Pop Off: Kep1er vs NAYEON vs LISA (June 2024 Comebacks)

[00:00:00] We have a Thai rock star of Bunny teaching us our ABCs and aliens exploding into beams of light. Wow, it looks like it's time for a K-pop pop off for the June 2024 releases.

[00:00:12] Every month here on CCTV we put up polls on our Patreon and Twitter at CCTV Pops and you get to vote for three of K-pop's biggest releases of the month to battle it out in our song, video and

[00:00:25] rounds. And of course, Patreon members get priority choice so make sure to join us at Patreon.com slash cctvpops and we do have a free tier as well and your votes count so yeah coming out with us yes

[00:00:38] absolutely remember pop off is meant for pure fun even though it's a competition like it's not that serious join us let us know when wins for you in the comments and keep it clean I want a nice

[00:00:48] clean fight yes so this month you voted for Kepler's shooting star NAYEON's abcd and LISA with rock star so let's get ready to rumble round one all right a prize we have player one

[00:01:06] kepler with shooting star and this was done by kevin day im su dan i su dan thayon of kepler d dank and zamun of d answer and livy got a couple of names on here and just anything you recognize

[00:01:22] no should i know i'm not gonna lie to you i didn't i didn't look like really deeply into it but i'm like i feel like i should like d answer sounds familiar but i can't remember right now yes

[00:01:33] kepler with shooting star what do we think about this one like how do you feel yeah um so it's kind of like a pseudo disbandment song or at least like an end of a chapter song right because

[00:01:42] two of the members are no longer continuing with the group so i think um with that kind of context in mind you know i think it works it's super hopeful it's ethereal there's some melancholic

[00:01:56] kind of undertones in there right and it works as kind of like an encore song at a concert or even like the end of an anime or something you know like line so i get yeah given that context

[00:02:09] that it could have actually been a disbandment song as well uh i think it's fine i think as a single it doesn't necessarily stand out like i think i've had this kind of issue with kepler kind of the

[00:02:23] whole time so it'll be interesting to see what happens as as they are now continuing but they don't really have a sound like all their stuff could be done by multiple other k-pop pro groups

[00:02:35] yeah so yeah i just nothing about it is just very that it's that special to me i guess uh but i think for what it is i think the driving beat is nice i like the synths and and the effects of it

[00:02:49] and the overall structure is nice as well i like the kind of almost acapella pre-chorus the chorus has a decent impact and the melody is nice yeah and yeah i don't know it's fine

[00:03:01] what do you think yeah i think um the song reminded me of twice speaking of any other girl group but i felt twice to me um so i felt a little bit more gravitation toward it when i first heard it uh i

[00:03:12] think what like almost longer than a month ago no just a month ago so yeah um i think the lyrics about embracing each other's flames and being a star that will never fade is a sweet sentiment

[00:03:24] you know it's very on the nose in terms of the thematic elements of the song and i feel like this song is a slight bit of a tease of what could have been with this group um you have a

[00:03:33] vocoder in that pre-hook that's accompanied by a whisper and it sounds alien like it sounds kind of not creepy what's a word for something that you like the unknown i don't want to say yeah it's a

[00:03:44] sure yeah yeah like a creepiness but there's something about it that feels very extraterrestrial that's the word i'll say here yeah and it's like dang i wonder what would have happened if they

[00:03:54] would the company had not abandoned the whole keplian alien thing i get it was played out but now we're at this point where no one really is doing the space concept and now it's like oh you kind of

[00:04:06] let it go you dropped the ball because you thought the ball was already played out um shout out to the beginning of the song and the producers because i like the synth with the pew pew

[00:04:14] in the beginning of the song like it sounded like a shooting star it sounded like lasers yes yeah i really do appreciate it that's the word that's a good one yes and i would say like that i

[00:04:25] like the mixing on the song because it makes them sound like ethereal aeolian girls and although i can't really determine their voices um i think you've said it before in the past right it's

[00:04:34] like oh their voices are not distinctive i agree um and maybe because i'm not a huge fan but there isn't like a deep voice in the group really there's rappers or whatever but i will say vocal

[00:04:44] the vocal production on this is very emotive and it's effective like i under i didn't understand what they were saying by understanding how they felt and i think that's really good especially with

[00:04:52] a song like this where it's kind of like a mild farewell and great you know so it definitely did what it had to do considering the circumstances yeah okay well moving on to player two we have

[00:05:05] nayan with abcd this son was done by rick bridges jyp p-dog ghost loop erin rhyme lucky lue and charelle um you know i like this song a little bit more than pop because it just sounds like a

[00:05:21] more mature progression because we all know naya would be the kind of like sweet little kind of like girl next door image and this one is a little bit more like you know girl from around the way

[00:05:30] but still next door like she moved and came back and visited the small town um so it's still like in her wheelhouse of like i think her personality but it's different in terms of like the

[00:05:41] production and the approach to the song um i was watching some behind the scenes of the recording and nayan mentioned how song how high the song is it is quite high i think they actually recorded

[00:05:54] certain parts like a step lower than it was originally recorded so i really do wonder if charelle was the the the demo vocal and if so she must either be a belter or like a

[00:06:04] mixed belter because it is high i would say that when i was first listen to the song i think the highness of it uh was causing a little bit of shrillness here and there like tightness

[00:06:17] because i can hear the digital binding of melodyne trying to get some of her background vocals tight um and that's understandable so really high notes are big notes um and on top

[00:06:27] of that you're dealing with like the raps and the vocals you're jumping back and forth and then belting right after so even in a recording you can punch that in you know we could all

[00:06:38] punch it in but the whole thought of the song like the the dynamics of it it's a lot um and i commend nayan for being able to i guess rise to the occasion and actually sing the notes instead of

[00:06:50] being like you know what i can't hit this i'm intimidated so and luckily it's the chorus so she can always just lip sync that during the you know we love a good lip sync chorus we sing

[00:06:58] the verses y'all um but yeah i think she's not doing that either but yeah okay yeah no it's valid that's all but you see it's live we'll talk about later we'll talk about later yeah

[00:07:07] so this sounds like something that rich harrison would do um if he had made music for a pop artist not the big hits like uh Beyonce's crazy amary's one thing and jaylo's git right and speaking of

[00:07:20] amary the dance break there's a oh oh oh i was like oh that is hilarious i know it's not an official sample though i immediately thought one thing as well then the notes are changed

[00:07:30] that's like it's close enough it is oh you know i think i think it was sneaky enough to kind of understand that rich harrison's his influence during the r&b horn pop situation was really hot i don't

[00:07:49] think he were like a like a pop artist in the west really it was just mostly amary jaylo and Beyonce that were really like the big hits right um i love the fuzziness of the synth

[00:07:58] right before the horns come in there's a guitar throughout the song that's being played and then there's a spanish guitar style in the second verse like the song is so cohesive in

[00:08:07] terms of the sonics even if you get introduced to a different kind of melody in terms of like the instruments it was an instrument we already heard throughout the song so it wasn't like what the

[00:08:17] hell where is this coming from um and i appreciate we got a dance break not in the official version but like in the music video so it's nice to hear that too i know i wish it wasn't

[00:08:25] the studio version actually yeah that'd be great we love it listen i mean it's so great because the song would have just clocked in at 3 36 so they definitely should have cut it in um and the bass

[00:08:35] heavy ouch it was a nice switch up i would say um i think this song is actually not bad it's good it's a throwback to what we all know and love of pop divas of the 2000s yes um but unfortunately in

[00:08:47] south korea this thing only charted at 95 but really yes on the circle charts like it peaked at 95 which is crazy i mean she won twice but here in america and the world digitized

[00:08:57] america but on the world digital charts uh on billboard she got number two so it's like this weird little thing i don't really get how that chart is calculated though to be honest um shoot

[00:09:07] that's something i thought the american artists if an american artist would have released it maybe would have been a little bit more like oh what's this and not like maybe i could actually envision like one of the little mix girls maybe doing this no that'll make girls yeah

[00:09:21] what you want um maybe jade oh each speaking of she's about to come out and she's been saying that it's gonna be like that she didn't want to just do something that people could like just dismiss so

[00:09:33] i'm excited for oh what that is anyway back to back to nyan okay so i actually really like this song just the song itself i think it's really well done yeah super super catchy love the production

[00:09:45] it kind of has some real organic instruments mixed with kind of fake digital instruments kind of all throughout it so it's it's kind of cool um the way that it was all done um

[00:09:56] regarding her voice uh i love how the way she actually sounds in like the lower parts like the verses yeah she goes into her head voice yeah it's so much nicer because it's not that like nasal

[00:10:09] belt that she does it's like a really nice fuller tone and so that was actually nice to hear from her because she doesn't normally get to sing like that she always gets the high belty moments in the

[00:10:20] twice songs too i feel like um yeah so yeah that i thought she sounded good there um i think the chorus is just great like it's just good pop like it's i like the whole chorus is fun like you

[00:10:33] have the kind of rap the first half then the super kind of melodic moment and all the hooks kind of stand on the roam but then work well together so yeah i think as a song it just works

[00:10:43] really well it it does end very abruptly though which i hate i hate that it doesn't feel like that's how the song should end so i don't know yeah that's like only real like kind of critique

[00:10:55] though i i do enjoy this a lot and i like it a lot more than pop actually yeah pop was cute little teaser this one was definitely main course for sure yeah and speaking of a main

[00:11:05] course just moving right along we're gonna go right into lisa with rock star and she's our player number three and this was done by ryan tedder sam homey delacy james eason lucy healy and lisa and it

[00:11:20] includes a sample of a new person same old mistakes by tame and paula which i was like oh my god it's just tame and paula um this is so much better i g would have given her oh my gosh this is so much

[00:11:31] better is it like an amazing song no but if you're a fan of hyper pop or even charlie xx in the room room era this song would have slide right on there as a demo um and it would have been

[00:11:42] fine uh like you can literally hear with the accent i'm a rock star um if you put a british accent or an english accent excuse me on this vocal it would sound just like a charlie demo maybe nothing

[00:11:55] that she would have written herself but then again maybe because there's lyrics like this ain't make you rock hard i'm a rock star i think lines like that are very charlie xx it wouldn't be on brad

[00:12:05] no but the chis talking and the confidence and the the braggadociousness is what really makes it me feel like oh this is a nice little influence track i'll just say that um i like that there

[00:12:21] are mentions of lisa's persona i don't appreciate the the t-shirt japanese part i mean that line could have been changed into like um lisa something something yeah i'm tight tight not japanese height

[00:12:36] height because she's not and you know i thought i didn't find offensive that i thought it was more like she's showing how like international yeah like her global appeal and her global influence

[00:12:47] and that she can speak other languages i guess no i get it i get it but it's one of those things where tai literally rhymes with high and i'm like why don't you just you know whatever no one ever

[00:12:55] no biggie because again charlie xx could easily say teach me japanese hey hi i would be like oh yeah fine whatever but it's one of those things where i heard i was like oh that's funny um but yeah i think

[00:13:06] that uh would have been like a cute little moment for her to mention tai land um but she did mention it when she said bkk because of the airport so i feel like because of those little moments

[00:13:15] it feels a little bit more um like she actually had a hand in it as opposed to someone writing a song about what they think she is or who they think she is or her persona um even though this is very much

[00:13:27] like that it just feels a lot more cooler than lalisa did because i got up and like when she said you know pistol in my hand or you know i don't want to say and get like censored but like she

[00:13:35] says like you know in my hand i'm like girl what what are you who are you okay what guns you're popping um i think the filter on her voice is really fun i like that um it helps with the whole

[00:13:47] effect of the song we're sure but yeah my last note was literally tame it pala it sounds like tame it so yeah i think overall the song is effective it does what it has to do it fits right into

[00:13:58] what i like personally um and yeah she delivered it well i'm glad she's saying it didn't sound like really bad like i was worried when i heard her start saying i was like oh no um but again

[00:14:09] no handled really well i think no i think yes she did a really good job and i think it's just proof of why she needed to to leave why she for her solo stuff um it just opens her up to just work with

[00:14:22] with other people that kind of understand what she's trying to do i have not historically been a huge fan of her solo stuff i found it actually quite annoying um but this actually i think is good

[00:14:34] i will say it's still like not really a song i would listen to like it's very much one and i say this was actually a lot of just black pink stuff in general but i i enjoy watching them perform it

[00:14:45] i enjoy watching the visuals but i don't necessarily love just listening to them um and i yeah i think this is is the same i also will say it is far too short i know that's a thing now um but i feel

[00:14:58] like it could have gone like even further than it did and then it kind of just stops so yeah yeah give me actual rock give me actual rock at least in the top maybe like a cool rock moment yeah

[00:15:08] yeah go for it but yeah super super catchy i think the lyrics are awesome like like you were saying like you can tell that they i mean they just felt authentic to her um and that she was able to have

[00:15:18] a say in it and and she writes some of it hopefully as well um yeah i think it's a cool song like there's just a lot going on in it it definitely takes you on a roller coaster there's a lot

[00:15:30] of tension all throughout it yeah so yeah i think it's kind of just the beginning of this new chapter for solo lisa this is a perfect kind of first like statement to make yeah for sure i heard some people

[00:15:42] say they don't like the song which is interesting yeah i mean like i said i like the song i won't really listen to it but i think it's way better than all her other stuff so no true but maybe

[00:15:51] some people are like no this is crap like i was like really interesting hey what are what they wanted from her you know right what do they want from her then this is very much in line with kind of

[00:16:00] what i think she's been about so yeah and that i'm going all right that being said what song wins this round for you uh definitely naion for this one how about you oh man it's tough because of

[00:16:14] the lisa and uh naion both fit styles that i would i just love yeah um but when i hopped on the chat today when i clocked in for the work today for cctv i was singing naion so naion gives it

[00:16:28] for me a bcd yeah that's what's in my head right now too ma'am okay moving on to round two with the video round two so we have kepler's shooting star so what do you think all right oh you know what

[00:16:48] talking about sonic identity what is this group's like visual i oh my god it's so frustrating because what ends up with kpop what ends up happening i think a lot of kpop fans don't

[00:16:58] realize is that yeah your fave may look really good but they're wearing trendy outfits the trendy outfits are going to look really amazing like oh my god don't talk about their outfits look at me

[00:17:08] because it's the trend it's going to look good because our dressing trendily it's it just makes sense all right but that's kind of also a little bit like i guess a downfall because like

[00:17:17] they could have at this is an opportunity to kind of get a little funky with the outfits and not be so y2k but just like canteen scene of star wars where you're wearing like these brown and green

[00:17:28] you know thing like yes yes the palette was just giving like oh we landed on a planet and this is where the girls are like i don't i was like uh-huh but then again this is coming

[00:17:40] from someone who stand flower power by s and sd from how many years when they're wearing the skirts in the boots so i mean that's just i don't know but the budget's different nowadays this is

[00:17:48] standard it's different yeah yeah this is true yeah this is it's less camp in the costume and more to like give us a give her vasache give her chrome hearts and and have the fans try to figure

[00:17:58] out how to get it off of a fast fashion site but my point is there is a little bit of campiness i wish i would have seen them like the fashion at certain points but and whatever

[00:18:09] the girls look pretty they look really pretty i mean that's a given their idols but you can also just see how much they've grown from like the beginning of the show to the throughout the video

[00:18:19] we kind of had them on our show like a lot um we have the keplians is that what they're called the fans the keplians yeah you guys have really wanted us to talk about them even though i've been

[00:18:28] quite negative most of the time sorry god and yeah i'm not i'm gonna try to shade them or anything like that i just for me i don't want so much star trek but i want less like you know canteen

[00:18:39] see it was certain thing because my things with like eyes one you know what their whole thing was that they were elegant girlies they were going to give you face look glamour you know um even with

[00:18:50] ioi they were a little thing and what's the concept but they could switch between the dark like strappy harness look and then do like the nomu nomu novos with them unfortunately

[00:18:59] they got kind of ping pong back and forth with the concept and it's kind of showing in this video where it's like they're wearing the canteen scene they're in this one room uh wearing all black and

[00:19:10] they're dancing around these spinning stained glass windows from La Familia like it was just doing a lot familiar segrada that you know like the stained glass so it's like one of those things where it's

[00:19:19] like if you guys have not seen that show you're chris and i watched it together yes it is and stained glasses are like the the opening credits uh imagery yes anyway things like that i was like

[00:19:31] oh come on so it's just very like a standard issue music video like they looked pretty yes they were dressed in the stylish trendy clothes yeah cool um but yeah i feel like at the end the light forms

[00:19:43] that appear could have been them like instead of having them communicate with the girls like i'll add yeah that's what i said too i was like why did they just transform like a full magic

[00:19:53] girl situation and then they just turn into the stars like why do they have to meet these like horrible CGI those like light form alien things really really yeah i mean maybe it was like

[00:20:05] i'm trying to give you give a dog a bone here maybe it was like um the alien versions of them were like we're leaving you behind we're going and they're you know leaving this error behind i don't

[00:20:14] know maybe yeah yeah well it's supposed to represent just like them and like like they're i don't know just like their star versions of themselves like yeah the star seeds coming in or whatever

[00:20:25] i don't know um your child i will say the whole thing did feel a little cheap which again though it kind of makes sense because if this was supposed to be an actual disbandment song

[00:20:34] because from my understanding and keplians please correct me if i'm wrong i feel like these negotiations for the group to continue were they kind of kept going like quite late so it's possible they actually filmed all this like when they thought the whole group was ending

[00:20:47] oh yeah yeah that makes sense um because it does feel a tad sheep like that pseudo spaceship thing looks really fake yeah and sad yeah um so yeah looks video is definitely not one that i

[00:21:02] really remember very much of or one that i would turn to again but for them as actual performers their chemistry and overall presence has definitely improved yes because it was a little rough like

[00:21:13] for that first video first couple videos yeah it feels a little stronger now um they kind of did what they could but just the overall like execution of this concept was not my phased

[00:21:27] you know what same i agree same kind of is what it is and it's exactly what you expected right it's called shooting star and like i'm fine with it being like an on-the-nose concept

[00:21:35] but then you just have to execute it really well and this one i think was just fine yeah yeah yeah it's the same thing on du camp there's really because they could have been on a spaceship

[00:21:44] just like oh my god we're crashing or something and then like whatever um anyway just or in the glow of like with girls loud untouchable yes like crashing onto earth yeah something that

[00:21:56] would be cute or even cosmic girls would you sonyeo uh their songs oh yes yes that's right shout out to starship for that one um but anyway moving around to a bcd by nai young

[00:22:08] yes man this one is interesting because like we've seen the set for the music video before and junk hooks 3d um seen it somewhere else i forgot where else but we've all seen this i feel like it's

[00:22:18] like a standard like universal lot or something it is a lot yeah it's definitely like been used in multiple things yes exactly so you've seen it but what i appreciate about this is like the large

[00:22:29] space was used to create chaos so you fill up the space as opposed to with kepler's video you have this set but it's very much it comes across almost 2d because of the lack of not

[00:22:42] furniture but the feng shui's all because everything is just open space girls dancing that open space this one was like it's open space there's a car there's a fire hydra there's people there's commotion

[00:22:53] going on it almost reminded me of something like a john chou film you know like a step up or like the recent yeah heights it was giving that um i do appreciate her crashing into the scene

[00:23:08] literally on the scene with her bunny buick i'm not sure if it was a buick or not but the b in the b the bunny buick because then she emerges looking super hot giving the camera the stare down um i love

[00:23:18] the looks in the video i think that was obviously the highlight of it doing the whole multiverse nion yes did you have a favorite multiverse nion oh um i mean i liked nion say which i guess

[00:23:30] everyone is calling her um like just the white just the you know just the classic kind of white top gene short situation um i like i like the geek i like the geek chic nion because she was

[00:23:42] giving us a life in that um in that library she was oh yes yes yes if you are if you are if you have made it this far first of all subscribe and second of all let us know in the comments below

[00:23:52] which favorite nion multiverse version variant that you like um but yeah and i think overall the video definitely displays how much she's grown as a young woman like she's like 28 now

[00:24:03] so at this point it's like she's grown enough for this like i'm so cute like she can do it but now she has to give eyes and give smiles i will say there are moments where i was like

[00:24:13] hmm she's almost a little too soft for the concept i wonder what would have happened if momo could actually like really oh vocal you know um because jeal could have done it we ought to

[00:24:23] we know she could have done it but i wonder what would have happened if like a dancer dancer like momo who is in the pocket in terms of hip hop dancing would have gotten this um but hey

[00:24:32] nion handled it i just feel like at a certain point she was a little bit not as intense as i needed from her but she gave me sultry she gave me sensual at a certain point she gave me whimsical

[00:24:41] what it needed to be um but i feel like geek chic her was mostly like the main her that could handle it i love the geeky damsel senorita nion but i feel like the geeky almost like the more like

[00:24:53] who she is as like personality um and nion's like ate it up yeah i okay so i enjoyed the video i thought was really well done i will say the multi verse

[00:25:05] concept definitely was a little chaotic the first time i watched it as i kept watching it i was kind of like okay i get it like you're trying to show that you can kind of like just kill every

[00:25:15] concept basically like put you can put me in any era in any space that i can kill it so i kind of love that as a as a concept um i agree with you though i so i to be honest i ended up watching

[00:25:28] the dancers more than i watched her in a lot of the scenes first off because it was just a little chaotic like all the dancers are wearing something completely different like there are so many of

[00:25:37] them and and they kind of completely surround her so that's part of it too but i'm not sure she really has the stage presence yet to to kind of own the scenes like this when when

[00:25:48] there's so much going on around her she doesn't really have that charisma yet i would say no it'll be interesting to see how that develops but i really did have to actually remind myself to watch her a

[00:26:01] lot of the video like i would end up watching the dancers because they're killing it and and like you said we'll talk about the choreo at the in the next round more but they're hitting it

[00:26:09] harder than her so it's like especially because we're dancers like i tend to i look out obviously for good dancing the dancer yeah so that's part of it too yeah but yeah i think that's the only thing

[00:26:22] with it is that i agree with you it did feel a little soft like i was missing the fire in her eyes during moments of it uh but that's i'm just being nitpicky at this point like i think overall

[00:26:33] i thought the video was great like very well executed and it matches the song well and then i would definitely watch it again it was giving me a little bit of boa as well actually oh man

[00:26:41] yeah each of you had just a lot of just olive boa all of boa yeah at this point yeah yeah yeah okay so then we have rock star yeah which first off shout out to some of my old colleagues who worked

[00:26:55] on this video uh i was talking to them about right after lunch and they were telling me some interesting stories that i can't say but uh good job to everyone i'm really proud of everyone

[00:27:06] for for doing it because this video is so good it's so good and like we never i i never doubted lisa really with with kind of this aspect of it you know i've never loved her solo music but the

[00:27:19] videos have always been great um and so this especially when we knew kind of you know people were saying she you know she closed down this huge street in banggog and she like paid off all

[00:27:30] the vendors so she could so they could be for the day um so even all the teasing and stuff i was already like quite intrigued and and yeah definitely executed pretty perfectly and i think differently

[00:27:41] from what i just said about nion lisa can stand out kind of in this giant group of dancers she can stand out in kind of the chaos of the street um but again to be fair the styling of the dancers

[00:27:55] and stuff helps because you know they're all wearing the same thing or they're wearing sunglasses or whatever like they had there's the the direction of it and just the cinematography of it it kind of

[00:28:05] forced you to focus on lisa a bit more so that always helps but lisa is definitely a star she does have that charisma i think even you know disregarding all of that um so yeah i just think

[00:28:17] some really cool choices made in here like that little nineties filtered kind of the vhs filter in the beginning um the way they just filmed all the extras in the white hoods with

[00:28:27] kind of the flashing and stuff just the lighting in everything was really beautiful so yeah i thought it was great would you think this one is a favorite of mine i think i'm so happy that we got to see

[00:28:38] lisa's forehead like because boy ah not that it like it's like a huge deal but like the slick back look on her it looks great and the way yg was covering that girl for you would have thought

[00:28:50] she had like a like a parasitic growth on it um like what the f like she looked so good in that first scene um i think uh the direction is what really sells it for me a shout out to

[00:29:03] henry skullfield for the direction i mean he's anybody with a Billie eilish do a lepa and he was inspired by kentucky marz humble video with all the head and the head because i was watching it

[00:29:12] i was like what does it look familiar um but i'd like the hood thing because it's given like cult like following and lisa kind of does have a cult like following people or no matter what

[00:29:23] how you may feel about black pink as a whole you can't be like oh yeah lisa was being lazy or lisa wasn't performing or lisa wasn't da da da lisa that she was never up for debate when it came to

[00:29:32] actually wanting and uh wanting to be on stage and performing the crap out of things so it was kind of cool to watch that i love the styling in this video uh super i would say super simple

[00:29:45] but i have very familiar silly silhouettes with simple color palettes and i think this video was effective because of the usage of limerant spaces like the empty streets the empty mall the empty white thing set it's all empty spaces that are being filled with lisa's presents that's more

[00:30:07] powerful than having even though i love the chaos in nyan's video it makes sense because it's like everyone it's almost like love potion number nine what every man was obsessed with the

[00:30:15] character in the movie that's what i was giving it made sense but for this video if you're saying i'm a rock star i am the the blueprint and i am the the zenith of what a pop star is then yeah

[00:30:26] you have to be at the focal point in front of it um i think it was cool if it had the sexiness the glamour and the edginess of being a rock star and it made me think of like rihanna's rock star

[00:30:34] 101 it made me think of post malone's rock star and this song can get slotted up with the another song that has the same title and be different and be appreciated um there are

[00:30:45] some really cool cameos you have some of tylen's tylen's uh very own uh trans influencers which i think is really important um to show them in like a they were actually just wearing like mall gear

[00:30:55] they weren't even wearing anything super flashy it was like bam here we are here's tylen like she was highlighting her country respect to that um and the choreography was really ooey gooey and i come to find out shon kink shon kinkston shon bankhead choreographed this i was like

[00:31:11] that's why it was giving victoria monne and nabrid section because i was like something about the hair flipping and the dancing and and the yes you know i'll talk about it later but yeah again

[00:31:21] the limerant spaces the color grading everything was super simple but yeah that matrix effect when the but the fast rapping was fired to that matrix effect when they're all frozen good stuff yeah

[00:31:33] it's super effective okay so what wins the video round for you lisa wins it for me yes lisa wins it for me as well yes it's hard it's hard to beat that one yeah okay so our final

[00:31:47] round is the performance and choreography round three so what do you think of shooting stars choreography okay so this one is pretty i will commend girl groups for being able to execute choreography with so much emotion and so many little intricacies yeah because it's not easy

[00:32:15] and i was like oh this is like really typical but at this point like there's no need to reinvent the will in terms of like girl groups are so many and there's so much going on like i don't know what

[00:32:23] else they can do to actually be like wow maybe they would have lift one of another maybe i don't know may look like a cheerleading freaking pyramid and looked at the other i don't know you know

[00:32:33] like a little creative star yeah something i don't know what else they could have done you know i'm saying so at this point i just appreciate and commend them for being able to make everything

[00:32:43] look hyper femme and soft because you can make those moves easy look super uh choppy i've seen it oh my god yes but they look fluid um and also i just want to say if the goal of the choreo was

[00:32:54] to make shoutin look amazing like she was um the lead dancing her um mission accomplished because every single time it was her part they kept the members kept framing her

[00:33:04] and enveloping her in her arms and i was like oh no it's it's one of those things went from the beginning everyone like looked at shouting was like wow that's the girl you know even though

[00:33:15] she's not the number one like slotted winner of the show yeah but but yeah i was like damn y'all y'all really making this girl shine uh i think performances were decent um i liked that they

[00:33:27] were in unison i like that they the synchronization was was good um in terms of like dynamism and their dancing they're pretty much on the same level like Ikuta wasn't going too hard i mean

[00:33:39] yeah her her head might be a little angled or something or whatever but it was like she was and everyone was like uh so i appreciate that i like the costuming throughout the promotion

[00:33:49] like they look like pretty fairy alien princesses so i appreciate that um again i think we would have just been i think we were robbed of a flower power boots and skirt star check moment

[00:33:59] but again i'll leave it alone i'll let it go i'll let it go yeah yeah so i yeah i agree with you i think in terms of the actual choreo it's fine you know it's the standard of what current k-pop girl group

[00:34:13] choreo is like it yeah there wasn't anything super groundbreaking but it fit the song um and it is quite hard to do as well a lot of hand choreography hips like really flowy arms but then you have

[00:34:25] to be able to kind of stop them and in kind of very specific ways so it actually is quite intricate and very difficult to do and their execution was great like yeah like you said like they were

[00:34:36] together as well in terms of in terms of how much energy they were kind of giving each move and and yeah it's actually really hard to do handography and armography yeah very cleanly like across

[00:34:47] so many members as well and they make it look quite effortless like the performance style actually is quite effortless i think as a group yeah you can't really see them thinking much at all

[00:34:58] like it feels very natural uh so so i appreciate that um yeah and i think just to match the song as well like there is a ton of different ways of them doing the star imagery sometimes it's using

[00:35:11] hands sometimes it's using you know formations some you know i just feel like the creativity with with just the star idea was well done uh and i think the point choreo as well with you know with

[00:35:21] the hands and and the hip rolls and the fingers at the arms and stuff like it was pretty memorable like i kind of knew what was coming kind of by the end even after the first watch so yeah

[00:35:30] as k-pop choreo i think it it was good yeah again i think the standard is just so high and there's just so saturated now that nothing about it really stood out but that doesn't mean it was bad

[00:35:42] yes yeah absolutely i know what you mean oh wow okay so now we're on set naio with a b c d yes naion say yes naion say that is so funny um even though she's gonna be compared to uh beyond say i don't

[00:36:00] think she has the attack necessary not yet not yet and that's the kind of like did it because she has princess ham when she dances like there was certain things she'd be hitting it with her

[00:36:08] with her like the hip in the dance break and it was like like uh video game hands is very princessy where it's like you know being clean and clean as opposed to just really going for it and like

[00:36:19] i don't know it's just nothing about it it's like she's stopping herself from really getting nasty with it or maybe she doesn't feel comfortable i did watch some of the choreography video and

[00:36:27] the performance director was like oh this is a lot we had to find places to breathe so that's kind of what annoyed me a little bit was that some of the choreography was very much like

[00:36:35] why is she skipping across the freaking stage she could have walked that and the other dancers could have been doing that i will say the choreographers she did what she needed to do in

[00:36:44] terms of creating a picture both for the sake of the music video and for the sake of the performance because both are different and both require a different set of blocking to kudos to

[00:36:55] her for sure um i feel like naion was definitely getting pushed out of her comfort zone and even with um more and more even though pop is a lot harder and more energetic i think than a bcd

[00:37:10] abcd just has random moments like in the drum moral right before the pre-chorus naion waxes and then tucks her hair behind her ear like why is that happening why is that happening it looks she looks great doing it don't get me wrong but why is this

[00:37:23] one arm going up just to tuck your hair back she could have just shook her hips a la boa a la that beyond sorry a la britney spears and kept it push it um yeah i mean watching her do the hip hop

[00:37:36] in the princess style was a little awkward um but it wasn't bad it was just like okay okay this is something that you can keep exploring do not stop exploring it keep going overall they should be a

[00:37:47] good job delivering the flirty and the sassiness throughout the verses um some movies were a little bit choppy in terms of like with the choreographer me i didn't like care for like

[00:37:55] little hand hand gesture but nothing crazy uh like i said intensity may be lacking but the beauty is not so you know she's all that she's hold it i would say she kind of sold it um beauty i

[00:38:09] she sold the beauty i said she's all the beauty she sold the beauty yeah yeah i don't yeah because i think as a whole i mean kind of like how i what i said about the video her her presence

[00:38:23] isn't fully there and i will say the stage version it's a little chaotic like there's just a walk going on it's like the boys come through then the girls come through then the boys come in and

[00:38:35] then the girls leave and then they're all together and then she gets lifted that is like and it's just like she's just moving all over the place as well like you mentioned and and there's no space for

[00:38:45] her to actually sing live like at all for some yeah but then it's just a lot and it doesn't need to be that and again going back to what i said earlier where i i felt like the dancers are hitting

[00:38:56] things harder and sharper than she is yeah which i mean to be fair like she is also like quote unquote singing so she's like in the center and and can be a little softer but in this case it's

[00:39:09] hard to not directly compare her to kind of everyone around yeah so many sharp moments and and and kind of hit and a lot of like hits and like rebounds and things and so if you're not

[00:39:23] if you can tell you're not like tensing up the same way that the dancers are it just looks soft and and so and then you're not even singing live because usually if you're singing live then

[00:39:33] it's like okay well obviously you can't hit that hard because you have to sing but then if you're gonna lip sync it then you should just go for it and so again i found myself kind of

[00:39:44] just watching the dancers more kind of throughout these performances and from watching just the kind of the full screen just like the choreography like practice and stuff i don't know i think it's

[00:39:54] just all too much it doesn't need to be this much going on like i feel like the parts that stood out were the slower moments like the slow walk with the girls kind of walking through or yeah little

[00:40:05] body rolls near the end and i don't know if that's more effective to me than kind of the chaos and how quick kind of a lot of it was i think that was more effective in the video than it is on stage

[00:40:17] yeah yeah i think that was like that biggest was a quickness yeah and then you mentioned the it's live uh band version and i think that video was kind of just proof of my point about her stage presence

[00:40:30] because she looks so uncomfortable like she's looking down a lot she's not like in the song at all she doesn't feel like she likes the song at all there's zero fire in her eyes yes she was just

[00:40:42] very nervous which it's like you can have a little fun yeah you know it's tough i mean when you're surrounded by eight other people yeah yeah yeah it's it's tough but it's i mean this i mean this is just

[00:40:53] this is the stage that she's in like in her solo career she's not fully there yet you're right yeah you're so right i'm not disagreeing but it just sucks i was like damn because she said exactly

[00:41:01] what you said she was uncomfortable she was i was i'm uncomfortable because the members aren't here she's not wrong she said it but no tino shea y'all love not yeah she's my bias um but yeah

[00:41:12] no it was not giving what it needed to be good good and you know nice effort though good choreography at certain points just here and there i was like oh oh oh um but yes good on to lisa as i mentioned

[00:41:26] this is quite a lot by shan bankhead yeah treymane's choreographer cardi b normani i mean i can go on yeah y'all can i can go on job seen the work um the choreo was giving skunk okay it was giving skunk

[00:41:39] i'm gonna say skunk in and in lieu of uh see you next to zeol this is the new thing but yeah it was giving skunk i was here for it i was like hey go ahead um but it was simple it wasn't like some

[00:41:49] crazy like all over the place it was just more like walk walk planet hit it hit hit yeah yeah and that's what you need sometimes you don't need to hit every single effing beat oh my i think i

[00:42:01] complained about it on the show before but sometimes our two episodes back i was like let's air if i'm as easy was it seems like they got an english demo they choreographed to it and they're like

[00:42:09] yo eff it keep it hmm this does that have the k-pop choreography feel it feels like it was a lot more musicality and more consideration about her performing to the camera as opposed to look

[00:42:23] like she can dance because we all know she can that's right the choreography was not difficult whatsoever it was just more like body roll hand hand hit the roll hit the face hit it tiki

[00:42:32] and i appreciate that when she kind of freaked it in the bridge that was cute but again it was giving me big twirl monet which is not terrible i mean that's not the worst reference i think yeah i mean

[00:42:41] viktoria has become that girl now in terms of like the dance pop girls in the west so yeah not bad um yeah at least i hold the day i like the the the dancing in the mall because you

[00:42:51] can actually see the whole the full picture of it but yeah no i mean great movement throughout um there's no live thing yet not yet i don't know if she's slated to perform any any at any point right

[00:43:02] now i don't think so yeah let us know though you guys know of anything i would can't wait to see a performance of this um yeah i love this like this is just good stage choreo which i guess

[00:43:14] nions i guess i did not think was good stage choreo like like you said it's relatively i mean of course we're dancers so we're looking at it more technically but actually the moves themselves

[00:43:22] like you said are not that difficult um yeah but then that's what allows i mean obviously the execution there's still a lot of musicality in there it is actually can be tough to to to execute it well

[00:43:34] which she does um because she's just super powerful like she puts just enough attitude into it like even like the like the point dance like the rock star like a strum yeah with like the

[00:43:47] perfect amount of like hip in it like uh-huh like her whole body is like controls yeah like how she's doing it it just looks so cool um yeah i can't fault this i can't wait to see like a full

[00:44:00] performance version yeah oh my gosh if he does the whole hair with i'm gonna be gagged so good all right so we've hit the end of it so the round excuse me um so what is your

[00:44:15] winner for the performance choreography round it's very clearly lisa oh yeah sorry then yeah i'm gonna give it to lisa it's tough it's really tough i think lisa blackpink came after twice right yeah they did i think yeah yeah and there's they're around this they're around like

[00:44:34] same the same age like 20 like later like mid and late 20s so yeah i know please say it holds it down you know she's always i think she's always hold it down it's kind of hard to

[00:44:41] compete against that it's tough it really is it really is yeah and also kind of just shows how tough it is to be a solo star like you do need that extra extra something you know to really stand out so

[00:44:55] absolutely i mean if actually would have been up on this list it actually happened on this list i would have been really sobbing and fighting with myself to figure out who would have done it because

[00:45:04] i think um woke up came out as well during this month but they didn't they didn't win on the polls right so yeah y'all i mean i think actually probably been a good combat combat with

[00:45:15] the pop off for sure um but any little doodle so we have a little bit of a dilemma now with this final overall winner we have a great song but then we have a great video great performance like which

[00:45:28] one takes it for you overall though i mean based on what we our points and stuff like that yeah yeah well i think so obviously i think the song round usually just counts more for me as a whole

[00:45:39] because obviously at the end of the day like what song would i want to listen to that was more important to me than than watching i think overall yeah so actually i would probably go with nayan because

[00:45:50] i think the song is great yeah yeah that's valid that's valid um i think i feel the same way but again it's so hard because i really do like hyper pop goodness but i all i love me a good charlie

[00:46:03] xx yet but i also love me a good Beyonce track you feel me and they're both of these songs are giving it to me and it's so difficult i think it would depend on my mood uh how i'm feeling yeah um i feel

[00:46:13] like in terms of a fully actualized song it's a little bit difficult because one ends on a button it one doesn't even have like a real bridge really it is reliant on a sample so it's kind of like

[00:46:27] hey neat um so that being said in terms of being a fully actualized song uh a song with textures i really enjoy i like both their textures crap let's give it to nyan for now okay i just give

[00:46:40] myself can you just put like two little boxes of both of them in there no yeah i'll give it to nyan at the end of the day i think nyan's song is the better song overall yeah overall for sure

[00:46:50] yeah so she wins it all right that was tough oh man all right so a couple songs did not make it but they were very close so we will be reacting to wavy rise and red velvet exclusively on our

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