[00:00.000 --> 00:13.400] Fewer discretion is advised. Your fave will be criticized. That's Jan. That's Chris. And this is CCTV, The Nonstop Pop Show. And it's time for the November 2023 K-Pop Pop Off.
[00:17.400 --> 00:29.920] Here on CCTV, Shannon and I have the inside scoop with extensive experience performing on stage and working at record labels. Join us in our in-depth conversations about global pop music on Patreon at patreon.com.
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[00:57.360 --> 01:13.560] Yeah, speaking of the socials, we put up polls on our socials at CCTV Pops and you voted for three of K-Pop's biggest releases of November 2023 to battle it out in our pop off segment where we would discuss and compare the songs, videos, performances and more.
[01:13.560 --> 01:26.280] So this month you voted for VV's maniac, dream catcher, OOTD and baby monsters, batter up. And just remember, this whole discussion is meant for pure fun. Please don't take it too seriously.
[01:26.280 --> 01:36.440] You should join us. Let us know what wins each category for you. Yes, so get ready to rumble round one.
[01:38.520 --> 01:47.400] All right, first of the ring is VV's with maniac. Player one done by Guillotun, Jack Brady, Jordan Roman,
[01:47.480 --> 01:57.160] Chloe Kopelov, Austin, Tim, a TMM, I hope it's Tim. And VV's consists of the three former members of the girl group, G-friend.
[01:57.160 --> 02:05.840] And this is the title track from the group's fourth EP. First off, so round one is about the song itself, so production, melody, the vocals, etc.
[02:06.400 --> 02:12.440] And so I was not a massive fan of G-friend. I kind of know like their biggest hits, but they were never like one of my fades, right?
[02:12.440 --> 02:20.040] So I will say, though, I was very happy to see these three come together. Those, you know, was it a few months ago now, maybe a year ago now?
[02:20.400 --> 02:28.680] No, I'm losing track of time. Yes, COVID. But, you know, them doing all this kind of after kind of the mess that was the G-friend break,
[02:29.760 --> 02:36.320] it does show that they do really want it, right? And they, and hopefully they do have more creative control in this new situation as well.
[02:37.320 --> 02:45.960] So, yeah, this song, I think, is all right, to be honest. I think I do enjoy how dreamy and kind of laid back.
[02:45.960 --> 02:52.960] It is. And with a song called Maniac, I did think it would be something a bit more high energy, actually.
[02:52.960 --> 03:00.520] No, more maniacs. Yeah, but I will say this was a pleasant surprise because I think it fits their voice to do something like this.
[03:00.520 --> 03:05.560] Like, none of them are extremely belty vocalists or anything like that.
[03:05.840 --> 03:09.160] So I'm doing something just a little more laid back, a little more breathy.
[03:09.160 --> 03:14.600] I think it does make sense for them. I think the melody is nice.
[03:14.600 --> 03:19.280] I think the chorus is pretty catchy. I do like the vocal slide a little moment in there.
[03:19.600 --> 03:27.320] That's probably my favorite part. But other than that, I will say it does fall slightly flat,
[03:27.320 --> 03:33.640] just because I think the production feels a little too bare and it's also like a little too quiet.
[03:33.640 --> 03:39.400] Like it's very far back. So even when it builds into in the bridge and the final chorus as well,
[03:39.400 --> 03:44.040] it feels like it doesn't like climax or get as full as I wanted to.
[03:44.360 --> 03:49.400] And there's like nothing going on, like production wise and like the first half of the song as well.
[03:49.880 --> 03:53.240] So I don't love that. Like this feels like an album track.
[03:53.240 --> 03:56.320] Like this doesn't feel title track worthy.
[03:57.960 --> 04:03.640] There's nothing about it that really like grabs my attention, is super memorable for me.
[04:03.640 --> 04:07.480] There's nothing about it that's like making me want to listen to it over and over again.
[04:07.480 --> 04:11.320] So yeah, what do you think? I think you're a bigger fan of G-friend than I was.
[04:12.200 --> 04:16.120] You know, Dude, you're valid. And yes, I did like them because Shinby caught my eye
[04:16.120 --> 04:19.800] because they compared her to Jessica of Sonnoshi there. And that's what we see.
[04:19.800 --> 04:23.800] Oh wow, she kind of looks like Jessica. So yeah, I kind of fell in. But then Shinby like proved herself.
[04:23.800 --> 04:28.840] She's really talented. She's my favorite in every iteration of whatever group she's in.
[04:28.840 --> 04:35.560] But yes, going back to what you were saying about like the song fitting their voices,
[04:35.560 --> 04:38.680] I could read. But here's the thing with them and K-pop and in general,
[04:38.680 --> 04:42.680] and like in general, people are still sitting in that disco era, like for girl groups.
[04:42.680 --> 04:45.800] I don't know what that is. Like it's like a safe space, you know?
[04:45.800 --> 04:50.360] And I'm at this point, it's been about three years. Yeah, almost going on four.
[04:50.440 --> 04:54.680] And I'm just a little over it. Like this is not a comment on the curls being bad singers,
[04:54.680 --> 05:00.040] the producers being terrible producers. It's just right now, this is just general statement.
[05:00.040 --> 05:07.000] And I'm just asking for some risk. Like a well-crafted musical risk. I don't want just like,
[05:07.000 --> 05:13.240] you know, you know, like there are songs that they've had like untie that they didn't perform
[05:13.240 --> 05:16.840] as a B-side. And then there's like, I think a weavers or universe song called
[05:16.840 --> 05:20.840] Vampon Palm. And it was giving me something a little bit more stronger, a little bit more
[05:20.840 --> 05:25.960] bolder. It wasn't just like disco-y because after Bop-Bop, they're debut and pull up,
[05:25.960 --> 05:30.280] which also sounds like disco, but different kinds of versions of disco or funky music.
[05:30.280 --> 05:35.880] I mean, that was a love aid, I think it's called. At this point, I don't need another funk or
[05:35.880 --> 05:41.000] disco lecture inspired track. Like the girls can handle dark and sassy, like they can do it and
[05:41.000 --> 05:44.440] their voices can fit in that really cool pocket where they can kind of sound like,
[05:45.080 --> 05:49.240] you know, untie has like this very fun little vogue kind of sound that they've even choreographing
[05:49.240 --> 05:55.080] to is been very like, tuddy and bogue moments and very femme. They can handle it. I will say
[05:55.080 --> 05:59.880] though, before people try to, you know, be like, you're haters. Let's highlight some faith things.
[05:59.880 --> 06:04.200] Like I like the electric guitar that comes through. It really gives like a potential for like,
[06:04.200 --> 06:07.720] it made me think, okay, this is going to go for a pop rock break or something. Something's going
[06:07.720 --> 06:12.600] to happen here. But nothing did. I like the second verse breakdown before it comes and goes like boom,
[06:13.400 --> 06:19.000] boom, and then the b comes back in. Ounji's breathiness and the pre-hook is very sultry.
[06:20.280 --> 06:25.720] Unha's voice and the second verse is really smooth. Like we listen to a lot of Kylie here on this show.
[06:25.720 --> 06:32.280] We do pop and k-pop from all over the world. And it kind of reminded me of that little breathiness
[06:32.280 --> 06:36.200] and a little bit, but it's in a comfortable part of her voice. Like she's like a trusser
[06:36.200 --> 06:40.760] pran, so she can handle the breathiness. And that's what I got from like, Unha in certain parts.
[06:41.480 --> 06:45.480] And I like Shin V's vocals because not just because she's right by it, but she's like the only,
[06:45.480 --> 06:51.640] not only, but the more deeper toned vocalist in the group. So it helps grounds the vocals a
[06:51.640 --> 06:56.040] little bit more so that when they do go a little bit higher, it's not just like stratosphere and
[06:56.040 --> 07:02.520] another galaxy, at least she tries to sing a little bit more strongly. And I can tell the
[07:02.520 --> 07:07.000] difference between who's singing at points. The lyrics are nothing too complicated. Like this
[07:07.080 --> 07:11.080] is a pure pop song about something being so wrong that it's right. And that's okay. Like it's
[07:11.080 --> 07:15.400] standard issue. Like nothing needs to have a lore. Not everything needs to have a lore and drama,
[07:15.400 --> 07:24.200] but I do wonder what would have happened had the song had the the the something that got
[07:24.200 --> 07:29.880] well, not me being flat. Any point is it's okay. There's no track. Yeah, right.
[07:30.520 --> 07:34.920] Yeah. No, that's interesting. I actually did also have a note that there weren't really any ad libs
[07:35.000 --> 07:40.120] or anything either. So it was relying on the production to kind of build it for them. But again,
[07:40.120 --> 07:44.920] I don't know them that well. So I was like, okay, like maybe like they just don't really do that,
[07:44.920 --> 07:50.280] you know, they can though. I was like, it's my nerves. Oh, okay. Interesting. They have capabilities.
[07:50.280 --> 07:59.080] Okay. All right. Well, moving on to player two. We have dream catcher with OOTD player two.
[07:59.880 --> 08:07.080] And this one was done by all under door, Maddox, pepperoni, and olive. And this is the title track
[08:07.080 --> 08:13.720] from their ninth mini album, villains, I think, or villain s s is capital. Y'all have no.
[08:17.080 --> 08:19.800] Go off. I'm like, you know, like super, like Sailor Moon, you know,
[08:19.800 --> 08:21.320] I was like, I don't know, villain s.
[08:24.760 --> 08:28.040] We are so eclectic here on the show. You love Sailor Moon. We love Sailor Moon.
[08:28.120 --> 08:32.440] Yes. I mean, shoot. I mean, behind me, if you're not watching this show, I have like a bunch of
[08:32.440 --> 08:41.400] Sailor Moon manga and a pop uncle. Anyway, um, beaking of just eclecticness and vocals and trauma.
[08:42.600 --> 08:47.640] You the last time we talked about dream catcher, we caught some poop. So you guys are not happy with
[08:47.640 --> 08:53.320] this. But you know what? We're grown adults. And you know what grown adults do? So I did.
[08:54.120 --> 09:00.280] Anyway, this was interesting because it was drama. And you have these vocalists who vocal,
[09:00.280 --> 09:07.160] who are very vocal. But I'm being so silly. But yeah, they're really interesting because we've
[09:07.160 --> 09:16.520] known them to be this dramatic, very dark, you know, gothic rock pop punk metal kind of situation.
[09:16.520 --> 09:22.440] And they've always had these very like deep or like sentimental feelings behind their songs.
[09:22.520 --> 09:27.320] And this one is very much like, no, no, no, no, we want to talk our ish. And I like that because
[09:27.320 --> 09:33.160] it's a new direction for them. And I love when a group is able to do a conceptual or lyrical,
[09:33.160 --> 09:39.240] like, change up without losing their sound. It's not difficult to do. But yet it happens quite a bit.
[09:39.240 --> 09:43.640] Like, for example, like a group that I really like is weekly and they went from having this really
[09:43.640 --> 09:49.320] bright and cohesive sound to now doing this girl crushy kind of thing. I'm like, guys, you were
[09:49.320 --> 09:55.640] killing what you were doing. So shout out to the producers, the A&R, whoever, like, decided to
[09:55.640 --> 10:02.520] like, you know, put the song together, they kept the sound still rockish and consistent with the
[10:02.520 --> 10:06.200] group. So it's not like too jarring. Like, I'm not like, we're like huge, huge fans. Yeah,
[10:06.200 --> 10:09.480] because I still don't remember the fandom name. Like, they definitely try to cloud us in the
[10:09.480 --> 10:16.680] comments. But I don't remember the fandom name, but the fandom name is insomnia.
[10:16.680 --> 10:21.320] Thank you. Okay. So they just love the capital S. Yes. Okay. All right.
[10:21.320 --> 10:25.560] That's a big thing. Okay. Sorry, insomnia, like, no offense, but like, we listen to a lot of music.
[10:27.000 --> 10:33.480] But yeah, anyway, I think insomnia could appreciate it for its sonic cohesiveness,
[10:34.200 --> 10:38.440] but also be welcomed to the new lyrical content. Because for a while, they're just thinking about
[10:38.440 --> 10:42.680] save the earth and my heart belongs to you and blah, blah, blah. And now it's like, oh, yeah,
[10:43.320 --> 10:47.960] the sassy and they have the sonics and the vocals to really handle the message really well. Like,
[10:47.960 --> 10:52.680] it's new metal. And someone here on YouTube, by the name of killed here mentioned that the
[10:52.680 --> 10:57.080] baseline is like, almost like corn. And I used to listen to a lot of rock music. I can kind of
[10:57.080 --> 11:01.480] hear like Travis Barker's like drum, like, you know, he starts drumming in the beginning,
[11:01.480 --> 11:05.880] you can kind of hear it there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like, there's a lot of awesomeness. Like,
[11:05.880 --> 11:08.840] I would love to hear we're gonna saw yama team up with them because like,
[11:09.720 --> 11:15.080] that would totally work. Yes. You know, like she on kicking it off from the first verse.
[11:15.720 --> 11:19.320] Absolutely amazing. Cause she's she has a very punchy vocal, but she's also a high,
[11:19.320 --> 11:24.360] very high soprano. Like, this is a specific type of soprano she is. And she's, I don't know what
[11:24.360 --> 11:28.200] it's called. Is that lyrical soprano? But anyway, she's very high. She's very punchy,
[11:28.200 --> 11:33.160] but it fit there, you know, and as the production kept going, you get the individual members coming
[11:33.160 --> 11:37.640] through and they sound full, but smooth. Someone who really stood out to me was handle. I think
[11:37.720 --> 11:43.720] it was she comes in the pre and she has a deep voice. And I'm like, oh, you guys know how to use
[11:43.720 --> 11:48.920] what you have in this group. And I'm not sure if the producers and the songwriters just new dream
[11:48.920 --> 11:53.560] catcher already, but it feels like the song was written with them in mind. And not just like,
[11:53.560 --> 11:58.680] hey, we had a demo for like Espa, for example, who could fit this concept as well. And we slammed
[11:58.680 --> 12:04.680] it this way. Um, Tommy, the rapper in the second verse, absolute moment because they blocked the
[12:04.760 --> 12:08.600] curse out, but I know it's going to go off. Like, when it goes live, when they come to America,
[12:08.600 --> 12:12.600] she's going to say the effort. Like I'm, she's going to say it. And it just makes the song come
[12:12.600 --> 12:18.440] across even more like, uh, assertive. Cause she's like, I thought my way, like, Oh my God, it's so
[12:18.440 --> 12:24.440] cool. Um, and I think production wise, it does switch up and not too much where it's like, what the
[12:24.440 --> 12:31.000] heck is happening? Uh, I think the second, like re hook is one of my favorite, because it
[12:31.000 --> 12:35.080] ups the ante a lot. So when the bridge comes around with all that electro production, it just
[12:35.080 --> 12:40.040] feels really chilling. You know, there are repeating the same old, like, Oh, TD hookish kind of thing,
[12:40.040 --> 12:47.800] tagline. I definitely appreciate the whole picture of the song. It's solid. Yeah. Yeah. I, so I do
[12:47.800 --> 12:52.840] really like dream catcher actually, especially their earlier stuff. Like I do think, and I will
[12:52.840 --> 12:58.200] stick with what I said. I think the last time is that their last few convex just felt a little stale.
[12:58.200 --> 13:01.880] Like it was kind of like there was nothing new. They just felt a little reductive for what they
[13:01.880 --> 13:07.960] had done before. Yeah. A little bit. And so this was great. It was really nice. I agree with you
[13:07.960 --> 13:13.240] completely with what you're saying at the start about how it's different for them for sure,
[13:13.240 --> 13:18.280] but because they kept those rock elements there and their voices are quite recognizable and their
[13:18.280 --> 13:23.880] vocal dynamic is quite recognizable. So it still sounds like them. So this is like great artistic
[13:23.880 --> 13:31.320] growth. And I love that for them, for sure. Also side note, but I was at a K pop store recently,
[13:31.320 --> 13:35.960] and I saw their light stick in person and how it's like in a coffin and everything. And it's so cool.
[13:35.960 --> 13:41.000] Are we together? Were we? Yeah, in Jersey, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
[13:41.000 --> 13:47.080] Yeah. Love that. Love that. It's so cool. It stood out so much too. Like in the whole lineup of
[13:47.080 --> 13:53.000] light sticks was great. Anyway, back to the song. The first time I heard it, I think I just didn't
[13:53.000 --> 13:57.160] really know where it was going. So I was kind of like, this is like a kind of a lot going on.
[13:57.160 --> 14:01.240] But then it has grown on me quite a lot. So I listened to it obviously quite a few times after
[14:01.240 --> 14:07.320] that. And it's grown on me a lot every time. And I pick out new elements each time too,
[14:07.320 --> 14:12.520] because there is a lot going on, but it's not like noisy. Whoever produced it did a really
[14:12.520 --> 14:18.120] great job making sure of that. Because there is, yeah, there is a lot going on like their vocal
[14:18.200 --> 14:23.240] effects all over it. Like the first has a vocoder. And then this part has harmonies. And then this
[14:23.240 --> 14:29.160] was just a lot. But again, I think because the structure of the song at least isn't crazy,
[14:29.160 --> 14:32.760] yeah, you kind of know at least structurally where it's going that they are able to kind of
[14:32.760 --> 14:37.480] throw a lot at all the different elements. So yeah, whoever produced it, of those names that we said,
[14:39.000 --> 14:44.120] amazing, amazing job. And you met, you mentioned the drums, like, obviously, I played the drums
[14:44.120 --> 14:49.080] I try to practice every week. And I would love to learn this. I added this to my list. Like,
[14:49.080 --> 14:55.160] this is so cool. This has like so much going on in it. Super, super dynamic. So yeah, I wonder
[14:55.160 --> 14:59.320] if there's live band version yet. You know what? Honestly, listen, y'all, even the comments, if
[14:59.320 --> 15:05.400] you want Chris to do it, we'll make it a patreon exclusive. Oh God. Pressure. Yeah, let us know,
[15:05.400 --> 15:11.880] let us know for sure. All right. Speaking of pressure, this next group had a lot of pressure
[15:11.880 --> 15:17.880] put on them. And let's see, they lived up to it. Player three is a baby monster with batter up.
[15:17.880 --> 15:26.680] Player three. This was done by DP Chaz Myshan, YG Jared Lee, Asa, a baby monster,
[15:26.680 --> 15:34.920] Chwe Hyun Tse, Lee Chan, where the noise and big tone and baby monster is YG's hotly anticipated
[15:34.920 --> 15:40.200] new girl group. And this is their first digital single released on a random Sunday without any kind
[15:40.200 --> 15:45.880] of showcase or press. Right. Which is why I wanted to ask like, so this isn't their official debut,
[15:45.880 --> 15:52.280] right? Like this is just giving no. It's giving just like pre-release buzz moment. Yeah. And I'm hoping
[15:52.280 --> 15:59.000] that is so because the song is very underwhelming. I'm very sorry to everyone, although for what I've
[15:59.000 --> 16:04.760] seen on Twitter and everything or X or whatever. Yeah, people seem to agree with me. I think for
[16:04.760 --> 16:14.440] the most part, and I'm curious if you do too. Oh, but you know, YG, it's it's been a struggle,
[16:14.440 --> 16:22.840] you know, like even when obviously their golden era is still the 21 Big Bang era, which is now
[16:23.720 --> 16:29.240] a long time ago, and even when Blackpaint came out, let's not even talk about that this time.
[16:29.240 --> 16:33.800] Okay. That's for another episode. But Blackpaint, obviously when they came out, we were all like,
[16:33.800 --> 16:39.320] okay, these are clearly 21 rejects, right? Then treasure came out and there was a lot of buzz and
[16:39.320 --> 16:45.400] it was kind of like, okay, but like they didn't really hit it big. And then they kind of disappeared
[16:45.400 --> 16:51.960] and I don't even know what's going on with them. Or babies. But this song sounds exactly like,
[16:52.680 --> 17:01.640] if you told an AI based on YG's previous songs to make a song that would sound like it came from YG,
[17:02.200 --> 17:06.840] this would literally be it. Like it's so reductive. It feels like
[17:08.120 --> 17:12.040] someone listened to a bunch of treasure and Blackpaint songs and then this is what they came up with.
[17:12.600 --> 17:19.880] Oh, no. So production wise, again, it's quite bare. Like it's got a very standard trap beat.
[17:20.520 --> 17:25.080] There's like the fake keyboard horns, like little Cynthia moments, but there's something about it
[17:25.080 --> 17:32.520] that sounds very like tinny, like it's not full at all. Yeah, it's very just kind of,
[17:32.520 --> 17:37.240] I don't know. I don't want to say weak because it's not really weak, but like it is lacking energy.
[17:37.240 --> 17:43.960] Underdeveloped. Yeah. Yeah, let's use that. And there's just not much like dynamic going on.
[17:43.960 --> 17:49.080] Like there's not like left and rights and like, you know, there's not like a lot going on just like
[17:49.080 --> 17:55.240] sonically at all. Yeah. Structurally, again, just like what you expect from YG, like you get
[17:55.240 --> 18:00.600] really sassy versus you get, you get a second versus like a full rap, then you get the more like
[18:00.600 --> 18:06.440] ethereal, dreamy, pre-chorus. And then you get the outro that stupid, high energy outro that now
[18:06.440 --> 18:13.400] like so many, I feel like after big bang came out. Yeah. And then like so many Blackpaint songs
[18:13.400 --> 18:17.320] have that same structure, so many treasures songs have that same structure. And like, yeah,
[18:17.320 --> 18:22.360] the outro is fun. Like don't get me wrong, but still it just feels so like, of course,
[18:22.360 --> 18:27.160] this is what happened. Of course, this is how the song ends. And the and the actual chorus is so
[18:27.160 --> 18:33.880] underwhelming. Oh my god. You know, oh, I don't know. I'm so clearly, I'm sorry to be so negative
[18:33.880 --> 18:40.280] about it, but it's just so there's just nothing innovative about this at all. Like this is such a
[18:40.280 --> 18:46.680] bad lunch for a brand new girl group to me. I will say, vocally though, I do think the members
[18:46.680 --> 18:52.680] execute it very well. Some really good moments in terms of just like how much they're emoting,
[18:53.880 --> 19:00.200] some good choices made, just in terms of some vocal dynamics and things like that. I will say the
[19:00.200 --> 19:06.120] unison outro does sound a tad weak. I don't know, like it's not as like chanting and like
[19:06.120 --> 19:09.240] shouty as maybe I want it to be. It's it just sounds a little too like,
[19:10.040 --> 19:16.200] I know what you mean. I want it to be more like shouty. Yeah.
[19:17.640 --> 19:26.040] So yes, I I I just hope this isn't their like proper debut. It doesn't feel like it is if there's
[19:26.040 --> 19:33.160] not even performing on anything or whatever. So yeah, just a underwhelming start though to their career
[19:33.160 --> 19:38.600] to me. Oh, okay. Well, you know, insiders from YGFC that the company lacks an artistic director,
[19:38.600 --> 19:45.720] which is obvious. And this was made. This song was the brainchild of the former CEO's creative
[19:45.720 --> 19:49.480] vision right before his six months, Jill Stint. I thought I was going to make that very clear.
[19:49.480 --> 19:55.320] But yeah, I'm sorry. Oh, I shouldn't lie. Yes.
[19:58.680 --> 20:03.160] I'm saying this. I'm serving the tea this way because I need people to understand that everything
[20:03.240 --> 20:11.080] about this was giving rushed for something out. Black things about to leave the company. You know,
[20:11.080 --> 20:14.520] I'm saying like it was just not one girl just left the group. We don't know if she's actually
[20:14.520 --> 20:17.320] coming back or not. We want to tell people the truth because you might drop socks, you know,
[20:17.320 --> 20:22.120] it was giving that not my business. But anyway, with all the names on the production,
[20:22.760 --> 20:28.360] all these names, we didn't see the usual suspects. No 24 no RT, no choice, no Teddy, no.
[20:28.600 --> 20:35.560] What's that man's name? I forget, there's a couple men who written with Black Mink.
[20:35.560 --> 20:41.160] But my point is no usual suspects, okay, names we've seen with YG to my knowledge.
[20:41.960 --> 20:46.120] And with even all his names on it, the song still sounds undercut.
[20:46.120 --> 20:49.960] I know how is that possible? Anyway, continue. I'm sorry. I know I'm like,
[20:50.440 --> 20:56.200] doing this. I'm very disappointed. Yeah. Especially me. I watched the show.
[20:56.840 --> 21:01.640] And this is where the YG formula needs to be revamped. Like absolutely needs to be revamped.
[21:01.640 --> 21:06.120] At this point, like you guys have the reputation to take the risks and the fact that the risk was
[21:06.120 --> 21:11.800] not taken is bothersome. And it kind of stinks because I guess they're at the behest of Mr. CEO
[21:11.800 --> 21:16.440] himself. Well, you know, as you can't really fight against that, he's paying your bill. He's writing
[21:16.440 --> 21:22.360] the checks. Like you said, the vocals are good. There are so many good vocalists that were on
[21:22.360 --> 21:26.440] this show. Like it sucks because they're being underutilized. Like Rami, the one who was singing
[21:26.440 --> 21:31.480] first, Wora, the one who sang second and Farita, the young lady who sang on the first verse,
[21:31.880 --> 21:37.000] they held it down. Absolutely. You could hear, you can hear them singing in their chest. There's
[21:37.000 --> 21:40.840] no strain to the law support. And I'm like, Oh, this is what I want. This is that attitude that I want.
[21:41.880 --> 21:45.960] But unfortunately, it's just kind of like when I first heard, I was excited to hear it. I was like,
[21:45.960 --> 21:51.320] Oh, yes, remember me give it to me. Give it to me. And then I got nothing. Nothing was given
[21:51.320 --> 21:58.840] except like this weird anti drop that goes better up. So to me, it's giving either of these people,
[21:58.840 --> 22:05.480] again, we're given a brief that states write it like this, or they were just like, Hey,
[22:07.000 --> 22:10.200] I don't know anything about why gee, let's listen to a couple of songs. Oh, this is easy. Let's just
[22:10.200 --> 22:14.120] do that. I don't know. I don't know what's the chicken or the egg is in the situation, but it
[22:14.120 --> 22:19.400] feels like it's a waste for the talent. And you know, I mentioned this to you before. I mentioned
[22:19.480 --> 22:23.960] this to you before in private, but I'm gonna say for the show, for a company that touts itself as
[22:23.960 --> 22:28.760] being an authority on hip hop and having so many influences in the genre in the culture, why is it
[22:28.760 --> 22:34.680] that they have yet to work with any black, brown producers or songwriters? They don't have to be
[22:34.680 --> 22:38.680] from America, you can be from the UK, they can be from Africa, they can be from any place that is
[22:38.680 --> 22:46.040] setting a trend that you guys always copy. But don't enlist to help, you know, not that it's a
[22:46.040 --> 22:50.040] necessity. But it's one of those things I will never understand, like even as Sandra, like we
[22:50.040 --> 22:55.240] love R&B, you know, what was in the room? People that look like me, brown people, black people from
[22:55.240 --> 23:02.760] all over, even Hyde is new jeans and song. It's a UK R&B songwriter. Like, you know what I'm saying,
[23:02.760 --> 23:07.480] it's just like, if you want to push the the envelope, is that the expression get pushed the envelope?
[23:07.480 --> 23:11.400] Yeah. Hello off of the envelope to someone else. And it just sucks because it's like,
[23:11.960 --> 23:16.200] it's not enhancing anything because you're using the same producers and not opening it up and it's
[23:16.200 --> 23:20.040] crazy because now it's like, where is Teddy? We need a Teddy something to happen here. He's at
[23:20.040 --> 23:24.040] the black label now. I know. And it sucks because even if they don't use black buyers, I don't care
[23:24.040 --> 23:30.600] about that at this point. It's YG's YG. 21 had Lydia Peck, black pink cat Becca Boone.
[23:32.440 --> 23:36.360] What do these girls have? They don't have a voice. They don't have a voice. And if this is the
[23:36.440 --> 23:42.680] pre-release, do the lipingy. And if this is the pre-release debut thingy, okay, fine. But I'm hoping
[23:42.680 --> 23:47.080] as they progress, they find a songwriter that understands that these girls can actually
[23:47.080 --> 23:54.360] sing their faces off and gives them actual, like, long term team of writer, like, hey, we're going
[23:54.360 --> 23:58.600] to make a sound for these girls. That's only for them. Because otherwise, they might be doomed to the
[23:58.600 --> 24:02.520] attic or the basement, wherever the YG keeps their kids. Yeah, wherever treasure is right now.
[24:03.000 --> 24:09.320] Oh, girl. They performed at the mama awards, though. So they did. Oh, wow. Yeah. I need to catch up.
[24:09.320 --> 24:12.440] I only saw I saw in hyphens performance. Anyway, we'll discuss the backwards.
[24:14.920 --> 24:20.680] Okay. So we're done with round one, the song. So what wins for you? Dreamcatro, O-T-D.
[24:21.720 --> 24:25.400] Same. No competition here. Yeah, I was about to think about it. I usually do.
[24:27.080 --> 24:32.120] Oh, man. Now we're on to round two, which is about the music video.
[24:33.480 --> 24:34.760] Round two.
[24:36.920 --> 24:38.920] That was starting off with the V-V's.
[24:38.920 --> 24:42.200] Maney, what do you think? This one is, they look so pretty.
[24:43.720 --> 24:49.000] As I said, Cindy's my bias, my gosh, and she looks like a rock star. So I'm so glad they
[24:49.000 --> 24:53.480] styled her like this for the scene. I love when I was pink hair. She looked like pretty.
[24:53.480 --> 24:59.160] And then Angie, she looks cute. They look all nice. But that being said, they have always looked
[24:59.240 --> 25:03.560] really cute and really nice and really pretty. All the videos, I think Bobbop, they look the best.
[25:03.560 --> 25:07.720] I will say that because they, they ate and Bobbop pull up. Okay. But this one, again,
[25:07.720 --> 25:12.200] it's another standard issue kind of like pretty girl group playing. It's say that.
[25:13.400 --> 25:18.520] Yeah. Oh, I saw like throw the potential. Come on, guys. I will say though, like the whole
[25:18.520 --> 25:22.360] storyline of the video I was trying to figure out, and it seems like they're looking for love,
[25:22.360 --> 25:26.120] hitchhiking, stopping at the gas station. Like they're all just trying to leave their
[25:26.120 --> 25:32.600] Monday lives behind to find love. Whatever this manic manic, wow, whatever this manic love is,
[25:32.600 --> 25:37.640] they're looking for it. Even in one of the scenes, there's a sign that says Enoramas,
[25:37.640 --> 25:44.280] a Enobene switch means we do not know, and we will not know in Latin. So they're looking,
[25:44.280 --> 25:47.800] looking around like this, they're in front of the sign that's like pointing this way in that way.
[25:47.800 --> 25:52.120] So they're looking for love in order to find it. And at the end, it was a little confusing
[25:52.120 --> 25:54.840] because I was like, what in the world, why they taking pictures in this photo booth?
[25:54.920 --> 25:59.240] But I'm guessing like they found love in each other. And their friendship is giving very much
[25:59.240 --> 26:05.000] to their own, okay. Oh, listen, they listen, they're a girl group that could possibly lose
[26:05.560 --> 26:07.960] everything if they get boyfriends. You know, so it's like, you can't even
[26:11.320 --> 26:17.080] teasing, but I'm not. Sorry, sorry to Mr. Rise, man. The kid from Rise, poor thing. Anyway,
[26:17.960 --> 26:23.160] my favorite scene is the hotel performance shot, like the hotel sign performance shot because they're
[26:23.160 --> 26:28.440] in that dark street without neon signs. The camera work for those scenes are so good because
[26:28.440 --> 26:33.320] they're like a lot of like formations and like P-Lobs. And oh my God, it looks so
[26:33.320 --> 26:37.480] sulturines smooth because of the editing and whatnot. So I appreciate that. But aside from that,
[26:37.480 --> 26:42.680] this video does nothing for me that made me go, wow, I need to watch it again. So yeah.
[26:43.480 --> 26:48.760] So yes, I unfortunately agree with you. Again, though, I don't even know their names, right?
[26:48.760 --> 26:53.480] So I'm like coming in just like very kind of just as a casual listener.
[26:55.640 --> 27:01.880] I will say I was a little underwhelmed by their performance in general because I feel like,
[27:01.880 --> 27:06.040] I know they're like an older girl group. They have a lot of experience on stage. They have a lot of
[27:06.040 --> 27:13.560] experience doing music videos. So I just expected a bit more life. You know, it was giving very
[27:13.640 --> 27:17.640] much like what you said, like, oh, we're really pretty. And it's like, don't move your face too
[27:17.640 --> 27:23.160] much. Like you can't pull too many faces because then that will take away from the pretty. I think
[27:23.160 --> 27:27.880] Umji, right? Umji? Yeah, she was definitely giving the most of the three, I would say, like,
[27:27.880 --> 27:30.920] especially in the performance shots, like she was doing her best to kind of, you know, give some
[27:30.920 --> 27:37.000] smiles, give some spirk, give some something. But the other two, you know, it's very like model
[27:37.960 --> 27:43.560] length. Yeah. And you know, maybe that's what the director wanted. But like, I just find it very
[27:43.560 --> 27:49.240] hard to pay attention when, when, I don't know, when it's like that. So okay. Yeah, it makes sense
[27:49.240 --> 27:52.840] as valid. I do agree. I think some of the scenes are really nice in this. Like, I like the like
[27:52.840 --> 27:57.720] little hitchhiking moment, like a little outdoor. I don't think they were really outdoor, but like
[27:57.720 --> 28:02.760] those shots with like the flowers and stuff like that. Yeah. And I'd like the lighting as well. I
[28:02.840 --> 28:07.960] actually disagree with you on the dancing on the road with the sign. I do think the actual video
[28:07.960 --> 28:13.080] shots are really cool. But the set looked that did not look like a real road. And that sign just
[28:13.080 --> 28:19.240] looked so like alone. It was, I don't know. It was bare for sure. I didn't like a sky or something.
[28:19.240 --> 28:23.400] You know what I mean? Like you could just tell. They were like not actually outside. I don't know.
[28:23.960 --> 28:31.080] It just it just was giving very a little cheap to me. Um, so yeah, it was fine. It did nothing to
[28:31.080 --> 28:35.400] make me like the song more. It did nothing to make me want to listen to the group more. I look
[28:35.400 --> 28:40.120] more into the group. So, um, yeah, just a tad underwhelming for me.
[28:40.120 --> 28:44.760] Well, it fell in valid. All right. Um, that's we have dream casual with O. T. D.
[28:45.800 --> 28:53.640] Yes video is, um, it's a lot going on. This was fun to watch. So this was this was very,
[28:54.280 --> 29:00.840] uh, refreshing after the last one. Um, yeah. First up, the whole computer screen based on
[29:00.840 --> 29:04.600] all the Photoshop and all that. Like even just the way they set it up in the very beginning,
[29:04.600 --> 29:10.440] it really did a great job prepping you for what was about to happen. Yeah. And it wasn't like some
[29:10.440 --> 29:14.200] of those other kpop videos where it's like, that's only the concept for like the first first. So
[29:14.200 --> 29:19.400] actually, you know, kind of the whole thing. And so yes, there was a lot going on, but they did a
[29:19.400 --> 29:23.480] good job with that concept because that just ties everything together. So then it's not like,
[29:23.480 --> 29:27.560] there's no questioning why they're in these random places because it's like, yeah,
[29:27.640 --> 29:33.480] this is all just kind of like part of this like idea, this like kind of larger photoshoot situation.
[29:33.480 --> 29:39.960] That's absolutely. Yes. Um, yeah. And I loved how, uh, they were all kind of,
[29:39.960 --> 29:44.280] the more kind of feminine side on the individual shots, but then the group shots was like the
[29:44.280 --> 29:48.280] baseball cap and like that, you know, they all looked like a little cooler, I think. So I like
[29:48.280 --> 29:54.840] the little juxtaposition there. Um, then yeah, I think unlike the last one, sorry, but
[29:55.240 --> 30:01.080] unlike the last one, there, there's a lot of rewatchability here because there's
[30:01.080 --> 30:05.800] words that flash by that you want to pause and read. There's like little things happening
[30:05.800 --> 30:10.200] like on the sides and each of the solo scenes, there's different, you know, ladies to watch it
[30:10.200 --> 30:16.040] in different parts of it. Um, then there's like a weird teaser at the end, you know, too. So like,
[30:16.840 --> 30:21.960] yeah, I think the whole thing was done super well, just a lot going on, but it all kind of had a
[30:22.040 --> 30:28.920] really cohesive concept. So it worked. It worked for sure. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I think the, um,
[30:29.880 --> 30:35.720] I said, yeah, no. Yeah. I agree. I know. I said, yeah, no too. It's only, that's weird. That's like
[30:35.720 --> 30:40.360] a thing people do. It's not just that. Oh, you're right. We should stop. That's probably not good.
[30:40.360 --> 30:48.120] Say I love this show. Um, so he had the video is really fun. Um, I agree with you in that sense.
[30:48.200 --> 30:51.960] And I like the combo of the digital and the real world. So from what I gathered,
[30:52.760 --> 30:58.120] like what you said, the setup leads you into like, was it the, the dream catcher, like the digital
[30:58.120 --> 31:04.440] world? I mean, with the whole AI AR VR, all this other mess going on. It fits in very, it's very
[31:04.440 --> 31:09.160] trendy. Um, and also fits in what they're about. They're kind of talking about like new worlds and
[31:09.160 --> 31:13.400] such and we've always been kind of about that business. So it's nice to see them kind of dive
[31:13.400 --> 31:19.080] into the digital one instead of using like the spinal fantasy esque, like of landscape.
[31:19.800 --> 31:25.480] Love those videos, but it's just really funny. Any little doodle. Um, I think that whole thing
[31:25.480 --> 31:29.720] was like a simulation and someone was watching the girls going to VR because at the end,
[31:31.720 --> 31:36.760] like someone collapses, you can see their hands in the shot. Like the, like the avatar kind of
[31:36.760 --> 31:42.520] goes over and then it goes like, Hey, we want to take this journey. Um, but I kind of just like
[31:42.520 --> 31:47.320] spark noted the video really quickly. But I just like the idea of it. Um, I like the styling too,
[31:47.320 --> 31:53.800] like the motocross, like F one racer jackets. Like everyone is into that now. It's on the rise.
[31:53.800 --> 31:59.240] And I like that the trend is being followed stylistically, but not being relied on. It just adds edge,
[31:59.240 --> 32:04.520] not motorcycle, the whole video. Like the whole thing was about OOTD, right? So they had trendy
[32:04.520 --> 32:10.440] outfits. They had concepts like the Barbie box. They had like, you know, um, Han Han. Oh my God,
[32:10.440 --> 32:14.440] woman's name. I'm going to call her Han for now. Um, the young lady who seems to pre-hook,
[32:14.440 --> 32:17.400] who's wearing her pink dress, looking very Barbie-esque. But then you have like the edgy
[32:17.400 --> 32:23.560] or shots with C on and like Sua and, and it's just, it's a good balance of being like bad ass and then
[32:23.560 --> 32:27.400] being pink, you know, pretty and punk, if you will. I think I've said this before about this
[32:27.400 --> 32:31.320] group, maybe not, but it's very pretty and punk. Um, and I think one of my favorite,
[32:31.320 --> 32:34.520] I keep saying my favorite scenes, I don't mean like, oh my God, it's the best one,
[32:34.520 --> 32:38.840] but one of the scenes that I like that still tied into the theme of the video.
[32:39.560 --> 32:43.080] Um, I don't know what K-pop's doing, but they're into this whole like, excuse me,
[32:43.640 --> 32:48.920] they're into this whole like green screen with the, um, I forgot what that little black and white
[32:49.560 --> 32:56.920] like target looking thing is and it's like a visual effect. Inmix has had it. Um, after like,
[32:56.920 --> 33:02.040] you see the video, it almost looks like it's behind the scenes before after effect, you know,
[33:02.040 --> 33:07.320] that kind of thing. So they juxtapose that green screen with the girls dancing in the
[33:07.400 --> 33:14.280] baseball cap and performance scenes. And there is a crown being coded and rendered. And I love that.
[33:14.280 --> 33:18.920] The crowd does not look its best, but considering that's a virtual world and we're just going,
[33:18.920 --> 33:22.760] we're diving into it, it makes sense. Cause it's like, it's not particularly special,
[33:22.760 --> 33:27.000] but it ties in with the concept where they're saying we're awesome. We're going to manifest it
[33:27.000 --> 33:31.400] and we invite you to join them. Uh, and we invite you to join us in this like new state of
[33:31.400 --> 33:34.920] confidence. And that's what I liked about it. Cause you're like, do you want to take the journey,
[33:34.920 --> 33:38.120] but they're all like, we're using their hand out while the crown's over there. I'm like, yes,
[33:38.120 --> 33:44.920] I like this cohesive. Hmm. Also, I do believe this is part one of a two part story. Yes. So the
[33:44.920 --> 33:50.360] crown, I'm sure will show back up in the next one. I'm excited for that. Even the B side arm was a
[33:50.360 --> 33:55.080] shatter. Ooh, it oozes and it sounds kind of shmexy. And I like that. And I like that for
[33:55.080 --> 33:58.920] them. Cause they're grown women and you can make rock music and be shmexy. You don't have to be
[33:58.920 --> 34:04.520] all dramatic and like, oh my God, I'm angsty. I'm so numb. You can actually like be like, I'm
[34:04.520 --> 34:11.080] a woman and I'm awesome. You know, so I like that. Um, yeah, that's another that one. I like this one.
[34:11.720 --> 34:18.600] Yeah. All right. So player three, we have baby monster batter up. So did the video
[34:19.640 --> 34:26.440] fare better for you? Where did you say like the batter up? I guess. I mean, clearly, I'm over
[34:26.520 --> 34:32.840] the song. Sorry, guys. You know, maybe the video helps you will find out what you think
[34:32.840 --> 34:36.840] too. Listen, I will always defend you. You never have to apologize. Cause at the end of the day,
[34:37.400 --> 34:43.640] for a comp, for an industry that expects perfection, we the bars high. The bars very high and puts
[34:43.640 --> 34:49.240] us so saturated. Like you got to stand out. Absolutely. Um, so yes, I will defend you to
[34:49.240 --> 34:54.280] the dying day. Anyway, so this is a very typical YG with a little bit of four minute,
[34:54.360 --> 35:00.920] like crazy for me. Um, I was like, wow, this looks like almost like second gen. Um, but mostly YG,
[35:00.920 --> 35:06.040] but I won't state the obvious so much just to crap on the girls. Um, and the lack of artistic
[35:06.040 --> 35:09.720] vision, because again, yeah, it's man's in the server. You're right. You don't even need to say
[35:09.720 --> 35:16.200] that. Like, you know, it just is. Yeah. All be nice. So I enjoy the youthful imagery
[35:16.920 --> 35:21.960] in the song. I just wish that they would have like not made these girls look so like
[35:21.960 --> 35:28.040] editorial at moment. Cause they're not there yet. Black pink didn't start editorial.
[35:28.040 --> 35:35.720] They were wearing body suits, weird gloves, funky little patterns. And then they became Dior,
[35:36.520 --> 35:41.160] Chanel, Valentino girls. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't just like right out the gate.
[35:41.160 --> 35:47.560] We're wearing a couture dress contour. Uh, it was a contour dress, but a couture gown
[35:47.560 --> 35:51.320] over wearing like this abstract earpiece and certain scenes. Cause then it just comes across
[35:51.320 --> 35:56.680] as them wearing their older sister or their, their mothers, very fashionable mother mothers
[35:56.680 --> 36:02.120] clothes. You know what I'm saying? Um, so that was, that was my only gripe, like with the styling at
[36:02.120 --> 36:07.560] points. Um, aside from like the bright thing, I'm over it. Once again, YG does not give flying F,
[36:07.560 --> 36:12.280] but fans keep fighting the good fight me, myself, until they actually start employing
[36:12.920 --> 36:20.360] people for them. Anyway, one thing I really did like though was the like,
[36:20.360 --> 36:25.560] imagery of them being babies or baby monsters or like children, like her alms,
[36:25.560 --> 36:31.400] the school class president with her microphone, her megaphone. Um, and then you get Vora,
[36:31.400 --> 36:35.320] she's in front of a giant egg. I thought that was hilarious. I didn't realize what it was
[36:35.320 --> 36:39.720] until I looked at the video again. And I'm like, this is hilarious. She's in front of an egg.
[36:39.720 --> 36:43.480] And I forgot what toy does that. Where there's like an egg in the hand,
[36:43.480 --> 36:48.920] hang out, like you know, the egg, you know, I mean, at least it was a geodeg, you know? Yeah,
[36:48.920 --> 36:52.840] it was so cute. And then on the inside is like really sparkly and I wish they would have used
[36:52.840 --> 36:58.200] more of those scenes with her inside of the egg. But that's just me. And then you had for Rita
[36:58.200 --> 37:02.280] with that stinking gown and the chain, which I thought is she's she's too young for her.
[37:02.280 --> 37:07.080] It doesn't make her look like smexy. He just looks like it doesn't bit because she's a kid.
[37:07.080 --> 37:10.920] Uh-huh. But there's a cage behind her where it's ripped open. She has like these long nails and
[37:10.920 --> 37:15.800] it's like scar and I was like, oh, that's cute baby monster adorable after that. It just
[37:16.520 --> 37:22.840] goes right down. I think the second verse with the rappers cool, I didn't shot them out, but they
[37:22.840 --> 37:28.360] were cool. They were well written for the most part. But it's just a little bit like, oh,
[37:29.640 --> 37:34.760] it just locks his charm after a while because it just turns into glamour shots and alleys. And I
[37:34.760 --> 37:39.560] get that the rap sections were meant to kind of represent what the girls are saying in the rap.
[37:39.560 --> 37:44.440] Like Asa was saying, I'm a boss baby. So she's in the in the room. Like, but it was giving true
[37:44.440 --> 37:48.840] Jackson VP and she wasn't, she's not there yet. You know, what the visual wasn't there. And then
[37:48.840 --> 37:52.680] the other girl with the braids with the monster truckages. I feel like this video maybe could have
[37:52.680 --> 38:00.680] benefited from being actually outside or if not going outside, maybe just going leaning more for
[38:00.680 --> 38:05.640] like a baseball beam, like actually going for it. She's making a use. I won't be here for that,
[38:05.640 --> 38:09.400] actually. Yeah. You know, because I counted it like how many years ago, like almost six, seven years
[38:09.480 --> 38:13.080] ago now, so it won't be like a comparison too much because I counted it for um,
[38:13.880 --> 38:17.400] um, bounce. That song was kind of dry to you. I'm not gonna lie to you. That's always kind of
[38:17.400 --> 38:21.720] try to when it came out. But we were okay with the dryness at this point. Seven years later,
[38:21.720 --> 38:26.360] the dryness has to go. But anyway, baseball or even a play on words, it could have been like batter
[38:26.360 --> 38:30.920] up like chefs in the cook cooking in the kitchen and then like being like Girl Scouts,
[38:30.920 --> 38:36.360] serving whatever that they were cooking, you know, saying like, like taking the actual cookie
[38:36.360 --> 38:41.240] thing that, um, new Jean, new director was trying to say she's doing and actually doing it because
[38:41.240 --> 38:45.720] batter up is cute. Cause I was like, Oh, batter, huh? Something like anything which would have been a
[38:45.720 --> 38:52.200] little bit better than like little sister wearing big sister clothes. That's what I got from it. But
[38:52.200 --> 38:59.560] I don't know. It's okay. This video, I mean, yeah, like we said, nothing super newer innovators
[38:59.560 --> 39:05.240] about it. I agree. I think the more youthful scenes were also more interesting to me. Like I did
[39:05.240 --> 39:09.720] enjoy the little like back of the school bus moment and then like watching the walkers out to like
[39:09.720 --> 39:15.480] it's cute. Yeah, perform in the classroom and stuff. I enjoyed that scene a lot. Um, I will say,
[39:15.480 --> 39:21.320] I do think the members are performing the crap out of it for sure. Like they are executing really
[39:21.320 --> 39:27.240] well. I will say there's a lot of face pulling in the dance scenes for sure. Like it's the complete
[39:27.240 --> 39:31.640] opposite of the VV's one where it's like, they're just doing the absolute most and it's almost
[39:32.520 --> 39:35.720] almost too much. Cause it's like we're smiling that we're smirking then we're like winking that
[39:35.720 --> 39:40.760] we're like, okay. Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Like calm down a little bit and just feels a little overdone
[39:40.760 --> 39:45.160] and like not so genuine. You know, cause kind of they're just trying to play so much to the to the
[39:45.160 --> 39:50.360] camera that it's like, okay, like you can like let your natural charisma come out. You don't need
[39:50.360 --> 39:56.760] to be like doing this, you know? So, uh, yeah, I guess that's just a direction thing. Um,
[39:57.720 --> 40:03.480] but yeah, uh, I think some of the scenes were interesting. Like at least all the solo scenes were
[40:03.480 --> 40:07.880] completely different. So at least there was, you know, kind of something new to look at. I will say
[40:07.880 --> 40:15.320] the last scene where they're like in the, I don't know what that is, like the dungeon stage
[40:15.320 --> 40:21.480] thing, um, with all the extra dancers and the cheerleaders and stuff. Um, and they're wearing like
[40:21.560 --> 40:30.440] the blue fur and stuff. I thought, um, yeah, that was behind as the outro, but it didn't like,
[40:31.640 --> 40:35.320] I think because there was so much going on in kind of the first part of the video that that
[40:35.960 --> 40:40.760] switch up wasn't like enough to match like this climax that this outro is supposed to be,
[40:41.720 --> 40:47.880] you know, so it's just kind of like, okay. So, so yeah. Anyway, I'm sorry. I'm just like, I feel like
[40:47.960 --> 40:55.480] the song is just like so meh, like there's not much that can save it really. Like the video
[40:55.480 --> 41:02.760] hats have been amazing, amazing to like do anything. And unfortunately this was not. Um, so yeah. Uh,
[41:04.280 --> 41:09.960] yeah, we're at the end of this round. So clearly for me, again, the winner is Dreamcatcher.
[41:11.000 --> 41:17.400] Yeah, Dreamcatcher, it is. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So round three is the choreography
[41:17.400 --> 41:24.200] and performance round three. Yeah. Well, let's talk about it. It's a little hard.
[41:24.200 --> 41:28.360] So baby monster, amazingly, we don't even have a dance version of this music video. So soon.
[41:28.360 --> 41:32.760] Soon after we filmed this, which kind of thing. Okay. So yeah, we're filming. That's at the start
[41:32.760 --> 41:37.640] of December. So well, we're going off the video guys, but yeah, we'll get there because they're
[41:37.640 --> 41:42.360] player three. So let's start with player one. We're VV's maniac. What did you think of the
[41:42.440 --> 41:47.560] choreography? All right. You know, these girls are serving face and handpats throughout this
[41:47.560 --> 41:51.640] day. I thought it was, did you notice like in the first part of the day, I was like,
[41:51.640 --> 41:55.720] picky, picky, picky, look, picky for a lot of handography for sure. Yeah, it was a lot of
[41:55.720 --> 41:59.480] pitter pat. Like I'm so sorry for those who are listening. I'm just going to the point is,
[41:59.480 --> 42:04.920] there's a lot to continue pitter patting. Um, but you know what? Aside from like the face and
[42:04.920 --> 42:10.280] the hand padding of the teasing I'm doing, it's a lot. It's a lot. Like people don't realize how
[42:10.280 --> 42:14.520] many people do, but they don't realize how unnecessarily intricate girl group dances can be.
[42:15.240 --> 42:19.640] Like if your hands, your hands have to be quick. They have to be smooth. They make shapes left
[42:19.640 --> 42:25.000] and right. They have to like look pretty. They have to look like all at the same. They all have to
[42:25.000 --> 42:31.400] look uniform. Excuse me. And if you're off, folks will notice folks like us fans, those who aren't
[42:31.400 --> 42:36.200] fans will notice. Um, and I appreciate that a lot of pictures and shapes were used and created
[42:36.280 --> 42:41.160] by the background dancers, which makes me wish that the girls would have sung some of their
[42:41.160 --> 42:45.320] performances live. Like there wasn't enough performances like I was looking through from
[42:45.320 --> 42:48.280] me to be like, Oh, they're singing live here. And if they were the back track was so loud,
[42:48.280 --> 42:52.760] I can't really tell. And it's life does not count. It doesn't count. If they're not dancing,
[42:52.760 --> 42:56.120] they're just sitting there, singing and getting edited, which is fine. It happens. It is a
[42:56.120 --> 43:01.640] performance, whatever. I get it. But I really do wish with the ease of the dance mode. With
[43:01.640 --> 43:06.200] the ease of the dance motion and like just it being handography, you're trying to
[43:06.200 --> 43:10.680] listen moving that much, but you can't actually project and sing. So I'm just like, I wish they
[43:10.680 --> 43:15.640] would do it more because they can totally do it. They're capable of it. Um, I think as a dance,
[43:15.640 --> 43:21.800] I think the hip isolation is for the part has become like a moment in the kpop fandom because
[43:21.800 --> 43:30.120] the choreographer, um, the one who did, um, hard or shiny and, um, Beyonce's power, she choreographed
[43:30.120 --> 43:35.480] for them. And she did like, she kept on dongi. Oh, oh, so it became like a sound bite that
[43:35.480 --> 43:39.400] kpop fans are using. Wait, this is the hip isolation is like at the end. Yeah, the
[43:40.120 --> 43:45.160] I got you. Okay. Yeah. I like that part. Yeah. And it sucks. That's only at the end. Like,
[43:45.160 --> 43:49.160] why is that not the point dance? Because I don't remember the point dance. You know what I'm saying?
[43:49.160 --> 43:52.840] Like, what is the point dance? And then all of a sudden the booty moves is like, Oh, there we go.
[43:52.840 --> 43:57.080] The on dongi. That's it. That's why you remember. So I was like, kind of like a wasted
[43:57.080 --> 44:01.880] opportunity. That'd be like the main focus. And I get that you probably don't want to shake
[44:01.880 --> 44:06.360] your butt. But again, give them something. Give them something that stands out. Because the song
[44:06.360 --> 44:11.240] is just very like safe. That's what a necessary movement too. But it's cute. You know, I never
[44:11.240 --> 44:16.280] remember. Is it? Yeah. What about you? How do you feel about the performances and the dance,
[44:16.280 --> 44:22.200] the dance? Yeah. The performance is so much better than the video. I think, you know, I was
[44:22.280 --> 44:27.080] saying that like they were giving just like nothing really the video face wise and in all
[44:27.080 --> 44:31.480] the house though they are. So thank the Lord for that. Like this is where they really showed their
[44:32.120 --> 44:36.920] experience, you know, because it did feel very charismatic and very natural for the most part.
[44:37.640 --> 44:43.080] So yeah, very happy to see that. I did actually really enjoy the choreo again because with these
[44:43.080 --> 44:48.680] older girl groups, I like that they keep it a bit or simple because yeah, I do think some of the
[44:48.760 --> 44:52.680] really intricate hands and stuff that you were talking about that some of the girl groups do now,
[44:52.680 --> 44:59.080] it's a little much and it's it's like not necessary to be that intricate because the regular person
[44:59.080 --> 45:05.400] that's not a dancer, right, they won't notice that. You know, like there's really no point in
[45:05.400 --> 45:11.960] it being that difficult. Not all that. So I think this was the great level in terms of like how
[45:11.960 --> 45:17.160] advanced like how skillful it was. Like I think I think this was kind of perfect for the song.
[45:17.800 --> 45:22.360] You know, it's feminine, it's slinky, it matched the song well and I also put a note, I was like
[45:22.360 --> 45:27.960] they could sing this live with this choreography if they wanted to for sure. And yeah, I think the
[45:27.960 --> 45:32.440] general musicality is really good. I think the idea of having the six dancers did help a lot with
[45:32.440 --> 45:38.680] the little dynamics that they had going on. And yeah, I actually appreciated that the whole kind of
[45:38.680 --> 45:43.480] end of the song was completely different choreography because it just kept it interesting and it kind of
[45:43.560 --> 45:47.480] built the song to more of a climax than if you just listened to it because you know,
[45:47.480 --> 45:51.320] it's that earlier it was kind of like underwhelmed by it but actually performance wise. I do think
[45:51.320 --> 45:58.120] the build is there. Right. So yeah, I'm actually good with that. So yeah, I was actually quite
[45:58.120 --> 46:05.800] impressed with the performance. Reliance. Yeah. All right. So up next is Trian Catcher's OOTD's
[46:05.800 --> 46:11.880] choreography. All right. This one is interesting because we again, we insomnia try to comfort us
[46:11.880 --> 46:18.040] about the choreography being generic. And it was going to stand all business. Okay. It was very
[46:18.040 --> 46:26.280] generic back then. Yes, it was. And this one, I will say generic in terms of like nothing stood
[46:26.280 --> 46:31.160] out like even for OOTD. It kind of was just like a little pit pat on the body. Yeah, it was just okay,
[46:31.160 --> 46:40.520] whatever. But what stood out were the moments. Okay, listen, it was pretty basic in terms of what a
[46:40.520 --> 46:45.800] rural group needs to actually perform. But there were moments like Seon's kick in the beginning.
[46:46.360 --> 46:52.360] Lushion's kick in the beginning. It's fun. The floor work for the pre is interesting and the
[46:52.360 --> 46:58.200] formation changing and the them changing orientations from facing back front and like creating these
[46:58.200 --> 47:03.640] awesome pictures. If you're like a house of mirrors, the duet in the bridge section between the two
[47:03.640 --> 47:10.120] main and lead vocalists, those are the parts that really stand out. Man, the average watcher
[47:10.120 --> 47:16.280] of a K-pop video might be like, oh, it's really cool. But a lot of people kind of get drawn in by
[47:16.280 --> 47:22.440] the point dance. The OOTD point dance is not outstanding. Everything else around it builds really nicely.
[47:22.440 --> 47:30.760] And they are impressive in terms of serving like movement, vocals, and facials. And they perform
[47:30.760 --> 47:38.360] them, if not live every time, at least some, some is all. Yes. Because because the way the
[47:38.440 --> 47:42.760] company's girls like kind of figure out how to strategically tap out to get breath and come back
[47:42.760 --> 47:47.640] in, it's a lot. They've worked hard and it shows. So at this point, they have nothing to prove to us
[47:47.640 --> 47:53.640] to use anyone. But it does help to have those moments so that people can be like, oh my God,
[47:53.640 --> 47:57.880] who's that group? Oh my gosh, who did that kick? Oh my gosh, who's on the floor? You know what I'm
[47:57.880 --> 48:03.240] saying? Like, moments like that do help. But the OOTD dance itself did not stand out as a chorus
[48:03.240 --> 48:07.160] motion unless you saw something I could be wrong. I don't mind being wrong. But if you saw
[48:07.160 --> 48:11.720] something, please enlighten the crowd because I did it. Yeah, I agree. I don't know what the
[48:11.720 --> 48:16.760] point dance was either. And I kind of agree with you. To me, the moments were more kind of just
[48:16.760 --> 48:21.400] the non-symmetrical parts of it. I think that was where it was kind of interesting. Like,
[48:21.400 --> 48:25.480] I also thought of, you know, the two kind of being in the middle at one point. Then you had a
[48:25.480 --> 48:29.720] lot of like, you know, diagonals that were just like not symmetrical. So you'd have like three
[48:29.720 --> 48:33.880] come out on the right. And then the others were, you know, facing them. And it's just like little
[48:33.960 --> 48:37.480] things like that kept it very interesting. So they did take full advantage of the number of
[48:37.480 --> 48:42.840] members that they have. I do think overall choreography, I do think the musicality is there.
[48:42.840 --> 48:47.880] I do appreciate that it's like pretty hard hitting overall. Yeah. And there is a lot of like
[48:47.880 --> 48:54.760] armography and handography again. But I think it's done in a way that isn't too complicated either.
[48:55.560 --> 48:59.000] So yeah, I thought that was all done quite well. And like all the little different
[48:59.080 --> 49:02.520] information changes and things did keep it super interesting.
[49:03.480 --> 49:07.400] Yes. And yeah, I agree with you. I think they are great performers as well. Like you can feel
[49:07.400 --> 49:13.000] also like with VVs that, you know, they have a lot of experience. They don't need to try too hard,
[49:13.000 --> 49:18.200] you know, they can rely on their natural charisma and natural just performance ability and chemistry
[49:18.200 --> 49:23.000] together. So yeah, I'm really excited about this change for them because this definitely felt
[49:23.000 --> 49:29.080] more natural than than the last few songs. I think because I get that it's hard.
[49:29.080 --> 49:32.280] And I think this is what we said too, right? It is hard with these kind of like
[49:33.320 --> 49:38.440] medals inspired songs to come up with girl group choreography because like I also wouldn't know
[49:38.440 --> 49:44.760] what to do. Honestly, you know, some of those songs, I mean, I don't know how to like turn this into
[49:44.760 --> 49:50.680] Yeah, how do I like give this the musicality it needs? This type of song because it is kind of like
[49:50.680 --> 49:58.360] a girl question spired kind of like rock metal pop song, I guess. Yeah. So it's a little easier to
[49:58.360 --> 50:04.680] just kind of do like more typical kind of sassy girl group hard hitting moves and it works with
[50:04.680 --> 50:11.320] the song. So I do think it is easier to choreograph to the song in general. But yeah, I think the execution
[50:11.320 --> 50:17.800] was good for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. So for the net, the last round,
[50:18.360 --> 50:22.680] the last player for the final round is baby monster. This one's a little bit difficult to tell.
[50:22.680 --> 50:30.360] There is no performance video. Yes, as a recording. Yes. Yeah, sorry, all. Yeah, there is choreography
[50:30.360 --> 50:35.720] throughout the video. So we will try to make statements based on that. So I'm like, yeah, don't
[50:35.720 --> 50:41.800] start that. Or do leave in the comments. Yeah, if you want us to react to the performance video,
[50:41.800 --> 50:48.440] let us know. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So I still think it's super sus that
[50:48.440 --> 50:52.200] there's no but press day performance stuff. But like you said, it made possibly just be like a
[50:52.840 --> 50:58.360] Hey, guys, I don't think it's an official debut. Yeah, it doesn't I don't feel the buzz. Can you
[50:58.360 --> 51:02.840] imagine if this was like really like, Hey, well, we got in and suddenly then the debut song is like
[51:02.840 --> 51:09.880] the just magnificent, like, Hey, I'm already here for that. Absolutely. I'd be crazy. But y'all did
[51:09.960 --> 51:14.280] all that just to okay, he planned. He's playing. I was almost out the door. Maybe they were
[51:14.280 --> 51:18.120] contractually obligated to release this song. And so they were just like, let's just get it out
[51:18.120 --> 51:21.880] over with. But that that that makes even less sense. Maybe actually, I don't know. Continue.
[51:21.880 --> 51:28.280] Okay, not a speculating any hoodle. Um, by the time the video comes out, uh, hopefully we don't
[51:28.280 --> 51:35.560] sound too dated. But I think overall, the choreography is okay. These girls dance better than what was
[51:35.640 --> 51:39.960] given to them. And I'm not sure we choreograph it. I'm not sure. Maybe it was Y G X who did it.
[51:41.000 --> 51:44.760] Honestly, it probably was Y G X. It looks like Y G X. I'm not sure who and Y G X did it.
[51:44.760 --> 51:50.120] But I mean, I don't blend a choreographer's or the producers at this point in time. I blame no one,
[51:50.120 --> 51:58.840] except the man who's doing a stint, um, in the pokey because there is a lackluster quality to
[51:58.840 --> 52:02.520] the choreography too. But there was not much to work with either, but they were told not to work with
[52:02.520 --> 52:07.320] much unless they weren't told and just decided not give them much. It's just like a whole like
[52:07.320 --> 52:11.720] cluster duck, you know, an orb or rose of just suckiness. Like I just don't know.
[52:11.720 --> 52:16.600] How do you mean by what do you mean by like too much? Like I said, it wasn't too much for them to
[52:16.600 --> 52:22.680] do like, because it's like better, better, better, better. Better, better, better.
[52:22.680 --> 52:31.320] Better, better. I feel like world's couldn't go. Oh, why? Okay, I will say I actually think the
[52:31.320 --> 52:37.160] musicality was okay. Like, it was okay. That's it. No, no, I think it's better than maybe what
[52:37.160 --> 52:41.080] you think. I think it was better than maybe what you were saying. No, no, I'm saying like they
[52:41.080 --> 52:46.040] couldn't do anything else. But what was given to them, like they had horns to work with in
[52:46.040 --> 52:50.680] drums and all they could do was just like, you know, some like, for like some cute little stuff
[52:50.680 --> 52:54.280] here and there, but nothing that showed that these girls could dance as hard as they were
[52:54.280 --> 52:59.240] forced to dance on the show. They don't have to be out of like, they don't have to do that. I'm not
[52:59.240 --> 53:06.440] saying that. But what I'm saying is it's almost like they took the swagger of 21, but like the
[53:06.440 --> 53:12.280] choreography, like trying to like the choreography of like Blackpink or what they wanted Blackpink
[53:12.280 --> 53:17.880] to do and gave it to these girls. So it's like easy and simple, but they have to split perform it.
[53:17.880 --> 53:23.960] But it's like, it's like weird. It's like up-to-date choreography, but then like very basic like,
[53:24.920 --> 53:30.840] you know, level one hip hop. But then again, we haven't seen certain parts.
[53:30.840 --> 53:36.280] Okay, I wouldn't say level one hip hop. I would say like, you know, intermediate.
[53:36.280 --> 53:39.960] Not level one. Excuse me. That was a little rough. That was rough. I'll say intermediate.
[53:39.960 --> 53:42.440] So at level three. Yeah. I'm.
[53:42.440 --> 53:45.080] Bye, guys. Sorry. Okay. Yeah. I actually.
[53:46.360 --> 53:52.120] I didn't mind the choreography because I think because the chorus is so basic, you know,
[53:52.120 --> 53:59.000] like what you just saying. I think quite choreography wise, like it matches that.
[53:59.000 --> 54:01.080] It does. Like I said, it's just, I think it really is.
[54:01.080 --> 54:08.360] If they were doing something like way harder, whether that be either faster or just something
[54:08.360 --> 54:12.840] just more complicated or something like that, I feel like it just wouldn't match the song as well,
[54:12.840 --> 54:17.480] maybe. So I was actually okay with that. Not just the choreography. I'm just saying it just sucks that
[54:17.480 --> 54:21.560] they were given this song because someone asked them to give them this
[54:21.560 --> 54:26.120] song and then the choreographer was like, okay, well, that's what we got. And then this what they got.
[54:26.120 --> 54:28.120] But like, do you want to learn this dance?
[54:29.960 --> 54:32.440] No, but that's partly because I hate the song.
[54:34.840 --> 54:38.760] I'm trying to like separate. Yeah. I think what it is, is I'm trying to separate
[54:38.760 --> 54:44.280] my dislike of the song and just trying to look at it objectively. Like if I was given this song to
[54:44.360 --> 54:50.360] choreograph to. It's satisfactory. I think it's okay. Yeah, I think it, I think it works. I actually
[54:50.360 --> 54:55.080] do think it works. Yeah. And there are from what we can see in the video, there are a lot of interesting
[54:55.080 --> 54:59.720] pictures there. So I am excited to see you kind of the whole thing because I do think like maybe,
[54:59.720 --> 55:03.720] like in the pre-chorus of stuff, like there's nothing that's dance-wise that's happening in the video.
[55:03.720 --> 55:09.560] So I'm just curious kind of what they're doing on that. I will say the outro, the kind of like cheer
[55:09.560 --> 55:17.240] leader-y kind of inspiration, I guess. I think that is actually where I was a bit more underwhelmed.
[55:17.240 --> 55:23.640] I do think kind of, they repeat it. Yeah, I don't know. There was something about it that just wasn't
[55:23.640 --> 55:28.760] climaxing it the way that I wanted it to. So that was actually where I was like, oh, they probably
[55:28.760 --> 55:32.360] could have done something a bit more difficult there just to kind of again, that's just match
[55:32.360 --> 55:36.760] the energy of the song. But the actual like chorus, I think is fine. And at least the baseball
[55:36.760 --> 55:42.440] idea is like memorable. I will say that's more memorable than the than the playing dances from
[55:42.440 --> 55:48.200] the last two songs, you know. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So so there's that at least. Yeah. So yeah, I didn't
[55:48.760 --> 55:55.960] mind the choreo for the song. Mm-hmm. I guess. Yeah. But again, I just dislike the song so much that
[55:55.960 --> 56:00.680] it's like really hard for me to like look at it like fully objectively, but I'm trying. I mean,
[56:01.640 --> 56:07.400] I guess I just like from what I saw a scene on the show, making them that doesn't they went through
[56:07.400 --> 56:12.360] so much to get this choreography snapping this. I don't know. To be fair, you know, that is the life
[56:12.360 --> 56:18.440] of a dancer as well. We learned this crazy stuff in these classes, and they would go on stage and
[56:18.440 --> 56:24.440] we're like, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk. And it's like we went through
[56:24.440 --> 56:30.840] all of that to do that. Yeah. Yeah. This is very valid. But yeah, it's just one of those things
[56:30.840 --> 56:36.040] I was like, Oh, wow. Okay. All right. But again, it's just like the song so much where I'm like,
[56:36.040 --> 56:39.480] it's terrible. I was I have hope it's not because of the vocalist and the rap. I just think the
[56:39.480 --> 56:43.320] production is just a little bear. But again, like I said, it's just one of those things because
[56:43.320 --> 56:49.560] they were trapped. They were chained to the rhythm. They couldn't get out of it. So between all of
[56:49.640 --> 56:57.080] those things starting from the person who is now away, it's just it's just uninspired and dated.
[56:57.080 --> 57:01.320] That's what I wanted to say. It's uninspired and dated all of it as a whole now because of
[57:01.320 --> 57:05.160] yeah, one person's direction. So it's not bad, but it's just like
[57:06.920 --> 57:10.520] people who watch the show is like, what where is the there's more right? Like we're all like,
[57:11.080 --> 57:15.960] did you get to hear any demos or anything in the in the show? Like did they prefer? Okay.
[57:16.840 --> 57:22.920] And I know they usually do that on a show that they do. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. All right.
[57:23.960 --> 57:28.040] Okay. So that concludes round three. Yes. What wins for you?
[57:29.880 --> 57:33.960] That's tough because no offense to the VVs, but I don't remember the choreography.
[57:33.960 --> 57:43.160] Except the bar in the butt part. Oh, TD doesn't really didn't I didn't I'm not there for the dancing.
[57:43.160 --> 57:46.280] No offense. I'm not saying they're bad dancers, but I go back to that song because I'm just trying
[57:46.280 --> 57:50.680] to hear vocals over and over again. And that's like the production of it. So
[57:51.640 --> 57:54.120] even though people maybe people might think, Oh, I should just crapping on them. I'm not
[57:54.120 --> 57:57.960] crapping on them. I'm just saying is what they were giving us is like, dang it. I want more.
[57:57.960 --> 58:01.880] I'm going to give it up to baby monster because at least I knew what the choreographer was.
[58:01.880 --> 58:05.960] I know the I know the dance. I know it. I know it. You know I'm saying like,
[58:05.960 --> 58:11.560] and the kids the kids do what they had to do. I can't see the whole thing, but I guess I'll give it
[58:11.560 --> 58:15.320] to them because although I like OT OOTDs, I can't remember the choreography.
[58:15.320 --> 58:20.440] But I can remember this. Okay. I will give it to Dreamcatcher. They went all three for me.
[58:20.440 --> 58:24.680] I do remember it. The like tapping and then like the black dress, like waving.
[58:24.680 --> 58:30.040] Oh, the black dress. So yeah, I will give it to Dreamcatcher. And so clearly they are also
[58:30.040 --> 58:34.680] my overall winner in this girl group edition. I mean, I'm clear.
[58:34.680 --> 58:39.720] Top off. Are they yours as well? Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, baby girls. Listen,
[58:39.720 --> 58:43.240] they on. I was looking for it to you. I'll just say that I was looking forward to them.
[58:43.240 --> 58:47.400] I mean, here look, like you said, I think they're very talented. I am curious what they're going
[58:47.400 --> 58:52.280] to do next. So we will be here for it. So yeah, if you'd like to hear what we think of their next
[58:52.280 --> 58:59.160] song, make sure to vote for them on our poll. I will say it is very interesting because I
[58:59.160 --> 59:04.680] expected there to be more votes for all the boy groups that released. Me too. But yeah,
[59:04.680 --> 59:08.840] you guys didn't turn up. You guys didn't turn up? They did not. I was surprised.
[59:08.920 --> 59:12.840] What came through this this month, though? I was kind of surprised. Yum. It wasn't like some.
[59:12.840 --> 59:16.760] It was all they were all different. You know, it was really random. So I went to the Macy's
[59:16.760 --> 59:20.280] parade for the very first time for Thanksgiving one. Yeah. And then I didn't know that they were
[59:20.280 --> 59:26.200] going to be there. So when in hyphen came down all the baby shark float, I was like, why are they
[59:26.200 --> 59:29.960] here? And then like Envogue was on the float like in front of them. They asked the most random
[59:29.960 --> 59:35.320] people to go to this thing, but it was great. I enjoyed the float. Anyway, so I randomly saw
[59:36.040 --> 59:39.560] in hyphen at the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade.
[59:42.600 --> 59:46.200] So we're in there and then Envogue is like ring and don't let go. Yeah.
[59:49.240 --> 59:54.120] Oh, amazing. Oh my God. I got to love it. Got to love the world. All right. So guys, listen,
[59:55.160 --> 59:59.160] take it easy in those comments because you don't want me to. You don't want me to.
[59:59.160 --> 01:00:02.600] Oh, I want to hear your opinions, your genuine honest opinions.
[01:00:02] Easy. They ain't got to do like you guys are crazy. You are still don't do all that.
[01:00:06] You don't need to be mean to us. I want to just hear your opinion because that's
[01:00:09] a great is that music and all art is subjective. Yes. Yes. That's it.
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