KATSEYE dropped “WILD”, their third EP, and we went track by track for an honest review... and this might be the most critical we have ever been about them. We are rooting for KATSEYE….Biggest group in pop right now, a sold-out world tour, an Ed Sheeran co-write, a lost Charli XCX song reborn, and yet the actual music keeps coming up beneath what these women deserve.
Chris, Chantel and guest host Jasmine break down every track from the meme-hyperpop of "Pinky Up" to the deeply divisive "Hootie Frutti," the Y2K bounce of "That Way," and Lara's self-produced bonus "Unloveu." The question we keep circling: with a machine this expensive behind them, why does so much of “WILD” sound so disposable?
Sophia and Manon are both on hiatus…where do KATSEYE go from here?
Timestamps:
- 0:00 - Intro
- 1:05 - Sophia’s hiatus
- 5:08 - “Wild” Info
- 6:07 - Wild Hearts film
- 10:30 - Album Cover and Visuals
- 13:58 - “Pinky Up”
- 19:52 - “Animal”
- 33:48 - “Hootie Frutti”
- 48:17 - “Bel Air”
- 57:24 - “That Way”
- 1:04:00 - “unloveu”
- 1:11:11 - Cut or Keep
- 1:12:47 - Overall Thoughts & Final Rating
References:
- “Pinky Up” MV https://youtu.be/7F1ET2XHQfk?si=Ik2uBLWqwmsRzHoi
- “Pinky Up” Live at the American Music Awards 2026 https://youtu.be/k3VwwLeorsU?si=5xE1Pk4vZYylFiWz
- “Animal” MV https://youtu.be/m7k9UMcHbr0?si=MKFj4-Kw3-mZYwCn
- “Animal” Celebrity Substitute Version https://youtu.be/UdoR4R_5El0?si=aMDdx7l_de1AshXR
- “Animal” Live at The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon https://youtu.be/bmBEfh-yNYY?si=baHm61E-itiQpdgh
- “Hootie Frutti” MV https://youtu.be/is8UDe2PhKQ?si=6wTbp4HCdBvrrFvh
- “Bel Air” Charli XCX demo https://youtu.be/IsHOPnR_LGI?si=drcT4Va1WmpAxP0D
00:00:00 --> 00:00:06 Hootie fruit, fruit, fruit, fruit, fruit, fruit.
00:00:07 --> 00:00:12 This is CCTV, the nonstop pop show, where we provide our unfiltered, honest opinions on global pop music.
00:00:13 --> 00:00:13 That's right.
00:00:13 --> 00:00:19 And we've done so many episodes about Cat's Eye, reviewing all of their music, and of course, discussing all of the drama.
00:00:19 --> 00:00:27 So before we get into the Wild EP, we of course have to discuss the film Wild Hearts and also Leader Sophia taking a break.
00:00:28 --> 00:00:30 And of course, we have a very special guest with us today.
00:00:30 --> 00:00:36 We have recurring guest host, former producer of The Kelly Carson Show, now social media strategist for Apple Podcasts.
00:00:37 --> 00:00:38 It's Jasmine Steven!
00:00:38 --> 00:00:38 Hi!
00:00:40 --> 00:00:41 I'm so glad to be back.
00:00:41 --> 00:00:45 Thank you guys for inviting me, especially to talk about our girls, Katsai.
00:00:46 --> 00:00:46 Katsai.
00:00:48 --> 00:00:49 Yes.
00:00:49 --> 00:00:53 So we have a very short EP to discuss, but before we get there, there is drama.
00:00:55 --> 00:00:57 Because, you know, Manon is still not back.
00:00:58 --> 00:00:59 And let's be real, she probably won't be back.
00:01:01 --> 00:01:01 Aww.
00:01:01 --> 00:01:01 But...
00:01:02 --> 00:01:11 They're currently promoting actually as a four piece because as you just mentioned, Meter Sophia announced her hiatus on August 7th, 2026 to focus on her mental health.
00:01:11 --> 00:01:16 And Hybie and Geffen noted that they will reassess her condition in September and share a further update then.
00:01:17 --> 00:01:19 So what do we think of Sophia's announcement?
00:01:20 --> 00:01:21 What do you think, Jasmine?
00:01:22 --> 00:01:29 I think somebody is doing a little witchcraft on the cat's eye to slowly kick out one member out after another.
00:01:30 --> 00:01:32 Because that's what it feels like.
00:01:32 --> 00:01:36 Because it's like Manon's gone and they're like, oh, we don't know if she's coming back.
00:01:37 --> 00:01:38 And now Sophia's gone.
00:01:38 --> 00:01:40 It's like, oh, I guess we'll reassess how it is in September.
00:01:40 --> 00:01:40 Like,
00:01:41 --> 00:01:44 This is not boding well to their future.
00:01:44 --> 00:01:47 And it's not to make them look strong as a group.
00:01:47 --> 00:01:55 And it's just, I think at this point, we need to call the global experiment that is Cat's Eye, we need to call it done.
00:01:57 --> 00:01:58 Oh, man.
00:01:58 --> 00:01:59 I mean, okay, I get what you're saying.
00:01:59 --> 00:02:03 I even on WikiHow, I'm a WikiHow expert, if you guys didn't know.
00:02:04 --> 00:02:08 They asked me to kind of like give an opinion of sorts.
00:02:09 --> 00:02:10 Yes, I'm a Wiki expert, y'all.
00:02:10 --> 00:02:13 I'm a Wiki expert.
00:02:14 --> 00:02:17 they asked me to kind of contribute some ideas about what's happening with Manon.
00:02:17 --> 00:02:21 A lot of people in that whole chat believe that she's going to come back.
00:02:21 --> 00:02:23 And I was like, I think it's kind of done.
00:02:23 --> 00:02:24 So.
00:02:24 --> 00:02:27 And I said, I think I feel like this is not even like a little hiatus.
00:02:27 --> 00:02:27 It's not a sabbatical.
00:02:27 --> 00:02:29 This is a quiet exit.
00:02:29 --> 00:02:31 We're getting ghosted essentially.
00:02:31 --> 00:02:35 And with Sophia being on hiatus, it's interesting because now they have no choice, but to mention Manon.
00:02:36 --> 00:02:40 So it's interesting because now it's like, oh, yeah, Sophia, we miss you.
00:02:40 --> 00:02:42 And Manon, we love you too.
00:02:42 --> 00:02:49 So it's one of those things where, unfortunately, they're tied into that whole thing of not being able to confirm departure rumors and things like that.
00:02:49 --> 00:02:50 And now Sophia taking off.
00:02:50 --> 00:02:56 It's like, was what Manon could possibly be taking her breaks from?
00:02:56 --> 00:02:57 Is it really that?
00:02:58 --> 00:03:22 her being lazy or is it sophia is kind of like the one that's the strongest she's the leader why is she taking the hiatus if monola does not have the same reason so it's very interesting you know i am i will say i'm surprised that megan didn't go on hiatus i know she suffers with um not suffers that sounds crazy but she does have anxiety um and other um mental health issues that she talks about on occasion so it's interesting that sophia was the one that was like i'm going to step away
00:03:23 --> 00:03:28 Um, so now the four of them really have to kind of stick together and kind of like 10 toes down the situation.
00:03:28 --> 00:03:33 Um, and now the four of them being on tour also, I'm a little like, I don't know.
00:03:33 --> 00:03:33 Yeah.
00:03:33 --> 00:03:35 Wait, so Sophia's for sure missing the tour as well.
00:03:35 --> 00:03:36 Cause that's crazy.
00:03:36 --> 00:03:37 Yeah.
00:03:37 --> 00:03:40 Cause I think it starts in like the, like a couple of weeks.
00:03:41 --> 00:03:43 Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, because I have a couple festivals left.
00:03:44 --> 00:03:45 And then tour.
00:03:45 --> 00:03:45 Yeah.
00:03:45 --> 00:03:46 She might not miss it.
00:03:46 --> 00:03:47 She might not.
00:03:47 --> 00:03:49 And tour tickets are not selling well right now.
00:03:49 --> 00:03:49 Oh.
00:03:50 --> 00:03:52 In New York, they're gone, I think.
00:03:52 --> 00:03:53 Oh, good.
00:03:53 --> 00:03:56 Yeah, but not like, I don't think in other states, maybe not, but.
00:03:57 --> 00:04:00 I will say the wording has been quite fascinating to watch.
00:04:00 --> 00:04:07 I think, you know, the way they even handled Sophia's, you know, they had the full statement, like she got to do her whole statement.
00:04:07 --> 00:04:10 And I think, you know, they've been performing as a four.
00:04:10 --> 00:04:13 They've left Sophia's vocals just there.
00:04:13 --> 00:04:13 Yeah.
00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 They've left her space there in the choreography.
00:04:17 --> 00:04:17 Yeah.
00:04:17 --> 00:04:22 It feels like without saying it, they're like, oh, this is a different situation from Manon.
00:04:23 --> 00:04:31 Where they restaged everything and, you know, they kind of are leaving the space for Sophia, which is interesting.
00:04:31 --> 00:04:35 And also in interviews and stuff, like you said, they are now talking about the two of them together.
00:04:36 --> 00:04:38 But Laura now is the spokesperson.
00:04:38 --> 00:04:40 She has the same sentence that she says every time.
00:04:41 --> 00:05:01 yeah you know so yeah let's see what happens um sofia is very important to the group for sure especially as a leader as well so yeah and also i do think as of this recording megan actually did take i think a day off or something during the promo a tummy issue that sounds crazy so it's just like
00:05:04 --> 00:05:04 Yeah.
00:05:04 --> 00:05:05 Yeah.
00:05:05 --> 00:05:05 Oh, man.
00:05:06 --> 00:05:06 All right.
00:05:06 --> 00:05:14 So this era is now wild, which is Cat's Eye's third EP released on August 14th, 2026.
00:05:15 --> 00:05:25 And the official framing for this release is that they are moving beyond the beautiful chaos of the last EP into something more untamed, showcasing their growth as young women and identity as a group.
00:05:26 --> 00:05:32 And this time around, member Laura got to contribute creatively to the EP with the Target exclusive track,
00:05:33 --> 00:05:36 Unlove You, which is officially like scrubbed off the internet.
00:05:36 --> 00:05:37 So good luck finding it.
00:05:38 --> 00:05:45 And a behind the scenes documentary has launched alongside the EP in cinemas around the world called Cat's Eye Wild Hearts.
00:05:45 --> 00:05:51 So with all that being said, we're going to dive into the production, vocals, visuals, performances of each song.
00:05:51 --> 00:05:53 And then we're going to drop our individual ratings.
00:05:53 --> 00:05:57 You are, of course, allowed to join us and have some fun discourse in the comments.
00:05:57 --> 00:05:59 But viewer discretion is advised.
00:06:00 --> 00:06:01 Your fave will be criticized.
00:06:03 --> 00:06:09 Well, very quickly, before we talk about the album, I know, Shintel, you went to go see Wild Hearts in theaters.
00:06:09 --> 00:06:09 Yes, did you?
00:06:10 --> 00:06:11 I actually went as well.
00:06:11 --> 00:06:12 Yes.
00:06:12 --> 00:06:13 Okay, what'd you think?
00:06:15 --> 00:06:19 Any documentary from any K-pop company is bound to be sterile.
00:06:20 --> 00:06:26 I think with what we were looking at, it was more like a, here's the image you want you to have.
00:06:28 --> 00:06:30 K-pop thrives on this underdog story.
00:06:30 --> 00:06:37 So we're not going to talk about how the girls felt like they got into a bait and switched into a competition and how they had to bust their butts and everything.
00:06:37 --> 00:06:41 We will talk about how they, how hard they work and how everything has to be perfected.
00:06:42 --> 00:06:46 I do not like how they spoke on Manon as if she had passed away.
00:06:46 --> 00:06:46 It was like,
00:06:49 --> 00:06:57 It was like, she was so charismatic and she's got something so, she connects so well with the fans and like, I really miss her.
00:06:57 --> 00:06:59 You would have thought it was a eulogy.
00:06:59 --> 00:07:02 It was the strangest like rhetoric, I think.
00:07:03 --> 00:07:08 And then even when she was speaking about her experience in the group, it was like past footage from Dream of Cat.
00:07:08 --> 00:07:08 It was weird.
00:07:09 --> 00:07:16 It was Dream Academy footage here and there, and she was talking, and it just felt very, like, a memorandum.
00:07:16 --> 00:07:19 It was just not—I don't care for that.
00:07:20 --> 00:07:26 But the fact that they had her in it was interesting because, again, it's still kind of feeding that whole, like, will she, won't she thing.
00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 And it's like, stop doing this to the fans.
00:07:29 --> 00:07:34 Because it doesn't make sense for you to kind of perpetuate this and not give an actual like stop point.
00:07:35 --> 00:07:39 But yeah, the documentary did do a good job of revealing the most interesting part.
00:07:39 --> 00:07:44 Like I said before, the grueling amount of work that these girls have to go through emotionally and physically.
00:07:44 --> 00:07:48 The labor alone, like they were like, here it is.
00:07:49 --> 00:07:56 Which again makes Manon's so-called laziness seems like a young woman unwilling to die for something that's ruining these girls' bodies and mental health.
00:07:57 --> 00:07:57 They may love it.
00:07:58 --> 00:08:01 But it's also like this, like, you know, little Stockholm syndrome.
00:08:01 --> 00:08:02 Like, as an entertainer, I get it.
00:08:03 --> 00:08:05 It's like, I love this, but oh my God, it's kind of killing me.
00:08:05 --> 00:08:08 So, yeah, I feel like that is what I got from it.
00:08:08 --> 00:08:11 I was like, hmm.
00:08:12 --> 00:08:14 Jasmine, any interest in seeing Wild Hearts in theaters?
00:08:17 --> 00:08:21 If they had, like, made a definitive answer about Manon, probably I would have gotten to support that.
00:08:21 --> 00:08:21 But...
00:08:22 --> 00:08:25 Because they aren't, there's no need to.
00:08:25 --> 00:08:28 Like, there's no new information you're really gaining from this, from it.
00:08:28 --> 00:08:36 Like, documentary, at the end of it, as a fan, I should walk away feeling like I know these artists a little bit better or love them a little bit more.
00:08:37 --> 00:08:42 But from everything I've actually heard about it, it just feels like this could have been an article in Vogue.
00:08:44 --> 00:08:45 Yeah, it was just fluff.
00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 Like, it genuinely was just fluff.
00:08:47 --> 00:08:53 I do wish there were some more raw moments in it, because we did get that in Dream Academy, you know?
00:08:53 --> 00:08:55 So I was kind of hoping there'd be a little bit of that.
00:08:55 --> 00:09:06 I think the closest we got was seeing them react to the initial thoughts about Gnarly was actually quite interesting, because it was so negative, right, when that song came out.
00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 But then you just kind of got this...
00:09:09 --> 00:09:09 I don't know.
00:09:09 --> 00:09:18 I wish we got to dive a little bit more into their thoughts on the creative aspect of things.
00:09:18 --> 00:09:19 They kind of alluded to things.
00:09:19 --> 00:09:22 You could tell Touch none of them actually really cared much for.
00:09:22 --> 00:09:23 Right.
00:09:24 --> 00:09:25 And they're like, yeah.
00:09:25 --> 00:09:32 And then with a lot of it, it was just like, oh, when we were told that this was going to be our next song, we were told this is going to be our next concept.
00:09:32 --> 00:09:35 Like it really just emphasized how manufactured they are.
00:09:35 --> 00:09:37 Yeah.
00:09:37 --> 00:09:38 And obviously they had Lara in the studio.
00:09:38 --> 00:09:40 They showed them working on Unlove You.
00:09:40 --> 00:09:41 So that was good.
00:09:41 --> 00:09:41 Right.
00:09:41 --> 00:09:42 And so...
00:09:42 --> 00:10:00 maybe we're gonna get more of that but but yeah that was kind of the one thing that stood out for me in this yeah and then also we didn't get one vocal rehearsal it was all just focused on how clean their dance had to be which you know as a dancer i understand but the fact that they were
00:10:05 --> 00:10:09 Yeah, I have thoughts about that, too.
00:10:09 --> 00:10:15 I think we've already said it so many times on this show regarding Katzai, and it's not coming from a place of we don't like them.
00:10:15 --> 00:10:17 Like, if we didn't like them, we would not talk about them on our channel.
00:10:17 --> 00:10:20 We do not talk about ours we don't care about here.
00:10:20 --> 00:10:26 So that being said, getting into this album review wild, I will say that the...
00:10:27 --> 00:10:31 The interesting thing about this whole thing, I think the visuals of it.
00:10:32 --> 00:10:35 We're talking about the album cover with that pink...
00:10:36 --> 00:11:00 latex moment with the girls on it's like these uniformal kind of outfits and the blonde bob i feel like for me this visual for the era they're so fun you know i think everyone enjoys the silly campiness of it all that being said i feel like the visuals and everything else attached like everything you can see is more bold and daring than the actual body of we're going to get more into it of course but i just think just like
00:11:01 --> 00:11:05 There are separate member versions, like each of them looking like a miraculous ladybug villain.
00:11:05 --> 00:11:12 Like if you've ever seen that TV show, you know, like some version of an 80s wrestler villain, like they look like a heel.
00:11:12 --> 00:11:15 It looks like very Sailor Moon, you know.
00:11:15 --> 00:11:20 So I feel like everyone creatively, like the creative direction, everyone's having a good time.
00:11:20 --> 00:11:20 I get it.
00:11:20 --> 00:11:21 The stylists are working.
00:11:21 --> 00:11:23 Everyone got the wigs and the outfits and the designer.
00:11:23 --> 00:11:24 I get it.
00:11:24 --> 00:11:48 but like the variance of this album is typical of k-pop and also of american pop now too it's like yeah the wild desert version the wild world world version the wild wild west version the hot topic has collection target has a collection like there's a lot of creative direction being thrown our way there's even food collabs with san rio like this year in general has been wild but this album i don't know have you guys seen the food
00:11:49 --> 00:11:50 Yeah, a ramen.
00:11:51 --> 00:11:53 Yeah, the ramen and the beverages.
00:11:54 --> 00:11:55 It's like a canned beverage.
00:11:56 --> 00:11:56 You drink it.
00:11:56 --> 00:11:57 It has a cute little member.
00:11:57 --> 00:12:01 I mean, if you're somebody who wants to drink it, I probably would because I want to taste it.
00:12:01 --> 00:12:07 But it's just, it's a lot of like, here's their faces, buy this, buy this, buy this, buy this.
00:12:07 --> 00:12:13 Even their VIP like meet and greets were sold on the website and not on Ticketmaster.
00:12:15 --> 00:12:16 Yeah, so it's a lot of,
00:12:18 --> 00:12:22 I mean, look, the visual, let's be real, is more of a sell than the music is.
00:12:23 --> 00:12:28 Like the brand and them as a group is what people are here for.
00:12:28 --> 00:12:30 And the music is just kind of there.
00:12:32 --> 00:12:35 It's like the reason, it's almost like the photo shoots and stuff.
00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 They just needed a reason to actually make content.
00:12:38 --> 00:12:40 So that's why they're making music.
00:12:40 --> 00:12:40 I don't know.
00:12:41 --> 00:12:42 It's kind of crazy.
00:12:42 --> 00:12:43 But like, I agree with you.
00:12:43 --> 00:12:43 The visuals are great.
00:12:43 --> 00:12:45 I love the main content.
00:12:45 --> 00:13:01 ep cover i think all the variants are cool like they all have some interesting looks um i don't know i'm just it annoys me that they put so much more it feels like they put so much effort into the visual than they do the music oh that's valid okay
00:13:02 --> 00:13:02 Yeah.
00:13:03 --> 00:13:07 The wildest thing about all of this is that you called an album five songs plus a secret one.
00:13:09 --> 00:13:10 He's also disappointed.
00:13:11 --> 00:13:11 Yeah.
00:13:12 --> 00:13:18 You are now forever and will be a brand new artist Grammy nominee.
00:13:19 --> 00:13:19 Forever.
00:13:20 --> 00:13:21 Cat's Eye will be that.
00:13:21 --> 00:13:30 and this is what you give us for your second album, it's just like, it's almost a disrespect to the fans, it's a disrespect to the Grammys, which I mean, I get it.
00:13:30 --> 00:13:33 That institution is really almost negligible at this point.
00:13:33 --> 00:13:39 But it just feels like you just, just be hot influencers, just become an influencer house.
00:13:39 --> 00:13:40 Like, that's fine.
00:13:41 --> 00:13:43 You don't have to make music for people to pay attention to you anymore.
00:13:43 --> 00:13:48 You've made it so that these are young women that people actually give a crap about a little bit.
00:13:48 --> 00:13:52 I don't need you to spew music unless you actually want to make good music.
00:13:54 --> 00:13:55 Wow.
00:13:55 --> 00:13:57 Okay, well, great segue.
00:13:57 --> 00:13:58 Let's talk about the music.
00:13:58 --> 00:14:06 So first there is Pinky Up, done by Serana, Justin Tranter, Skylar Stone Street, Magzi, Dwilly, Hitman Bang, and France.
00:14:06 --> 00:14:09 And this song did peak at number 28 on the Billboard Hot 100.
00:14:10 --> 00:14:13 And it was released in April 2026 ahead of their Coachella set.
00:14:13 --> 00:14:19 So Chantel and I did record an episode about Manon's hiatus where we did also talk about Pinky Up.
00:14:19 --> 00:14:23 So I guess, Chantel, have your opinions on Pinky Up changed since then?
00:14:29 --> 00:14:30 I still kind of feel the same way.
00:14:30 --> 00:14:31 I think my score may be a lot.
00:14:31 --> 00:14:34 I don't know if it's different, but I think it's the same.
00:14:34 --> 00:14:37 I remember Jasmine.
00:14:37 --> 00:14:43 We were sleeping over because I think it was because I was staying up for Taman and I think the girls are also performing.
00:14:43 --> 00:14:43 Whatever.
00:14:43 --> 00:14:50 The point is, we slept over and she had verse two memorized because she looked at me dead in my face and be like, us against the world, shaking, shaking.
00:14:50 --> 00:14:52 And she would say the whole thing.
00:14:52 --> 00:14:57 And I thought it was so cool because I was like, wow, she memorized it that quickly because the song is quite catchy.
00:14:57 --> 00:15:00 I will say for all of its like wonkiness, it is so catchy.
00:15:01 --> 00:15:03 I will say that the songwriter, what's her name?
00:15:03 --> 00:15:06 Serana, she is this Romanian pop artist.
00:15:06 --> 00:15:09 I think she's not Romanian, but she's European.
00:15:09 --> 00:15:11 And she's come to California.
00:15:11 --> 00:15:11 She's on that.
00:15:11 --> 00:15:18 She's on that L.A. pop thing where it's like absurdist rave pop providing commentary on society or existentialism.
00:15:18 --> 00:15:19 Like it's a Trojan horse of sorts.
00:15:20 --> 00:15:23 Like there's a message in the madness type vibe.
00:15:24 --> 00:15:25 But like, let's be so real here.
00:15:25 --> 00:15:27 This song is legitimately made for children.
00:15:27 --> 00:15:29 Even if adults has made it.
00:15:29 --> 00:15:32 Even if these girls are legally speaking adults that are singing it.
00:15:33 --> 00:15:37 I don't hate the track, but it is, it feels like it's for kids because of how bright it is.
00:15:37 --> 00:15:40 I think we can all admit that it is like that.
00:15:40 --> 00:15:45 Even if older fans do latch on to it and they all feel like, oh, say the boots house down about it.
00:15:45 --> 00:15:46 Great.
00:15:46 --> 00:15:49 The song could be for the clubs and, you know, for some mindless dancing.
00:15:50 --> 00:15:52 But I think for the, for the whole thing.
00:15:53 --> 00:16:17 idea of the song it was definitely one of those things where it's like well we have this idea to release iconic by mistake so three of our girl groups are going to sing this song and the three of our girl groups are going to release these rave edm tracks so again it doesn't feel like it was like we want cat's eye to do this it felt like we have a plan for a bigger picture um so i don't hate the song but i do just feel like dang it sucks that they're getting kind of lodged into
00:16:22 --> 00:16:42 the actual group but that's just me i mean i don't hate the song though i can't i can't lie i don't hate it i like the melodies that are there um the chorus is just weak i've that's it like i mean you can't even call that a chorus i don't think the refrain sure jasmine what do you think of pinky up you know all the words
00:16:42 --> 00:16:43 No, no, no.
00:16:43 --> 00:16:44 I only get a second verse.
00:16:44 --> 00:16:45 Let's be clear.
00:16:46 --> 00:16:49 I only know, I only know us against the world.
00:16:49 --> 00:16:50 Shake it, shake it in the parking lot.
00:16:50 --> 00:16:53 If we get arrested, baby laughing off.
00:16:53 --> 00:16:54 I love you.
00:16:54 --> 00:16:54 You love me.
00:16:54 --> 00:16:56 You made me.
00:16:56 --> 00:16:58 And I'll kill him for you if it got that deep.
00:16:59 --> 00:17:02 Like I forever in this, in the cranium.
00:17:03 --> 00:17:03 Yeah.
00:17:03 --> 00:17:06 The song itself is just very much like, okay, you gave me Natalie part two.
00:17:06 --> 00:17:06 Great.
00:17:09 --> 00:17:20 which they did mention yeah that was the song that really took you from oh you're a kpop global group to cat's eye
00:17:20 --> 00:17:23 I understand why you would want to recreate it.
00:17:23 --> 00:17:45 But honestly, the one thing I think everybody can agree that they like about K-pop and music of that genre is that you'll have one comeback that is soft and sweet and kind of cute, and then you'll come back with a, ooh, I'm a bad B, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then you'll go to another era that's a little bit like, ooh, I'm mysterious, no one knows what's happening.
00:17:45 --> 00:17:48 It feels like they went from soft and sweet and touch
00:17:48 --> 00:18:14 to oh yeah we're bad bees to we're still bad bees and we haven't gone any further than that yeah i like like i think peeking up is a if you're a fan of cat's eye it's a it's a it's a good song you'll probably like it i like the second verse because it that's the it's like it's women empowerment and that one like i i'll kill him for you not like
00:18:15 --> 00:18:37 yeah yeah for me it's it's it's it's a it's a good song but it's just like it's just not really part two for me yeah yeah i agree with you i think it makes sense that this is what they went for it's still brain rot and it's still kind of noisy i think i had said in our last review it's giving venga boys a little bit in that dance break exactly
00:18:41 --> 00:18:43 But Vanga Boys are iconic.
00:18:43 --> 00:18:44 Let's be very clear.
00:18:44 --> 00:18:46 That was a Six Flags theme song for years.
00:18:47 --> 00:18:49 We will not dismiss Vanga Boys in this house.
00:18:49 --> 00:18:49 No.
00:18:50 --> 00:18:51 That's not a bad reference at all.
00:18:52 --> 00:18:53 That's a positive reference.
00:18:53 --> 00:18:54 I agree.
00:18:54 --> 00:18:55 Yeah.
00:18:55 --> 00:18:59 Because the song is made for performance, and it performed the crap out of it.
00:18:59 --> 00:19:04 So having now gotten used to the sonics and seen a few performances, it has grown on me.
00:19:04 --> 00:19:07 I do think some of the melodies in there are decent, right?
00:19:08 --> 00:19:11 And I do like the way they choreograph the whole thing.
00:19:11 --> 00:19:12 I like how the verses highlight.
00:19:12 --> 00:19:23 You just remember that dance break, which is basically the chorus, is amazingly executed with the... Yeah, it's so intricate and they kill it, you know?
00:19:23 --> 00:19:23 Yes.
00:19:24 --> 00:19:26 So I've said this with so many Cat's Eye songs.
00:19:26 --> 00:19:29 I'm probably going to say it again for other ones that are on this EP.
00:19:30 --> 00:19:33 I'm happy watching them perform it.
00:19:33 --> 00:19:33 Yeah.
00:19:33 --> 00:19:35 Will I listen to the song?
00:19:35 --> 00:19:35 No.
00:19:37 --> 00:19:38 That's valid.
00:19:38 --> 00:19:38 Yeah.
00:19:38 --> 00:19:39 Okay.
00:19:39 --> 00:19:39 Ooh.
00:19:39 --> 00:19:40 So what is everyone's scores?
00:19:42 --> 00:19:43 Mine is a seven.
00:19:43 --> 00:19:46 I don't, it's okay for what Cat's Eye is.
00:19:46 --> 00:19:49 I agree.
00:19:49 --> 00:19:49 A seven is good.
00:19:50 --> 00:19:51 I'll go 6.5.
00:19:51 --> 00:19:56 Points were made, and so we will move on to the next song, which is Animals.
00:19:58 --> 00:20:04 And this was done by Ed Sheeran, John McCade, Blake Slatky, and Omer Fetty.
00:20:04 --> 00:20:11 And as of this recording, the song is at number 24 on the Billboard Hot 100 and number 16 on the UK official singles chart.
00:20:11 --> 00:20:16 And Ed Sheeran apparently reached out to the group because he wanted to write a song specifically for Cat's Eye.
00:20:17 --> 00:20:21 And in the music video, it features a cameo from Demi Moore.
00:20:29 --> 00:20:31 Chris, you and I have had our opinions about Ed Sheeran on the show.
00:20:32 --> 00:20:35 Like, anytime we see his name pop up, I feel like you and I have words.
00:20:36 --> 00:20:40 So, not with each other, but just about.
00:20:40 --> 00:20:45 Wait, for context, what are some of these opinions about Ed Sheeran?
00:20:45 --> 00:20:46 Chris.
00:20:47 --> 00:20:49 Because I feel like you may have said them again here.
00:20:50 --> 00:20:52 Because I think it's...
00:20:52 --> 00:20:56 Okay, well, what I'll say is he's a very signature melodic style.
00:20:59 --> 00:21:07 And, um, uh, would you like to add to that Chantel?
00:21:08 --> 00:21:08 Yes.
00:21:08 --> 00:21:09 Right.
00:21:09 --> 00:21:09 Okay.
00:21:10 --> 00:21:11 So don't get me wrong.
00:21:11 --> 00:21:18 When Ed was hungry back in the day, when he had a dollar, he made a dollar out of 15 cents back in the day with the A team and all the other stuff like that.
00:21:19 --> 00:21:20 He has something to prove.
00:21:21 --> 00:21:23 I feel like right now there is nothing to prove.
00:21:23 --> 00:21:25 There's like, hey, I can write a song, so let me do that.
00:21:25 --> 00:21:26 You know what I'm saying?
00:21:27 --> 00:21:27 I'm trying to think.
00:21:27 --> 00:21:33 Ryan Tedder had said at one point that there are songwriters who sit there and go, is this the hit that we're writing?
00:21:33 --> 00:21:35 And you're like, we worked really hard on this one song.
00:21:35 --> 00:21:36 Why is this not it?
00:21:36 --> 00:21:38 And then this really basic song would be amazing.
00:21:39 --> 00:21:42 With Ed, for me, a lot of his songs sound like Ed wrote it.
00:21:42 --> 00:21:44 Ed could have did the song himself.
00:21:45 --> 00:21:47 This isn't something he was thinking about six members in a group or five.
00:21:48 --> 00:21:50 Whenever he received the brief.
00:21:51 --> 00:21:55 I don't hear, I wrote this for a girl group.
00:21:56 --> 00:21:56 Yeah.
00:21:56 --> 00:22:04 That I think is like amazing and deserves like vocals and background things and interesting sonics.
00:22:04 --> 00:22:07 It just feels like I want to write a song for the hottest thing right now.
00:22:07 --> 00:22:07 What's the hottest thing?
00:22:07 --> 00:22:08 Cat's Eye.
00:22:08 --> 00:22:32 that i could possibly get away with it because they did gabriella you know and for me like no shade to him or all the shade whatever um super talented but not the right songwriter for cat's eye but that being said though this song is not bad and that is a testament to his songwriting capabilities the melodies i enjoy thank god verse one verse two are not the same the chorus however
00:22:33 --> 00:22:35 My goodness, that doesn't go anywhere.
00:22:37 --> 00:22:39 The bridge, super fun.
00:22:39 --> 00:22:40 Oh, yeah, come on, dance.
00:22:41 --> 00:22:42 The bridge, super fun.
00:22:42 --> 00:22:45 I was like, okay, I love the distortion on the voices.
00:22:45 --> 00:22:49 I appreciate the twang that some of the singers were taking.
00:22:49 --> 00:22:51 Like Danny's second verse shuts it down.
00:22:51 --> 00:22:52 I love it.
00:22:52 --> 00:22:52 I enjoy that.
00:22:53 --> 00:22:57 Interestingly enough, in the film, Laura was really trying to give some oomph to the chorus.
00:22:57 --> 00:22:57 Yes.
00:22:57 --> 00:22:59 But the vocal producers restrained her.
00:23:00 --> 00:23:01 This is crazy to me.
00:23:01 --> 00:23:04 Because as an indie artist, no one can tell me what not to add oomph to.
00:23:04 --> 00:23:07 I change my verse, my choruses quite often.
00:23:07 --> 00:23:09 In fact, I even changed the words in my last choruses.
00:23:10 --> 00:23:11 That's the thing that I do, right?
00:23:11 --> 00:23:16 How is it that you're going to tell a Cat's Eye member not to make it sound more like Cat's Eye?
00:23:16 --> 00:23:16 Yeah.
00:23:17 --> 00:23:21 When she's in the group and she's trying to give you something and you're like, don't do that.
00:23:21 --> 00:23:23 Like, yes, Laura can give us a little bit of a whistle.
00:23:23 --> 00:23:23 No.
00:23:23 --> 00:23:25 And it's like, OK, thank you so much for that.
00:23:26 --> 00:23:26 Yes.
00:23:26 --> 00:23:31 Sophia can get a little bit, you know, give us a belt that feels nice and clean and pure.
00:23:31 --> 00:23:34 But like, if you're only leaving it for those moments.
00:23:35 --> 00:23:41 When we have songs like Flo's Leak It, where they are singing up and down, Laura can hit some of those notes.
00:23:42 --> 00:23:43 Sophia can give you something.
00:23:44 --> 00:23:45 Why are we not harmonizing?
00:23:45 --> 00:23:46 We have so many girls in this group.
00:23:46 --> 00:23:48 But aside from that, I get it.
00:23:48 --> 00:23:50 It's like, you got to make a good pop record.
00:23:50 --> 00:23:54 These girls could fart on a track and the fans would love it.
00:23:54 --> 00:23:57 Enough of this whole, it's not going to be a good pop record if we don't.
00:23:58 --> 00:24:00 You know, you guys know what I'm saying, right?
00:24:00 --> 00:24:00 Like, I don't get it.
00:24:00 --> 00:24:01 Yeah, yeah.
00:24:01 --> 00:24:02 They're the biggest girl group in the world.
00:24:02 --> 00:24:06 And you're telling me they can't do some on the track really quickly.
00:24:07 --> 00:24:08 The fans would love it.
00:24:08 --> 00:24:09 Yeah.
00:24:09 --> 00:24:09 I mean, here's the thing.
00:24:09 --> 00:24:12 Ed Sheeran's not like a big riffer either, right?
00:24:12 --> 00:24:17 So he is quite kind of straightforward with the way he does his melodies.
00:24:18 --> 00:24:22 Like, if you let's do a lot of his songs, like, yeah, he's not like doing a bunch of stuff with it.
00:24:22 --> 00:24:23 So I think that may be part of it.
00:24:23 --> 00:24:27 But you're right in that the chorus there is just no emotion at all.
00:24:28 --> 00:24:29 There's no sass.
00:24:29 --> 00:24:30 Like, there's nothing.
00:24:30 --> 00:24:31 There's no growl to it.
00:24:31 --> 00:24:34 Like, you do get that with, you know, Daniela's part.
00:24:34 --> 00:24:37 You do get that with Sophia, you know, in the bridge.
00:24:37 --> 00:24:37 Yeah.
00:24:38 --> 00:24:40 And Laura is doing what she can with that pre-chorus.
00:24:40 --> 00:24:40 She sounds great.
00:24:41 --> 00:24:41 Yeah.
00:24:41 --> 00:24:47 But the chorus is so... Like, it doesn't sound like they're singing about anything.
00:24:48 --> 00:24:52 And the fact that it's a double chorus where they repeat the same four lines over again.
00:24:52 --> 00:24:53 Oh, yeah.
00:24:53 --> 00:24:56 And they don't add anything to the second go-around.
00:24:56 --> 00:24:57 No extra harmonies.
00:24:57 --> 00:24:58 No extra BGVs.
00:24:59 --> 00:25:07 I sound like a broken record at this point because I say this about Cat's Eye so much, but the fact that they don't take full advantage of having six voices...
00:25:08 --> 00:25:10 And we know they can sing, you know?
00:25:10 --> 00:25:11 It's so crazy.
00:25:11 --> 00:25:15 And that's why I want to, we all keep talking about background vocals.
00:25:15 --> 00:25:18 Like, how are they supposed to sing in harmony and dance the way they do?
00:25:18 --> 00:25:20 Like, I think that that has to play into that.
00:25:21 --> 00:25:22 Like, during live performances.
00:25:22 --> 00:25:23 Okay, yeah.
00:25:23 --> 00:25:29 You have Laura and Sophia and like, Yoon Chae, who are like the singers of the group, right?
00:25:29 --> 00:25:29 Mm-hmm.
00:25:30 --> 00:25:34 you can't do those dances they need to require to do.
00:25:34 --> 00:25:38 Like even this, even the little animal move, they have to move that diaphragm.
00:25:38 --> 00:25:39 That's already hard enough.
00:25:39 --> 00:25:41 Like nobody.
00:25:41 --> 00:25:41 Yeah.
00:25:41 --> 00:25:43 They got to snap the shoulder back.
00:25:43 --> 00:25:44 Yeah, exactly.
00:25:44 --> 00:25:45 That's hard to do.
00:25:45 --> 00:25:49 And then, so if you want it to sound good, I think, and that's why it's like, there's no harmonies.
00:25:49 --> 00:25:50 There's no anything.
00:25:50 --> 00:25:52 I mean, this is not a defending the song either.
00:25:52 --> 00:25:53 It's just more of an explanation.
00:25:53 --> 00:25:58 I feel as to why they're not giving you more harmonies in their songs.
00:25:58 --> 00:25:58 Yeah.
00:25:58 --> 00:25:59 Oh, interesting take.
00:25:59 --> 00:26:01 You know, I can appreciate that to a certain extent.
00:26:01 --> 00:26:03 But, you know, backtrack, y'all.
00:26:03 --> 00:26:07 I will say for debut, Megan and Sophia harmonize with each other.
00:26:11 --> 00:26:14 So they're both singing some part of a harmony together.
00:26:14 --> 00:26:16 And I haven't heard it since, though.
00:26:16 --> 00:26:17 So...
00:26:18 --> 00:26:19 In My Way.
00:26:20 --> 00:26:21 You might be right, right, My Way.
00:26:21 --> 00:26:22 In My Way, they did it.
00:26:22 --> 00:26:23 And I did it in My Way.
00:26:23 --> 00:26:25 They used to do the harmonies in My Way.
00:26:25 --> 00:26:28 But My Way is a standing song.
00:26:28 --> 00:26:32 And we walked one stage into the stage and walked the other end of the stage, you know?
00:26:32 --> 00:26:33 Yeah, yeah.
00:26:33 --> 00:26:34 It's so interesting.
00:26:34 --> 00:26:35 Like I said, this is not coming from a place of hate, guys.
00:26:36 --> 00:26:42 I will say, though, I think the song is so interesting for this group specifically because they like to tell this line of like, are y'all, what's up with y'all?
00:26:42 --> 00:26:43 Because it's giving sapphic.
00:26:43 --> 00:26:45 I'm not mad at that at all.
00:26:45 --> 00:26:46 It was just so funny because I was like,
00:26:47 --> 00:26:49 Who's she?
00:26:49 --> 00:26:49 Who's the animal?
00:26:50 --> 00:26:50 Which one?
00:26:51 --> 00:26:56 Because you can do this whole like, it's about someone coming out of their shell and you can see the other side of them.
00:26:56 --> 00:27:00 And I'm like, a woman singing this about another woman girl, let's call it what it is.
00:27:00 --> 00:27:02 It's okay at this point.
00:27:02 --> 00:27:04 I do appreciate that for real.
00:27:05 --> 00:27:09 And also, is this album called Wild because of this song?
00:27:09 --> 00:27:10 I guess.
00:27:10 --> 00:27:12 Like they cut this first or something?
00:27:12 --> 00:27:14 I think it's wild for many other reasons.
00:27:14 --> 00:27:15 Oh, yeah.
00:27:19 --> 00:27:19 Oh, okay.
00:27:19 --> 00:27:21 Well, what did you think of the music video, Jasmine?
00:27:22 --> 00:27:22 Oh, yes.
00:27:23 --> 00:27:24 I thought it was cute.
00:27:24 --> 00:27:27 Again, it was just the whole concept from beginning to end.
00:27:27 --> 00:27:31 It felt like they put Gabriela on the mood board for their own thing.
00:27:31 --> 00:27:36 And I was just like, from the way it sounded, from the visuals, it was just like...
00:27:37 --> 00:27:39 So now we're like two for two.
00:27:39 --> 00:27:42 Like, ah, the music video was fine.
00:27:42 --> 00:27:44 The cameo from Demi was really cool.
00:27:45 --> 00:27:45 Uh-huh.
00:27:45 --> 00:27:51 Like, them being like businessmen, but they're like coming out as animals, like, because like they just can't hold themselves back.
00:27:52 --> 00:27:53 I was just like, I don't know.
00:27:54 --> 00:27:54 I don't know.
00:27:54 --> 00:27:55 I just...
00:27:56 --> 00:28:00 Everything about, like, it's just, I think it's just like a sense of disappointment.
00:28:00 --> 00:28:07 Because it's just like they had such a, not saying, listen, I already said that I think that that could exist for very much longer.
00:28:07 --> 00:28:10 So, but it feels like a funeral.
00:28:10 --> 00:28:12 Feels like watching a death in real time with them.
00:28:13 --> 00:28:13 Oh, okay.
00:28:13 --> 00:28:14 That's valid.
00:28:14 --> 00:28:16 I get what you're saying because I kind of felt that way.
00:28:16 --> 00:28:20 I think I said, like, I hope they can get at least one full, like, 12-track album from them.
00:28:21 --> 00:28:22 Music video, same guy.
00:28:22 --> 00:28:26 Cody, he did their Pinky Up and their Gnarly, if I'm not mistaken.
00:28:26 --> 00:28:27 Okay.
00:28:27 --> 00:28:30 I can—he has a great vision for a lot of things.
00:28:30 --> 00:28:35 I think the age group that the girls cater to, they don't need visuals that they're getting.
00:28:35 --> 00:28:36 Like, I love the dancing.
00:28:36 --> 00:28:38 That Red Room, fire, love that.
00:28:38 --> 00:28:42 The acting shots are a little bit interesting, and I mean that in the way where I'm just mildly uncomfortable.
00:28:43 --> 00:28:45 Not because it's like, it's bad.
00:28:45 --> 00:28:49 It's just that because of the visuals and the B-roll that they're getting, right?
00:28:49 --> 00:28:56 So you have a bunch of young girls dancing for stuffy suited execs eating the chicken that the young girls are sponsored by.
00:28:56 --> 00:28:57 Like that makes sense.
00:28:57 --> 00:28:59 It's like, wow, these guys are making money.
00:28:59 --> 00:29:00 You know, ha ha ha.
00:29:01 --> 00:29:07 But then the music video with the acting points, like Laura in the pipe and the hand around the rent, like around the pipe.
00:29:07 --> 00:29:09 I was just like, what is that?
00:29:10 --> 00:29:14 You know, Megan coming in and taking off the dress and kind of trying to riz Yoon Chae up as she said it was.
00:29:15 --> 00:29:19 So moments like that, I'm like, I just don't care for the story that you're trying to tell.
00:29:20 --> 00:29:20 Yeah.
00:29:21 --> 00:29:24 If you are thinking animal, it's okay to be a little literal, right?
00:29:24 --> 00:29:27 Like maybe one of them is secretly a freaking werewolf or one's a meerkat.
00:29:27 --> 00:29:32 I don't care, but it can't be like some weird, like, let me fix your pipe, baby.
00:29:32 --> 00:29:33 Like that's weird.
00:29:33 --> 00:29:34 Yeah.
00:29:34 --> 00:29:36 For me, moments like that, I'm like, that's unnecessary.
00:29:36 --> 00:29:38 I think Boyzai was super fun.
00:29:38 --> 00:29:41 I think them cross-dressing is hilarious.
00:29:41 --> 00:29:43 The girls did say that they had like more creative input.
00:29:43 --> 00:29:45 And I'm like, you guys didn't write the treatment.
00:29:45 --> 00:29:48 You may have selected the lingerie you were wearing in that one ridiculous scene in the closet.
00:29:48 --> 00:29:49 Yeah.
00:29:49 --> 00:29:51 but it doesn't mean that you've had a say.
00:29:51 --> 00:29:59 And it's so weird because it's like, yeah, they can say we're okay with it, but it just doesn't look okay, especially for their fans who are like super young.
00:29:59 --> 00:30:00 Yeah.
00:30:00 --> 00:30:06 There's been a lot of commentary, I think, with this era and kind of the sexualization of the girls.
00:30:06 --> 00:30:07 Because now the Yoon-jae is 18.
00:30:10 --> 00:30:12 The clothes will come off, I guess, you know.
00:30:12 --> 00:30:14 Because I agree with you.
00:30:15 --> 00:30:18 I saw a really funny photo earlier because, you know, they're doing Target signings.
00:30:18 --> 00:30:19 Yeah.
00:30:20 --> 00:30:27 And it's Lara like doing a really like smexy pose and it's just like a little kids like all behind her waiting in line.
00:30:28 --> 00:30:31 Have you seen the animal like the celebrity substitute teacher thing?
00:30:31 --> 00:30:31 Yes.
00:30:32 --> 00:30:34 They were in the lunchroom like.
00:30:34 --> 00:30:38 Yeah, the lunchroom like writhing all over the lunch tables in the kitchen.
00:30:38 --> 00:30:41 While these kids are like in the back like.
00:30:41 --> 00:31:09 yeah I just want to scoop up like they're walking through with trays and wearing like little gems on their faces it just does not make sense it's it's the congruency is lacking it doesn't mean they're bad people it's meant when you're young when I was like 19 27 years old I was like oh I'm gonna be so sexy and so you kind of like I watched videos of me performing for other singers when I was background days I was like I would have fired me if that was me I was doing too much but I thought I was doing the right thing or like the thing that made me feel more authentic but
00:31:10 --> 00:31:13 It's a little too much, I think, in terms of things like that.
00:31:14 --> 00:31:15 Yeah, that's fair.
00:31:15 --> 00:31:19 I will say the performances that they've done so far, though, have been quite good.
00:31:19 --> 00:31:21 They did look amazing at Jimmy Fallon.
00:31:21 --> 00:31:23 Yeah.
00:31:23 --> 00:31:28 I will say the whole kind of leaving Sofia's vocals there and just kind of leaving the space open.
00:31:29 --> 00:31:39 It looks so messy because look for me, like when you go on these shows, like I said this a lot, like you're, you're trying to appeal to your non-fans.
00:31:39 --> 00:31:40 Yeah.
00:31:40 --> 00:31:44 You want new people to watch this and come on board.
00:31:45 --> 00:31:49 And I'm pretty sure anyone who watched it, they're like, why are they not singing half the chorus?
00:31:49 --> 00:31:50 Like what is happening?
00:31:50 --> 00:31:54 Like, you know, it was just, it's just confusing to watch it that way.
00:31:54 --> 00:31:55 Uh, but yeah,
00:31:56 --> 00:31:57 They kill it.
00:31:57 --> 00:32:04 And I will say with the choreography, I actually love the dance routine.
00:32:05 --> 00:32:05 It's simpler.
00:32:06 --> 00:32:12 It's simpler than what they used to do in terms of because it's kind of a constant repeat.
00:32:13 --> 00:32:17 And it's a more kind of it's just not as like chaotic as everything else.
00:32:17 --> 00:32:22 However, as we know, as we've seen some from the behind the scenes stuff, it actually is even harder to clean that.
00:32:22 --> 00:32:22 Yes.
00:32:22 --> 00:32:32 Because everyone needs to be at the exact same angle because if you're slightly off when it's like this, you can see it even more clearly than if it's something chaotic like in Pinky Up.
00:32:32 --> 00:32:35 So, I mean, they do an amazing job.
00:32:35 --> 00:32:36 I love the bridge dancing.
00:32:36 --> 00:32:37 Oh my god, give me some jazz.
00:32:38 --> 00:32:39 Who choreographed it?
00:32:39 --> 00:32:41 Was it Sohan Grant?
00:32:41 --> 00:32:42 Same guys.
00:32:43 --> 00:32:45 I'm shocked that Grant even knows how to do simple.
00:32:46 --> 00:32:46 Good for Grant.
00:32:47 --> 00:32:48 Grant is a little extra.
00:32:48 --> 00:32:51 He did say his style is divisive.
00:32:52 --> 00:32:52 A little?
00:32:52 --> 00:32:54 Don't do that.
00:32:54 --> 00:32:54 Be nice.
00:32:55 --> 00:32:56 I am being nice.
00:32:56 --> 00:32:58 And I don't think he would appreciate you calling him a little.
00:32:58 --> 00:32:59 Anything.
00:32:59 --> 00:32:59 Anything.
00:33:01 --> 00:33:03 I think he knows exactly what he does and how he does.
00:33:03 --> 00:33:05 And I think he likes being a lot.
00:33:05 --> 00:33:06 So that's what I'm saying.
00:33:06 --> 00:33:06 I don't think so too.
00:33:06 --> 00:33:08 I think so too.
00:33:09 --> 00:33:10 I think he likes to be big.
00:33:10 --> 00:33:10 Yeah.
00:33:10 --> 00:33:13 So I think him and Soharic are like just two peas in a pod.
00:33:13 --> 00:33:19 I just kind of balance each other out because it is very like nuanced movement, which I do appreciate.
00:33:19 --> 00:33:22 It felt like Hotel Transylvania were in certain parts, which I'm not mad at.
00:33:22 --> 00:33:25 But yeah, this song has been compared to a lot of Halloween songs.
00:33:25 --> 00:33:44 but harmony yeah but harmony we've heard here with harmony i've heard like someone said what's this monster man so even though the song sounds a little scary our scores that way i'll give it an eight mine's also an eight it's not a bad song i still have my feelings about ed sheeran but it's an eight yeah i'm gonna give it like a 7.5
00:33:45 --> 00:33:45 I understand that.
00:33:46 --> 00:33:47 Yeah.
00:33:47 --> 00:33:47 Okay.
00:33:48 --> 00:33:56 Next up is Hootie Fruity done by Daniela Gonzalez, Rachel West, Kiddo AI, and Tom Bridges.
00:33:57 --> 00:34:09 And the group has said they were heavily inspired by Britney Spears' I'm a Slave for You music video for this visual.
00:34:09 --> 00:34:11 It is one of their best earworms they've ever made.
00:34:11 --> 00:34:11 Ever.
00:34:12 --> 00:34:12 Ever.
00:34:13 --> 00:34:14 Hootie fruity!
00:34:14 --> 00:34:16 Like, hootie fruity on the floor.
00:34:16 --> 00:34:18 Hootie fruity, give me more.
00:34:18 --> 00:34:20 Hootie fruity, da da da.
00:34:20 --> 00:34:22 Hootie fruity, it's, it's, it gives.
00:34:23 --> 00:34:28 Hootie fruit, it just gives earworm and like, it just like, it's a good pace.
00:34:28 --> 00:34:30 No matter what, you end up moving your body to it.
00:34:30 --> 00:34:35 The song itself is just, it is Dr. Seuss for, you know, Brazil.
00:34:35 --> 00:34:36 You know what I'm saying?
00:34:36 --> 00:34:37 Like, it's just.
00:34:38 --> 00:34:39 It's fine.
00:34:39 --> 00:34:40 Yeah.
00:34:40 --> 00:34:47 The song, it's like, that's like, y'all are like, listen, Katsai fans, please, please don't come for me.
00:34:47 --> 00:34:49 I think them girls are okay.
00:34:49 --> 00:34:49 You know?
00:34:50 --> 00:34:50 Yeah.
00:34:50 --> 00:34:54 I mean, listen, the jokes, the jokes, we write, I write jokes in my, in our script all the time.
00:34:54 --> 00:34:55 So it's okay.
00:34:55 --> 00:34:56 It's fine.
00:34:56 --> 00:34:57 I accept you.
00:34:58 --> 00:35:00 It's, it's, I do like it that it's,
00:35:01 --> 00:35:04 It's like an elevated gnarly a little bit.
00:35:04 --> 00:35:10 To me, it's, it's, and I like how it's sonically, it's not something we've heard from them over and over again.
00:35:10 --> 00:35:12 Is it like this weird hyper pop they're living in?
00:35:13 --> 00:35:16 Yes, but at least it's a little, like a little bit different.
00:35:16 --> 00:35:17 Yeah.
00:35:19 --> 00:35:20 That's valid.
00:35:20 --> 00:35:29 You know, the songwriters on this one have worked with XG, Jenny, or was it the Jenny song?
00:35:30 --> 00:35:31 Yeah, basically.
00:35:31 --> 00:35:32 That's a great song.
00:35:33 --> 00:35:33 Right.
00:35:33 --> 00:35:35 So they've worked with a lot of people and other K-pop artists.
00:35:35 --> 00:35:39 So in terms of catchiness and like what you're saying in terms of earworm, they know it works.
00:35:39 --> 00:35:42 And this is another formula that happens like in K-pop, pop and any kind of music.
00:35:42 --> 00:35:47 Like if you know something that works as a sound, that's really catchy, use it.
00:35:47 --> 00:35:51 Like when I was training with a songwriter, she was like strange.
00:35:51 --> 00:35:53 They liked my song because I had a strange title.
00:35:53 --> 00:35:55 Like it was something really silly, like, you know.
00:35:55 --> 00:36:22 nookie or blah blah blah she's like they love that title they can work with it so hooty fruity to me when i listen to it like i'm a bailey funk fan like i like anita is she like the most pop you can get there's like pablo vitar there's a gloria groove there's a bunch of people in the pop uh bailey funk thing that i feel like especially anita could have possibly passed on the song not saying that this sounds like a rejected demo i will say it doesn't sound like a complete rejected demo but like anita
00:36:23 --> 00:36:26 If you've ever heard her project Funk Generation, banger.
00:36:26 --> 00:36:30 Like she has this one song where she literally says, I know you want me.
00:36:30 --> 00:36:32 I know you want me hard.
00:36:32 --> 00:36:38 And at the song, she's not saying nothing but that on that song, but the beat is nasty and she performs the crap out of it.
00:36:38 --> 00:36:38 Right.
00:36:38 --> 00:36:42 So I'm used to kind of like this kind of vibe and I appreciate it.
00:36:42 --> 00:36:53 And I think the tough thing about this group is that because they do have a younger audience, any lyrics regarding food or glitter or weird things like that, it sounds nonsensical.
00:36:53 --> 00:36:54 But this song is nasty.
00:36:54 --> 00:36:55 And here is why.
00:36:56 --> 00:36:58 Huti Fruiti could have been called hoochie coochie.
00:36:58 --> 00:36:59 Okay?
00:36:59 --> 00:37:00 Now, hear me out.
00:37:00 --> 00:37:02 This is not me calling them hoochies or anything like that.
00:37:02 --> 00:37:09 But if I were trying to actually get a word into your mind for another body part, hooty fruity works, okay?
00:37:09 --> 00:37:13 Mochi drenched in chocolata, my soft bits covered in syrup.
00:37:13 --> 00:37:14 That's nasty, okay?
00:37:15 --> 00:37:18 All night long, you want it on your tongue all the way every day.
00:37:18 --> 00:37:19 This fruity is pricey.
00:37:19 --> 00:37:21 So no broke boys here, okay?
00:37:21 --> 00:37:22 So the whole thing is...
00:37:22 --> 00:37:23 This is pricey.
00:37:24 --> 00:37:25 It's upper class.
00:37:25 --> 00:37:26 It has water you haven't even heard of.
00:37:26 --> 00:37:27 You can't afford it.
00:37:27 --> 00:37:29 Those smoothies that you can't afford.
00:37:29 --> 00:37:31 You can't, you cannot touch this.
00:37:31 --> 00:37:35 Uchi, Uchi, Luchi, Hootie, Fruity, Nookie, Unada, Uchiwally.
00:37:35 --> 00:37:36 You can't touch it.
00:37:36 --> 00:37:38 Like, that's what they're saying in this song.
00:37:38 --> 00:37:47 But unfortunately, because it is mildly like 24-carat, La Boo Boo, you know, like lyrics, it sounds quote unquote stupid.
00:37:47 --> 00:37:50 Now for me, I'm like, I'm here for all this little innuendo.
00:37:51 --> 00:37:52 Yeah, it's sneaky.
00:37:53 --> 00:37:59 But again, because you have these girls, quote unquote, faking an accent, singing in that, you know, this is a little accent.
00:37:59 --> 00:38:03 And, you know, it comes across as like, A, they might be trying too hard.
00:38:04 --> 00:38:05 B, this is stupid.
00:38:05 --> 00:38:06 I don't think it's stupid.
00:38:06 --> 00:38:07 I do enjoy the song.
00:38:07 --> 00:38:13 Like, this is right up my alley in terms of like random popping your your poop, your butt and all that.
00:38:13 --> 00:38:13 Yeah.
00:38:14 --> 00:38:15 I like stuff like this.
00:38:15 --> 00:38:20 However, if I were writing the song, if you're going to sit there and have this hootie cootie, wait, what's it called?
00:38:20 --> 00:38:21 Hoochie?
00:38:21 --> 00:38:22 Hoochie fruity.
00:38:24 --> 00:38:24 Hoochie fruity.
00:38:25 --> 00:38:27 If you're going to sit there and have this oochie wally,
00:38:29 --> 00:38:47 going on right bang bang exactly why not sit there and have a gang vocal at the end of the song right like either who who who i know you want it now what something give me something to really drive this song home so it feels bigger it feels like a bunch of women saying you can't enter here you you will not pass give me lord of the reins
00:38:48 --> 00:38:49 Give me Lord of the Rings, you know?
00:38:49 --> 00:38:50 That's just me.
00:38:50 --> 00:38:54 That's just how I would write a song, especially with how powerful and loud this is.
00:38:54 --> 00:38:55 It would go off at a festival.
00:38:55 --> 00:38:58 Like, even that gang vocal, what the fans can yell.
00:38:58 --> 00:38:59 But that's just me.
00:38:59 --> 00:39:01 I mean, I'm the one in my mom's basement.
00:39:01 --> 00:39:02 The other one's writing for Cat's Eye.
00:39:02 --> 00:39:06 But my thing is, I think the song could be taken up another level, especially with the ridiculousness.
00:39:07 --> 00:39:08 Make it a little longer.
00:39:08 --> 00:39:09 Make the ending really stronger.
00:39:09 --> 00:39:10 That's it.
00:39:11 --> 00:39:11 Yeah.
00:39:11 --> 00:39:14 Yeah, I would say for me, it is giving demo.
00:39:14 --> 00:39:17 Like, I don't think they wrote this for Cat's Eye.
00:39:17 --> 00:39:17 Come on now.
00:39:18 --> 00:39:18 Oh, that's out.
00:39:18 --> 00:39:18 You know?
00:39:19 --> 00:39:20 And I do think it is...
00:39:21 --> 00:39:25 Like, as an A&R person, I'm, like, going for kind of a Brazilian funk thing.
00:39:26 --> 00:39:26 It makes sense.
00:39:26 --> 00:39:28 Like, the South American fans are super passionate.
00:39:28 --> 00:39:31 Like, that sound is really huge right now.
00:39:32 --> 00:39:34 They are a global girl group.
00:39:34 --> 00:39:41 So, them kind of embracing kind of one of the big kind of sounds going on in the world right now is great.
00:39:42 --> 00:39:45 I did see some comments online about fans that were like, well...
00:39:45 --> 00:39:52 We haven't explored some of the members' actual cultures yet, so why are we doing Brazilian right now?
00:39:52 --> 00:39:56 And plus, they are putting on that accent, which I think was also quite divisive.
00:39:56 --> 00:39:58 But the production's great.
00:39:58 --> 00:39:59 That bass hits super hard.
00:39:59 --> 00:40:03 This, I'm sure, sounds amazing in a club and out.
00:40:04 --> 00:40:09 And their kind of nonchalant vocal delivery that apparently their vocal producer loves works for this song.
00:40:10 --> 00:40:33 you know because them being this kind of dismissive kind of con confident it works for this type of thing um so yeah if this isn't like the brain rot that gnarly and pinky up are so i'll take that and again they performed the crap out of this at the end of video they're performing the crap out of it so i enjoy it for for what it is you know um i will say though for the video
00:40:35 --> 00:40:38 I do love that Slave For You was an inspiration because obviously that's iconic.
00:40:38 --> 00:40:41 It is also giving girls a loud, long, hot summer with the lighting.
00:40:41 --> 00:40:43 Yeah, with the lighting.
00:40:43 --> 00:40:46 Or even like Troye Sivan's Rush.
00:40:47 --> 00:40:47 Oh, yeah.
00:40:47 --> 00:40:50 That sweaty, hot, like summer dancing.
00:40:50 --> 00:40:50 Yeah.
00:40:50 --> 00:40:51 Yeah.
00:40:51 --> 00:40:59 There has been a lot of talk, though, about how this song and the music video is just proof of Hybe really pushing Danny forward.
00:41:00 --> 00:41:00 Yeah.
00:41:02 --> 00:41:04 She starts the music video pretty much.
00:41:04 --> 00:41:06 She's constantly in the center of the dancing.
00:41:06 --> 00:41:10 Like she's constantly like being pushed forward.
00:41:11 --> 00:41:13 Are we talking about the music video now?
00:41:13 --> 00:41:13 Is that okay?
00:41:14 --> 00:41:14 Yeah.
00:41:14 --> 00:41:14 Okay.
00:41:15 --> 00:41:15 We say space.
00:41:15 --> 00:41:15 Go ahead.
00:41:18 --> 00:41:20 I understand why we have product placement.
00:41:20 --> 00:41:20 I get it.
00:41:21 --> 00:41:22 We need the money.
00:41:22 --> 00:41:23 The Tic Tac one was fine.
00:41:24 --> 00:41:25 I thought it was a bizarre place to put it.
00:41:25 --> 00:41:26 It was fine.
00:41:26 --> 00:41:29 The slime one kills me.
00:41:29 --> 00:41:30 It kills me.
00:41:31 --> 00:41:31 I hate it.
00:41:32 --> 00:41:36 Because it doesn't feel like it naturally fits in that part of the music video.
00:41:36 --> 00:41:37 Hard pulling it up and going...
00:41:38 --> 00:41:53 in the first scene i just and it's slime doesn't have anything to do like with it unless it was like a fruit looking slime and she pulled that apart i'd be like okay i can get with it but like even then even then what adult plays with slime
00:41:53 --> 00:41:54 Like, I mean, there are some things.
00:41:54 --> 00:41:55 Hang on.
00:41:55 --> 00:41:56 I play with the slam.
00:41:57 --> 00:42:01 You know, kids, there's a thing called SLU-MOO in Soho, New York City.
00:42:01 --> 00:42:04 I don't see a bunch of adults lining up for that, right?
00:42:04 --> 00:42:07 So I think it was called Q-U-I, Bonkwee, whatever.
00:42:07 --> 00:42:08 It was called something.
00:42:09 --> 00:42:10 That should have not been the sponsorship.
00:42:10 --> 00:42:12 And it's like, it kind of sucks.
00:42:12 --> 00:42:17 But that these girls are being used as vehicles for that kind of thing.
00:42:17 --> 00:42:19 Because you had bows in Animal.
00:42:20 --> 00:42:22 You had the true fruit and pinky up.
00:42:23 --> 00:42:24 Why is it that you have... Tic-tac, whatever.
00:42:24 --> 00:42:25 Put it on your tongue.
00:42:25 --> 00:42:26 Okay, fine.
00:42:27 --> 00:42:28 But the slime, like you said, did not make sense.
00:42:28 --> 00:42:29 I feel like there's so many...
00:42:29 --> 00:42:32 They could have any sponsorship they want.
00:42:32 --> 00:42:33 They could have even done five gum again.
00:42:33 --> 00:42:35 They could have done anything.
00:42:35 --> 00:42:35 Yeah.
00:42:35 --> 00:42:39 They chose slime, which again goes to that whole thing of who are we selling to?
00:42:40 --> 00:42:41 If it's for kids, I totally get it.
00:42:41 --> 00:42:43 I wasn't into Britney.
00:42:43 --> 00:42:44 I had no business listening to Britney when I was a kid.
00:42:45 --> 00:42:45 I get that.
00:42:46 --> 00:42:49 But Britney wasn't like, I'm a slave for you.
00:42:49 --> 00:42:50 And she's like, here's this little boo-boo.
00:42:50 --> 00:42:51 It wasn't...
00:42:53 --> 00:42:55 You know, it wasn't like, here's Pauly Pocket right after.
00:42:55 --> 00:42:56 Right.
00:42:56 --> 00:42:57 It was just like, I'm a slave for you.
00:42:57 --> 00:42:58 Oh my God, Pepsi.
00:42:59 --> 00:42:59 Everyone drinks Pepsi.
00:43:00 --> 00:43:00 A Pepsi's a Pepsi.
00:43:01 --> 00:43:04 This one is... Who's playing with slime?
00:43:05 --> 00:43:06 It's a little funky.
00:43:07 --> 00:43:08 That was very, very like...
00:43:10 --> 00:43:11 Very like body parts...
00:43:12 --> 00:43:20 You know, and they have no problem with girls being all hottie, hottie, hottie, hottie, but it's a certain level of just like, why are we writhing on lawn chairs?
00:43:20 --> 00:43:25 And when they went down for that one floor part at the end, Yunshay slipped in the water.
00:43:25 --> 00:43:27 I was like, y'all, this is too much.
00:43:27 --> 00:43:31 And interestingly enough, Sophia is covered up.
00:43:32 --> 00:43:39 Yes, I I'm I'm happy at least that they have some kind of saying with because Daniela's out, Lara's out, Megan's still covered up.
00:43:40 --> 00:43:42 You and Shay has shorts on and a little top as well.
00:43:42 --> 00:43:47 But Sophia had legit a shawl on and I'm like, at least they have that kind of control.
00:43:48 --> 00:43:49 This is my theory, guys.
00:43:50 --> 00:43:51 This is why I think she really left.
00:43:51 --> 00:43:52 I don't think it's mental health at all.
00:43:53 --> 00:43:58 I think that she sees the overall sexualization of her group, and she no longer wishes to be overly sexualized.
00:43:59 --> 00:44:02 And she is slowly trying to make her way back from the group.
00:44:02 --> 00:44:04 Because it's not like the sexualization is going to slow down.
00:44:05 --> 00:44:06 I don't think so either.
00:44:06 --> 00:44:07 It's just that's why I think she's really...
00:44:08 --> 00:44:22 taking a break it's because she doesn't she doesn't want to be writhing in water and like for male gaze and male consumption because that's that's what that music video was for like yes we love to see a little booty shaking absolutely but like it was very male gaze-y
00:44:23 --> 00:44:37 Yes, Daniela in like a thong that basically showed her pelvis, most of it, is in the beginning in the motorcycle, her just looking off, it just feels very like, at what part, what part of Cat's Eye is like this girl power?
00:44:37 --> 00:44:38 And I thought, what was the whole point of Cat's Eye?
00:44:38 --> 00:44:39 Y'all were fairies?
00:44:39 --> 00:44:40 Like Cat's Eye world?
00:44:40 --> 00:44:41 Wasn't that...
00:44:41 --> 00:45:07 Oh yeah, like the whole Winx Hub thing I forgot about that Exactly, they used to be fairies And I miss the K-pop It used to be some type of fake creature It doesn't feel very femme gaze anymore It doesn't feel very much like You can be empowered and still be like There's certain shots, right, for music videos But I think a lot of them are very objective So again, which goes back to what the song is about It's about the hoochie Tootie fruity, tootie wally, ding dong You know?
00:45:07 --> 00:45:08 Yeah Yeah
00:45:09 --> 00:45:13 That being said, though, oh, my God, guys, you see the performance on Today Show?
00:45:14 --> 00:45:18 I did see the messy Chikorita leaf cutter.
00:45:19 --> 00:45:19 Yes.
00:45:20 --> 00:45:21 Air flip.
00:45:21 --> 00:45:22 The hair flipping.
00:45:22 --> 00:45:23 Laura's top breaking.
00:45:23 --> 00:45:25 I will say those girls can put on a show.
00:45:25 --> 00:45:25 I will.
00:45:26 --> 00:45:28 Golly, they have a lot to do.
00:45:28 --> 00:45:29 This is a lot.
00:45:30 --> 00:45:30 They put on.
00:45:30 --> 00:45:31 It's a lot.
00:45:31 --> 00:45:34 That D-Wine almost killed them, but it's okay.
00:45:34 --> 00:45:35 They made up for it.
00:45:36 --> 00:46:01 with the music video yeah it's interesting i see your point for sure i think when i was watching it like i said i compared it to slave for you and long hot summer which are both quite male gazey as well i think so i think for me i didn't actually think too much of that actually i was like okay that's the inspiration i guess that's kind of what they're going for um and i think i've kind of gotten used to the sexualization that they've been doing
00:46:02 --> 00:46:23 I'm gonna be honest like even when they perform it's a lot of yeah yeah touchy I don't know yeah on your tongue they tied their thigh when they get up girl I was clocking all the choreography before the video came out I was watching the cell phone videos the choreography is very much like you want this like I said I get it I totally get it but when you put slime in there that's what I'm like who is this for so
00:46:25 --> 00:46:32 It's interesting you both say kind of the male gaze thing because it's also their two main creatives are two gay men.
00:46:33 --> 00:46:36 And they're also doing their fantasy too, right?
00:46:36 --> 00:46:39 Because Britney, as you know, is a gay icon.
00:46:39 --> 00:46:39 Yeah.
00:46:39 --> 00:46:44 Like that video appeals to gays in a very different way compared to straight men.
00:46:45 --> 00:46:45 Yeah.
00:46:45 --> 00:46:51 But if they're also in charge, I also don't think they're actually thinking about it.
00:46:51 --> 00:47:09 in the same way that you are they're thinking about it in the way that they looked at their female pop stars and how they actually thought it was empowering right to have to see these women kind of doing that so it's interesting there's kind of a lot of layers to it yeah i think it is really empowering until we play with kids toys
00:47:11 --> 00:47:13 Yeah, that's when I got a little like, ooh.
00:47:13 --> 00:47:15 Like, that is such a big turn in the meal.
00:47:15 --> 00:47:18 Because you're like, okay, cool, we can get it.
00:47:18 --> 00:47:18 Okay.
00:47:18 --> 00:47:20 They slap each other's butts, whatever, shaking ass, doing all that.
00:47:21 --> 00:47:22 And then all of a sudden, slime?
00:47:23 --> 00:47:23 What?
00:47:24 --> 00:47:26 Yeah, I was like, who's this for?
00:47:27 --> 00:47:28 Yeah, exactly.
00:47:28 --> 00:47:28 Exactly.
00:47:29 --> 00:47:33 Well, yes, y'all, this is an interesting, interesting topic for sure.
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00:47:49 --> 00:47:50 Yes.
00:47:50 --> 00:47:51 Okay, so...
00:47:52 --> 00:47:54 Let's finish with the scores for Hootie Fruity.
00:47:55 --> 00:47:56 I'll give it a 7.5.
00:47:56 --> 00:47:56 Oof.
00:47:58 --> 00:47:59 You know, I'll match you.
00:47:59 --> 00:48:01 I just want a big, I want a stronger ending.
00:48:01 --> 00:48:01 I just want something.
00:48:02 --> 00:48:02 Oh.
00:48:02 --> 00:48:03 Yeah.
00:48:04 --> 00:48:09 I'm going to give it an eight because it has the, it's got that earworm vibe and I'm not going to listen.
00:48:09 --> 00:48:13 I don't listen to it again, but when it does come on, I'm always like, whoopty, whoopty.
00:48:13 --> 00:48:17 All right, guys, we'll ride along to Belle Aire.
00:48:17 --> 00:48:26 And this was done by Kristen Carpenter, Charlie XCX, Noonie Bao, Martin Stilling, Patrick Berger, Stefan Groslin, and Mr. Rogers.
00:48:26 --> 00:48:31 And Charlie XCX wrote the track around 2013 for her album, Sucker, and it had leaked at the time.
00:48:32 --> 00:48:37 And now, over 10 years later, it is Cat's Eyes with a few lyrical changes.
00:48:37 --> 00:48:39 So how do we feel about Bel Air?
00:48:39 --> 00:48:46 We have finally left hypersonic, supertonic tracks.
00:48:52 --> 00:48:55 Yeah, well, so first I want to mention Charlie XCX's demo.
00:48:55 --> 00:48:56 It's really good.
00:48:57 --> 00:48:57 Yeah.
00:48:58 --> 00:49:00 It has this kind of 80s synth production.
00:49:01 --> 00:49:03 The way she's singing it, there's like a torment to it.
00:49:03 --> 00:49:05 There's a sadness to it.
00:49:05 --> 00:49:09 I can totally see why this was a fan favorite when it leaked, you know, a decade ago.
00:49:14 --> 00:49:18 So listening to Cat's Eyes is quite interesting.
00:49:18 --> 00:49:20 They completely changed the production.
00:49:20 --> 00:49:23 You get this kind of like MIDI style synth line.
00:49:23 --> 00:49:26 And you get this marching snare drum beat.
00:49:26 --> 00:49:30 It still has kind of a dreamy quality, which is similar to what Charlie's had.
00:49:31 --> 00:49:33 But it's all just a bit more metallic and harder.
00:49:34 --> 00:49:34 Yeah.
00:49:34 --> 00:49:35 Um...
00:49:35 --> 00:49:36 So that's an interesting choice.
00:49:36 --> 00:49:45 I'm going to be honest, when it first came on, I didn't love that because it sounded like those ringtones that you used to buy for your phone back in the late 90s or early 2000s.
00:49:46 --> 00:49:48 Oh my gosh.
00:49:49 --> 00:49:51 So yeah, I think the changes that they made are interesting.
00:49:51 --> 00:49:58 If you look at the lyrics, the biggest one being Charlie's was If You Were Mine.
00:49:59 --> 00:50:00 Cat Size is When You Were Mine.
00:50:01 --> 00:50:03 So they changed it from being about unrequited love to being about
00:50:04 --> 00:50:06 real past relationships.
00:50:06 --> 00:50:08 So that's interesting that they did that.
00:50:09 --> 00:50:12 Charlie's lyrics are more interesting.
00:50:12 --> 00:50:13 They're a bit darker, I think.
00:50:13 --> 00:50:14 So I guess...
00:50:15 --> 00:50:19 Now they're thinking about the younger audience a little bit more here.
00:50:20 --> 00:50:26 I will say their vocal execution is good, but there is this vocal effect on it that then makes it more robotic.
00:50:26 --> 00:50:30 So again, I'm just like annoyed at the Hybe vocal production.
00:50:30 --> 00:50:34 We've complained about it for all of their artists, the Seraphim and Hype it and like all of them.
00:50:34 --> 00:50:35 I don't know what it is.
00:50:35 --> 00:50:38 They like don't want any emotion in their songs.
00:50:38 --> 00:50:40 Yeah, that's what a lot of tuning does.
00:50:40 --> 00:50:42 I think people are like Melodyne, rather.
00:50:42 --> 00:50:49 Because, yeah, you can have tune on it for sure, but then you also add that process of Melodyne where it snaps your vocals in.
00:50:50 --> 00:50:52 So sometimes you can erase some vibrato or, you know.
00:50:54 --> 00:50:55 And it's so interesting because the girls...
00:50:57 --> 00:51:01 They deserve a little bit better than just random LA Valley girl pop.
00:51:01 --> 00:51:03 I'm going to be sober with you.
00:51:03 --> 00:51:06 Like, I think at this point it's a little bit like, oh my God.
00:51:06 --> 00:51:09 Because Sis sounds like this.
00:51:10 --> 00:51:15 The slower tracks on Beautiful Chaos is not much better than this.
00:51:15 --> 00:51:19 I think this is a little bit better than like, God bless the sweet girls.
00:51:19 --> 00:51:20 God bless the, oh, Christina.
00:51:20 --> 00:51:21 It is definitely better than that.
00:51:21 --> 00:51:22 I'm sorry.
00:51:22 --> 00:51:23 I hate that song so much.
00:51:25 --> 00:51:25 Copy that.
00:51:25 --> 00:51:29 Guys, that's... God bless even Chris being a mean girl.
00:51:30 --> 00:51:32 Oh, yes.
00:51:32 --> 00:51:34 Even the mean girls.
00:51:35 --> 00:51:36 Okay, so I'm sorry.
00:51:36 --> 00:51:43 But yeah, I think for this song, I've listened to it and I was like, who...
00:51:45 --> 00:51:57 I think they are unfortunately trapped in this network of songwriters that all know each other, that all are like L.A., that all shop at Erewhon, that all are like, you know, like, I want to cut off that album.
00:51:57 --> 00:52:01 Like, I just feel like they all talk like this and whatever.
00:52:01 --> 00:52:05 You can be whatever color, but if you're from L.A., there's a certain kind of like you get sucked into it.
00:52:06 --> 00:52:06 Right.
00:52:06 --> 00:52:08 And I feel like this music, this song sounds like it.
00:52:09 --> 00:52:13 And the whole like we got this song that belonged to another artist is unfair.
00:52:14 --> 00:52:38 to cat's eye i think because at this point it's just like now you guys are getting quote unquote scraps right as opposed to songs i feel like we thought about you girls um they sound fine they sound quite nice and i think i agree with you with the tuning part but like i'm not gonna poop on them because it's not cat's eyes fault that they are literally contracted to write these i mean to sing these songs um it just kind of sucks that these
00:52:38 --> 00:52:47 executive in these labels think that they're like really doing something special and then now we hear something like this after hearing the louder tracks you're thinking wow
00:52:48 --> 00:52:49 oof, this is good.
00:52:50 --> 00:52:51 And it can't be like this.
00:52:51 --> 00:52:59 It can't be like, okay, we're going to put this like mid B-side from someone's failed project on this album and the fans are going to eat this up.
00:52:59 --> 00:52:59 It's not fair.
00:53:00 --> 00:53:00 Yeah.
00:53:00 --> 00:53:01 It's not fair.
00:53:01 --> 00:53:01 What?
00:53:01 --> 00:53:02 Oh my God.
00:53:02 --> 00:53:03 No, it's true.
00:53:04 --> 00:53:05 You know what I'm saying?
00:53:05 --> 00:53:10 Like, it's not fair to how talented they are and also the budget that Hybe has.
00:53:11 --> 00:53:12 It does not make sense.
00:53:13 --> 00:53:14 All this money.
00:53:15 --> 00:53:16 Maybe it's Geffen's fault.
00:53:16 --> 00:53:17 I don't know.
00:53:17 --> 00:53:24 But it's very strange to me that you are sitting there paying all of this money to not have a Ryan Tedder write you a track.
00:53:24 --> 00:53:26 To not have a, what's his name?
00:53:28 --> 00:53:29 What's his name?
00:53:29 --> 00:53:29 Cavan?
00:53:30 --> 00:53:30 Sabata or something?
00:53:31 --> 00:53:34 The one who wrote on Flo's album and One Direction's album?
00:53:34 --> 00:53:34 Is it Cavan?
00:53:35 --> 00:53:35 Cavan?
00:53:36 --> 00:53:36 Oh, Savon.
00:53:37 --> 00:53:37 Savon.
00:53:37 --> 00:53:37 My bad.
00:53:37 --> 00:53:39 Savon could pay something.
00:53:39 --> 00:53:40 Why not get his name?
00:53:40 --> 00:53:40 Kateka.
00:53:40 --> 00:53:42 I hopefully messed up his name.
00:53:42 --> 00:53:46 But the point is, you guys can afford these people.
00:53:47 --> 00:53:47 Why not get them?
00:53:48 --> 00:53:55 Yeah, no, they're just digging through their publishing archives for all these rejects from big artists.
00:53:55 --> 00:53:58 I think they're just happy they got Charli XCX credit on the album.
00:53:59 --> 00:54:00 It's not fair to the girls at all.
00:54:00 --> 00:54:03 They deserve to be like, hey, we wrote this for you guys.
00:54:03 --> 00:54:05 Not so-and-so saying it, but didn't want it.
00:54:06 --> 00:54:09 Like, well, Beyonce got offered all about that base and she rejected it.
00:54:09 --> 00:54:11 Like, it would have not made sense at all for her.
00:54:12 --> 00:54:12 So why is it?
00:54:13 --> 00:54:15 It's like it's Bel Air.
00:54:16 --> 00:54:17 Like, please.
00:54:17 --> 00:54:18 It's not fair.
00:54:18 --> 00:54:20 Because wig budget is expensive.
00:54:20 --> 00:54:21 Wig budget!
00:54:22 --> 00:54:23 Okay?
00:54:24 --> 00:54:25 The budget, you asked where the budget went.
00:54:25 --> 00:54:27 The budget went to the latex they're laying on.
00:54:27 --> 00:54:28 The budget went to the wig.
00:54:29 --> 00:54:33 The budget went to the skimpy little pieces that they're wearing on, like, as they do things.
00:54:33 --> 00:54:34 It's so pricey, yeah.
00:54:34 --> 00:54:39 The budget has gone to where the budget they want it to go to, which is the visuals, the look, the everything else.
00:54:40 --> 00:54:41 We've said this before.
00:54:41 --> 00:54:42 The music is secondary.
00:54:42 --> 00:54:44 The music, that's why.
00:54:44 --> 00:54:47 So it's like, yeah, you're going to get hand-me-downs.
00:54:47 --> 00:54:51 Because you either get hand-me-downs clothes, you get hand-me-downs songs.
00:54:52 --> 00:54:55 They chose songs.
00:54:55 --> 00:54:56 Fine.
00:54:56 --> 00:54:57 God, now I'm scared.
00:54:58 --> 00:55:03 Bel Air is the longest song on the album.
00:55:03 --> 00:55:07 It's 30 minutes and 30 seconds, which when you say in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't feel that long.
00:55:08 --> 00:55:08 Yeah.
00:55:08 --> 00:55:12 Listening to it, you feel every single three minutes and 30 seconds.
00:55:12 --> 00:55:12 Yeah.
00:55:13 --> 00:55:14 Yeah.
00:55:14 --> 00:55:25 Yeah, I just like, and especially because of the way that it lands, it's like we go from pinky up, animal, to the fruity, Bel Air.
00:55:25 --> 00:55:31 Like it just feels like you just like, it's the rug has been ripped under you and it doesn't feel like there's any type of flow.
00:55:31 --> 00:55:33 But like, how are you going to have flow with five songs?
00:55:33 --> 00:55:35 I don't know, you know, I don't know where to ask that.
00:55:35 --> 00:55:36 But like...
00:55:37 --> 00:55:38 I don't know who asked that.
00:55:38 --> 00:55:41 It's just one of those things.
00:55:41 --> 00:55:44 It wasn't a memorable track for me.
00:55:44 --> 00:55:47 I actually cannot tell you what it sounds like in this moment.
00:55:47 --> 00:55:50 And I listened to it again right before we got on this.
00:55:52 --> 00:55:53 I feel like that sometimes on our reviews.
00:55:53 --> 00:55:54 Sometimes it's not just that.
00:55:54 --> 00:55:55 I'm sorry.
00:55:55 --> 00:55:57 I'm getting like that.
00:55:57 --> 00:56:00 Also, there's just no build to the song at all.
00:56:00 --> 00:56:05 Like there's nothing in the production that really switches up other than the synths falling away for the second pre-chorus.
00:56:05 --> 00:56:06 Yeah.
00:56:06 --> 00:56:13 So I have the same note actually that it kind of lost me by the final chorus because the song just doesn't go anywhere.
00:56:13 --> 00:56:14 It's flat lines.
00:56:14 --> 00:56:16 Oh my God, these poor girls.
00:56:16 --> 00:56:17 Oh, Jesus.
00:56:17 --> 00:56:18 You know what?
00:56:18 --> 00:56:19 I'm not saying these poor girls.
00:56:19 --> 00:56:21 These poor girls are doing exactly what they want.
00:56:21 --> 00:56:23 They're getting exactly what they want.
00:56:23 --> 00:56:30 Laura, Daniela, Yunche, Sophia, Megan, and Manon, for that matter, are getting exactly what they want.
00:56:30 --> 00:56:31 They want to be famous.
00:56:31 --> 00:56:32 They got it.
00:56:33 --> 00:56:34 Whoa.
00:56:34 --> 00:56:37 Ooh, we got to have your back for another essay.
00:56:37 --> 00:56:38 Mm-hmm.
00:56:38 --> 00:56:38 Mm-hmm.
00:56:38 --> 00:56:40 Okay, so what do we rate this one?
00:56:42 --> 00:56:43 I'm going to give it a six.
00:56:43 --> 00:56:44 I don't really care for it.
00:56:44 --> 00:56:44 It's okay.
00:56:46 --> 00:56:47 Really nice of you.
00:56:47 --> 00:56:47 I'm going to give it a three.
00:56:47 --> 00:56:50 I'm sorry.
00:56:51 --> 00:56:52 Oh, dang.
00:56:52 --> 00:56:54 I actually don't think the song itself is that bad.
00:56:54 --> 00:56:55 I don't love their version.
00:56:55 --> 00:56:58 I much prefer Charlie X, the X's version.
00:56:59 --> 00:57:01 But I'll match you with the six, Chantel.
00:57:01 --> 00:57:02 I don't think the actual song is terrible.
00:57:02 --> 00:57:05 Mean Girls is still Cat Size's worst song.
00:57:06 --> 00:57:10 But with Mean Girls, you at least can remember how it goes.
00:57:10 --> 00:57:15 Like, I'm very much a memorable, doesn't make me feel something type of way.
00:57:15 --> 00:57:17 Even anger is better than apathy.
00:57:17 --> 00:57:19 I feel apathy towards that song.
00:57:19 --> 00:57:20 That's fair.
00:57:20 --> 00:57:21 Yeah, it's very fair.
00:57:21 --> 00:57:21 Yeah.
00:57:22 --> 00:57:22 Y'all are.
00:57:22 --> 00:57:32 Okay, so the last song before we get to the Target exclusive is That Way, done by Johnny Goldstein, Feli Ferraro, and Michael Polak.
00:57:33 --> 00:57:39 And they did perform this at this Spotify party right before this EP came out.
00:57:45 --> 00:57:52 I think that that way, AKA my way part two is, you know, it could, it's a fine song.
00:57:52 --> 00:57:55 I just, it does sound like my way to me.
00:57:55 --> 00:58:02 And I'm just very confused as to why we've had, this a five piece album has three repeat songs, but you know, it's.
00:58:02 --> 00:58:03 You know what?
00:58:03 --> 00:58:04 Oh, wow.
00:58:05 --> 00:58:07 This is, but this is what I'm saying.
00:58:07 --> 00:58:09 Like, Katai has made its choice.
00:58:09 --> 00:58:15 It prefers the visuals of it, prefers the visuals and the girls to be more important than the music itself.
00:58:15 --> 00:58:17 And that just feels very indicative to this album.
00:58:17 --> 00:58:19 So yeah, it just was, it was an okay track.
00:58:21 --> 00:58:25 I, again, it's not the most memorable track for me, I get, but the song itself was all right.
00:58:27 --> 00:58:28 I mean, I think it's better than My Way.
00:58:28 --> 00:58:30 Like, My Way was so cheesy.
00:58:30 --> 00:58:31 Oh, never if I can say it.
00:58:32 --> 00:58:34 I knew my way.
00:58:34 --> 00:58:35 Okay, well, Chantal loves it.
00:58:35 --> 00:58:35 Okay.
00:58:36 --> 00:58:36 No.
00:58:36 --> 00:58:36 Yeah.
00:58:40 --> 00:59:01 listen listen like i said guys if you're watching this you still have you you're still watching this we don't hate these girls and you can tell i really don't hate them at all either because i don't i don't hate them either i just want better for them and then there's no one here um yeah no one here is not coming i just i'm a fan of the girls i'm not a huge fan of the music yet
00:59:01 --> 00:59:02 I want to be.
00:59:03 --> 00:59:05 So this song, I do enjoy this linkiness of it.
00:59:05 --> 00:59:07 There's a bounce to the groove of it.
00:59:07 --> 00:59:10 It does feel kind of classic girl group in a way.
00:59:10 --> 00:59:10 Yeah.
00:59:11 --> 00:59:17 You could see that as a good thing or a bad thing because I did see some comments from some fans that were like, this sounds like a Fifth Harmony reject.
00:59:17 --> 00:59:25 Like, this sounds like a girl group demo from the 2000s got, you know, chosen from this archive.
00:59:26 --> 00:59:29 But I love a girl group, so I'm not mad at the classic girl group sound.
00:59:30 --> 00:59:32 And they don't really have another song that sounds like this to me.
00:59:32 --> 00:59:33 Okay.
00:59:33 --> 00:59:33 Yeah.
00:59:34 --> 00:59:39 So I think it actually does make sense on this project because it kind of partners animal.
00:59:39 --> 00:59:41 Like it's guitar led.
00:59:41 --> 00:59:42 There's a sass to it.
00:59:42 --> 00:59:43 There's a confidence to it.
00:59:44 --> 00:59:50 It all feels just a bit more effortless than some of the other ones, which I'll take at this point.
00:59:50 --> 00:59:51 Like, let's be real.
00:59:51 --> 00:59:55 The bar is just not that high for me when it comes to their music.
00:59:55 --> 00:59:58 So I'm kind of just taking what I can that's decent.
00:59:58 --> 00:59:58 Yeah.
00:59:59 --> 01:00:07 Honestly, I will say the vocal execution, there is a little bit less processing on this one, which I'm very happy about.
01:00:07 --> 01:00:10 Because some of these songs, you cannot tell who is singing.
01:00:10 --> 01:00:11 There's so many effects on it.
01:00:12 --> 01:00:14 At least with this one, like Megan, she sounds great.
01:00:14 --> 01:00:16 Her rasp actually comes through here.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:19 Like, they actually sound human in this.
01:00:20 --> 01:00:22 And there is layering in here.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:26 You get a couple vocal layers in here across the second pre-chorus.
01:00:26 --> 01:00:29 There are ad-libs and harmonies towards the end as well.
01:00:29 --> 01:00:32 It didn't look like they did any of them when they sang it live, unfortunately.
01:00:33 --> 01:00:36 But again, I will take what I can get at this point.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:43 You know, okay, I think lyrically I do appreciate the kind of like, you know, you could be mine if you're lucky.
01:00:43 --> 01:00:48 I was like, yes, because I'm very much like, if you're privileged enough to touch me, you're welcome.
01:00:49 --> 01:00:49 Right?
01:00:49 --> 01:00:51 So I do appreciate that because they're beautiful girls.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:54 So having them, again, it's the whole like, don't you, pussycat doll thing.
01:00:54 --> 01:00:54 It's like, dang, I do.
01:00:55 --> 01:00:55 She's hot.
01:00:55 --> 01:00:57 I can't really refute that evidence.
01:00:57 --> 01:00:58 Same thing with them.
01:00:58 --> 01:00:58 They're beautiful girls.
01:00:58 --> 01:01:01 It's like, you're lucky if I even like, I'm a cat sign member.
01:01:01 --> 01:01:02 You know, like, I'm famous.
01:01:03 --> 01:01:04 But that's not the whole vibe that they're giving.
01:01:04 --> 01:01:05 It's more just like, hey.
01:01:05 --> 01:01:07 As a young lady, I am the prize.
01:01:07 --> 01:01:08 So I appreciate that.
01:01:09 --> 01:01:15 I think in terms of what you said, in terms of the Sonics, it does fit Animal, but also with Hootie Fruotie.
01:01:15 --> 01:01:21 It's not as ridiculous as Hootie Fruotie, but it has the same concept as I am very expensive and more waste than one.
01:01:22 --> 01:01:24 You will be lucky, okay?
01:01:24 --> 01:01:28 And also I need a man that knows, you know, was it the ropes and the tropes, right?
01:01:28 --> 01:01:31 So like they, I know the guys who does all of them, takes commands, all that stuff like that.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:33 Like it's about, I want it this way.
01:01:34 --> 01:01:35 Or I want it that way.
01:01:35 --> 01:01:37 If you can't follow the rules, you can go that way.
01:01:37 --> 01:01:39 So I appreciate it.
01:01:40 --> 01:01:41 I appreciate it.
01:01:42 --> 01:01:44 It's very like, this is what I want.
01:01:44 --> 01:01:45 This is what I need.
01:01:45 --> 01:01:45 Done.
01:01:46 --> 01:01:47 So yeah, it was cute.
01:01:49 --> 01:01:51 I don't think they would make this into a single.
01:01:51 --> 01:01:53 And I think that was another thing too.
01:01:53 --> 01:01:56 Maybe as an indie artist, I think about how much every song costs me.
01:01:58 --> 01:02:02 And I'm like, oh my God, this is going to cost me like legit, like someone's month's rent to write this one song.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:07 So for me, it's like, if you can't imagine this being a single, then it should be on the album.
01:02:08 --> 01:02:08 This?
01:02:10 --> 01:02:10 Maybe.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:12 Not really.
01:02:12 --> 01:02:13 I don't know.
01:02:14 --> 01:02:15 Exactly.
01:02:15 --> 01:02:22 So if the answer is no, I do, however, do appreciate that finally there's some natural voices.
01:02:23 --> 01:02:26 And I also will say, I hate that this was how we ended the album.
01:02:26 --> 01:02:28 Because it kind of ends on a little bit of a button.
01:02:29 --> 01:02:30 Where it just stops.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:34 And then I was like, and then because I'm listening to it on Apple Music, it played the music video for Pinky Up.
01:02:34 --> 01:02:36 And I said, that's not it, is it?
01:02:37 --> 01:02:38 That's not it, is it?
01:02:40 --> 01:02:45 Yeah, I said, okay, y'all, listen, we all know each other outside of here, obviously, but people who don't know, we're actually all friends.
01:02:45 --> 01:02:48 I sent a group chat message and I said, what's the most of it?
01:02:48 --> 01:02:50 I was so angry.
01:02:51 --> 01:02:52 I was like, what's the most of it?
01:02:53 --> 01:02:54 Is this it?
01:02:54 --> 01:02:55 I was done.
01:02:55 --> 01:02:56 I was like, what's going on?
01:02:57 --> 01:02:59 But yeah, performing it, they looked good.
01:02:59 --> 01:03:00 They sounded good.
01:03:00 --> 01:03:03 Club Cat's Eye was interesting, to say the least.
01:03:05 --> 01:03:05 You know?
01:03:06 --> 01:03:07 But yeah, the song is okay.
01:03:07 --> 01:03:08 It did what it needed to do.
01:03:09 --> 01:03:11 Yeah, the bar is low for me.
01:03:11 --> 01:03:16 Like, here, I think someone else has said this before, so sorry whoever I'm stealing this from, but like,
01:03:18 --> 01:03:22 This would be like a three for a really good girl group.
01:03:22 --> 01:03:26 Like if Flo sang this, we would be like, this is one of their worst songs ever.
01:03:27 --> 01:03:30 But for Cat's Eye, it's like one of their better ones.
01:03:32 --> 01:03:34 So I'll give it a seven for them.
01:03:35 --> 01:03:41 But their bar is so much lower than so many other girl groups for me.
01:03:41 --> 01:03:42 Food for thought.
01:03:42 --> 01:03:43 Okay, seven for me.
01:03:45 --> 01:03:46 I'm going to give it a six.
01:03:47 --> 01:03:50 I also just want to point out that we've been talking longer than the album is.
01:03:52 --> 01:03:52 Goodbye.
01:03:52 --> 01:03:53 Okay.
01:03:53 --> 01:03:57 Oh, Lord.
01:03:58 --> 01:03:59 All right.
01:03:59 --> 01:04:00 That'd be good.
01:04:00 --> 01:04:00 Well...
01:04:01 --> 01:04:04 Luckily for you all, there's actually one more song.
01:04:04 --> 01:04:11 Because if you bought the album at Target, you get the very first Cat's Eye co-written song ever.
01:04:12 --> 01:04:13 We have Unlove You.
01:04:13 --> 01:04:14 Yes.
01:04:14 --> 01:04:18 Written by Lara Raj of Cat's Eye, Amy Allen, and Ross Golan.
01:04:19 --> 01:04:24 And unfortunately, as I mentioned, it's only available on the Target-exclusive physical edition of the album.
01:04:25 --> 01:04:29 Lara did note that it is about her first heartbreak ever when she was 16.
01:04:29 --> 01:04:36 And as I mentioned earlier, they did show footage of the recording sessions and the writing sessions in the Wild Hearts documentary as well.
01:04:42 --> 01:04:43 I heard the song.
01:04:44 --> 01:04:46 I won't say have, but I did hear the song.
01:04:47 --> 01:04:48 You didn't buy it at Target?
01:04:49 --> 01:04:50 Yes, she did.
01:04:51 --> 01:04:51 Yes, she did.
01:04:51 --> 01:04:52 Yeah.
01:04:52 --> 01:04:52 Yeah.
01:04:55 --> 01:05:13 right well maybe someone else I know bought it and I were in the car whatever point is I heard so um so a long time ago I'm gonna make this very quick because I I have a beef with someone I don't know who they are so it's not really a real beef
01:05:13 --> 01:05:21 But please understand that maybe like an album cycle ago or so, whatever, I said the girls need a song about heartbreak, at least one song.
01:05:21 --> 01:05:23 Like, hey, I experienced life.
01:05:23 --> 01:05:23 I dated someone.
01:05:23 --> 01:05:24 I didn't like this.
01:05:24 --> 01:05:27 And this person told me there's a million songs about it.
01:05:27 --> 01:05:29 There's a couple people who agree with him, too, or them.
01:05:30 --> 01:05:32 And they said they don't need songs like that.
01:05:32 --> 01:05:33 There's a million songs about heartbreak.
01:05:33 --> 01:05:34 Yeah.
01:05:34 --> 01:05:35 Look what tops the charts, though, right?
01:05:36 --> 01:05:36 Hello?
01:05:36 --> 01:05:38 Says this whole career, Summer Walker.
01:05:38 --> 01:05:38 Celine Dion.
01:05:39 --> 01:05:39 Adele.
01:05:39 --> 01:05:47 My point is, though, in the documentary, these girls said for the longest time they wanted a song like Unlove You.
01:05:48 --> 01:05:51 So, to that person, suck my hooty fruity.
01:05:51 --> 01:05:52 Anyway, so...
01:05:54 --> 01:06:07 I'm totally joking, but for them to finally have a song that is coming from a real lived experience, even if it is kind of like a okay by the numbers kind of love song, it's like freaking finally.
01:06:07 --> 01:06:13 Lara has been producing and writing in her room for forever.
01:06:14 --> 01:06:16 They all say how much of a queen she is.
01:06:16 --> 01:06:20 But then they also said, like, she also said she got rejected a lot of the times with the demos.
01:06:20 --> 01:06:23 And then you get this song, and you guys, like, stripped it.
01:06:23 --> 01:06:27 Any demo that she made and Megan made apparently wasn't good enough.
01:06:27 --> 01:06:29 There were leaks before in the past.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:31 This song is okay.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:34 But, like, finally, they're singing.
01:06:34 --> 01:06:36 They're giving us something.
01:06:36 --> 01:06:40 However, welcome back to It Needs to Be Perfect.
01:06:41 --> 01:06:42 Here comes some Melodyne.
01:06:42 --> 01:06:44 You can literally hear the tinniness.
01:06:44 --> 01:06:45 And that's what irritates me.
01:06:45 --> 01:06:47 And I'm like, maybe it's because the way I listen to it.
01:06:49 --> 01:06:52 But it wasn't because the way I listen to it.
01:06:52 --> 01:06:54 It wasn't because the way I was listening to it.
01:06:54 --> 01:06:56 It's just the way they have the vocal processing.
01:06:56 --> 01:06:58 It's like, it has to be super perfect.
01:06:58 --> 01:06:58 It's a pop song.
01:06:59 --> 01:07:06 But yeah, no, I mean, for this to be like a song about life and love, I appreciate the girls' voice.
01:07:06 --> 01:07:34 giving something and they saw like they were trying to emote which i appreciate but again like the digitization of everything was a little like dang i'm gonna remove that from you but i think the song is not bad i do want more from them i feel like any other song they would have done like a big bigger pop song if they let lara do it it probably would be freaking fire but that's where the conversation i guess did you guys hear it yeah you did i was into it
01:07:36 --> 01:07:39 I have a friend that bought it and then we listened to it.
01:07:40 --> 01:07:40 Yeah.
01:07:41 --> 01:07:41 Yeah.
01:07:42 --> 01:07:50 No, I thought Unlove You was just like, first of all, I jokingly was just like, oh, the Manon breakup song.
01:07:50 --> 01:07:50 Got it.
01:07:50 --> 01:07:53 It definitely sounded like how it's good.
01:07:53 --> 01:07:54 It's just like Unlove You.
01:07:54 --> 01:07:56 It's just like, especially coming from Laura.
01:07:57 --> 01:07:59 Anyway, but I thought the song itself was...
01:08:00 --> 01:08:16 it was it was a better song than the other two that the the last few tracks on the album i like the little the little like oh love you oh oh oh like how he's trying to like gave a little bit but like i am not i think laura is an incredible singer
01:08:17 --> 01:08:21 I don't need a Laura always just whistling on tracks without purpose.
01:08:21 --> 01:08:26 Like, it's Ariana Grande was whistling on tracks, but she was also singing regularly.
01:08:26 --> 01:08:35 Like, unfortunately, they just don't give Laura enough regular lines that for me that to warrant all the whistling and R&B runs and all the other things, which she's good at it.
01:08:36 --> 01:08:37 I'm not saying she's not.
01:08:37 --> 01:08:39 I just it felt at times bad.
01:08:39 --> 01:08:44 She was doing it just because she was like, oh, this is my only shot to really show people I can sing.
01:08:45 --> 01:08:50 Which this felt like a Laura and the girls song.
01:08:50 --> 01:08:52 It wasn't a cat's eye song.
01:08:53 --> 01:08:53 So.
01:08:54 --> 01:08:54 Mm.
01:08:55 --> 01:08:58 Yeah, I think, again, I will take the crumbs.
01:08:58 --> 01:09:02 I'm happy that they get to be a little bit more creatively involved at this point.
01:09:03 --> 01:09:06 Melodically, I agree, it's not amazing.
01:09:07 --> 01:09:15 It is nice to hear them in a bit more of a vulnerable place that seems genuine and also relevant and true to their experience and their age.
01:09:18 --> 01:09:22 The tuning on, yeah, my main note is also just the vocal effects.
01:09:22 --> 01:09:26 Like, I do wish it was left a tad, or a lot more, raw.
01:09:26 --> 01:09:26 Yeah.
01:09:26 --> 01:09:29 Because I really don't need all that.
01:09:29 --> 01:09:36 I also have a note about Lara and her head voice, and kind of what they were trying to do.
01:09:36 --> 01:09:37 I get it, but...
01:09:39 --> 01:09:42 I don't know, there's something about it that just wasn't very satisfying to listen to.
01:09:43 --> 01:09:43 Yes.
01:09:43 --> 01:09:46 Like, it didn't sound nice in my ears.
01:09:46 --> 01:09:49 You know, we've talked about so many girl groups and their amazing ballads.
01:09:49 --> 01:09:52 We just did Spice Girls, like Viva Forever, Too Much.
01:09:52 --> 01:09:54 You know, we talk about, like, Atomic Kitten and, like, all that.
01:09:55 --> 01:09:56 Like, there's a warmth there.
01:09:56 --> 01:09:58 There's, like, a lushness to something.
01:09:58 --> 01:10:01 Like, some of those ballads are beautiful.
01:10:02 --> 01:10:05 The way this was produced, it's not pretty.
01:10:05 --> 01:10:07 It's not a nice-sounding track, so I don't want to listen to it.
01:10:08 --> 01:10:32 yeah yeah i don't know it's it's kind of it's weird but again look my standard is much lower for cat size so i'll take it that's tough y'all oh he listen icons i'm gonna be honest with here it's a safe space you can be honest how do you guys feel about it but um let's know your scores by the way let's know your scores um so
01:10:33 --> 01:10:35 My score for this one is 6.5.
01:10:35 --> 01:10:37 It's not super strong.
01:10:38 --> 01:10:38 It's not terrible.
01:10:38 --> 01:10:43 And I'm not going to sit there and be like, oh my god, bonus points because you were able to write the song.
01:10:43 --> 01:10:44 Because I've heard their unreleased demos.
01:10:45 --> 01:10:46 They put up on Bubble and stuff like that.
01:10:47 --> 01:10:50 And it's actually pretty good.
01:10:50 --> 01:10:51 It's not amazing.
01:10:51 --> 01:10:51 Like, wow.
01:10:51 --> 01:10:57 But for 19-year-old girls trying to figure out what the heck they're doing, it wasn't bad.
01:10:57 --> 01:10:58 It was a little bit better.
01:10:59 --> 01:10:59 So, yeah.
01:11:01 --> 01:11:01 I'll give it a 7.
01:11:04 --> 01:11:05 I'll give it a five.
01:11:05 --> 01:11:06 Okay.
01:11:07 --> 01:11:08 Yeah.
01:11:08 --> 01:11:08 Okay.
01:11:08 --> 01:11:09 All right.
01:11:09 --> 01:11:11 So now we're at our cut or keep section.
01:11:12 --> 01:11:12 Yes.
01:11:12 --> 01:11:18 For those who are new here, we either cut a track and we cut one track and we keep one track.
01:11:18 --> 01:11:18 Okay.
01:11:18 --> 01:11:19 That's what it is.
01:11:19 --> 01:11:22 Like there is no like, Oh my God, but no cut it or keep it.
01:11:22 --> 01:11:23 Yes.
01:11:23 --> 01:11:23 Yes.
01:11:24 --> 01:11:27 And so our listener, Ryan, his cut is actually nothing.
01:11:28 --> 01:11:30 He actually loves this EP.
01:11:30 --> 01:11:32 And his keep is Bel Air.
01:11:32 --> 01:11:33 Interesting choice.
01:11:37 --> 01:11:39 Three cats, I kidnap you.
01:11:39 --> 01:11:40 Blink twice.
01:11:43 --> 01:11:43 Okay.
01:11:43 --> 01:11:47 If I had to cut a song on this, for me, it would be Bel Air.
01:11:47 --> 01:11:48 Sorry, Ryan.
01:11:50 --> 01:11:52 Yeah, for me, it's also Bel Air.
01:11:52 --> 01:11:54 It's not strong for me.
01:11:56 --> 01:11:58 For me, it's Bel Air that way, you know?
01:12:00 --> 01:12:01 Oh, damn.
01:12:02 --> 01:12:03 Jesus.
01:12:03 --> 01:12:06 If you had to keep a song, though, Jasmine, what would it be?
01:12:07 --> 01:12:08 Hootie Fruity.
01:12:08 --> 01:12:09 Okay.
01:12:09 --> 01:12:10 I would keep Hootie Fruity.
01:12:10 --> 01:12:12 I feel like that should have been the track instead of Pinky Up.
01:12:13 --> 01:12:16 If they would have been Hootie Fruity, then Animal.
01:12:16 --> 01:12:16 At Coachella.
01:12:17 --> 01:12:42 yeah release hooty fruity first that one it's different it's fun it's funky and then animal and then pinky ups but what the hell is this you know right not really what the hell is this so by the time hooty comes wrong there's people are people are fatigued now so now it's like dang so for me i feel like hooty is that girl for me that's fair that's fair i'll stick with animal yeah i think yeah i think at least melodically it's just a bit more what i would
01:12:42 --> 01:13:04 lean towards listening to i guess yeah yeah okay so overall thoughts on the ep so ryan did say as i mentioned that he loves this ep he actually thinks it's a great progression from cis so i guess for me i do think it is better than beautiful chaos which i did not love
01:13:07 --> 01:13:30 you know during the documentary they mentioned that this EP for them is about growth I know Jasmine you said it kind of sounds like the last EP I think for me it does sound a little bit older like now you can kind of tell listening to it that they're kind of becoming young women however it still just has zero cohesiveness like it is just
01:13:31 --> 01:13:32 There's no set.
01:13:32 --> 01:13:33 They don't have a sound.
01:13:34 --> 01:13:37 Like they're so talented and I'm rooting for them.
01:13:37 --> 01:13:39 And I love watching them perform.
01:13:39 --> 01:13:43 There is nothing about this music that will stand the test of time to me.
01:13:45 --> 01:13:55 there's nothing in this that I can hear it and be like, dang, that is a good song.
01:13:55 --> 01:14:02 And that deserves to be up there with Pussycat Dolls, Don't Ya, and Spice Girls' Wannabe, and all these greats.
01:14:03 --> 01:14:06 There is nothing from across their discography, and I hate that for them.
01:14:08 --> 01:14:11 It just feels so just of the moment and...
01:14:12 --> 01:14:13 I don't know.
01:14:14 --> 01:14:17 It makes me sad that their music is so meh.
01:14:18 --> 01:14:19 Yeah, that's valid.
01:14:19 --> 01:14:27 I mean, based on what they said in the documentary as well, everything is planned out, crafted, and it was a strategy.
01:14:27 --> 01:14:28 You do the same thing you did before.
01:14:28 --> 01:14:30 Gnarly Gabriela, pinky up, animal.
01:14:30 --> 01:14:31 Sophia said it herself.
01:14:32 --> 01:14:35 So us being critical of that,
01:14:37 --> 01:14:41 formula is not completely wrong because I think people are getting sick and tired of it.
01:14:41 --> 01:14:43 If you are a Cat's Eye fan, that's completely fine.
01:14:44 --> 01:14:49 I don't know if all of the drama that has taken place is worth this album.
01:14:50 --> 01:14:51 And that's my opinion.
01:14:51 --> 01:14:53 For all the stress that they've been through, it's not worth it.
01:14:53 --> 01:15:02 And unfortunately, because they've been performing in all of these festivals and basically everywhere, including the Disney D23 anniversary moment.
01:15:02 --> 01:15:03 Oh, yeah.
01:15:03 --> 01:15:06 What you've seen in the festival is what you're going to get on this tour.
01:15:07 --> 01:15:08 And unfortunately, that's just what happens.
01:15:09 --> 01:15:14 It's like, what time do they have to actually sit down, create new mixes, create new dance breaks?
01:15:14 --> 01:15:18 They've performed the same dance break, was it, for the past two years?
01:15:18 --> 01:15:18 Touch?
01:15:18 --> 01:15:18 Yes.
01:15:18 --> 01:15:19 Not touch.
01:15:19 --> 01:15:19 Was it touch?
01:15:20 --> 01:15:20 Gabriela.
01:15:20 --> 01:15:21 It's debut.
01:15:21 --> 01:15:23 Oh, and debut.
01:15:23 --> 01:15:23 Same dance.
01:15:24 --> 01:15:25 Granted, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
01:15:25 --> 01:15:29 What's happening now is like, you're going just to see it in person.
01:15:29 --> 01:15:31 Not because it's brand new or something fresh.
01:15:31 --> 01:15:33 And I think it's unfortunate that now that the girls are kind of
01:15:33 --> 01:15:52 pigeonholed and to being like you have to perform in order for people to get the song and they've said it in the documentary as well a song should never require your visuals to sell like yeah thriller the whole music video renaissance with the whole i'm a werewolf cool
01:15:53 --> 01:15:55 But Thriller as an album, effing solid.
01:15:56 --> 01:15:57 Right?
01:15:57 --> 01:15:58 So you can have visuals.
01:15:58 --> 01:15:59 Renaissance, you can have visuals.
01:16:00 --> 01:16:00 K-pop even.
01:16:01 --> 01:16:02 We get to a bunch of K-pop groups.
01:16:03 --> 01:16:04 Le Seraphim gets more care.
01:16:04 --> 01:16:05 Illet gets more care.
01:16:06 --> 01:16:10 From this nine, another hype group got more care, even though they kind of get shoved away.
01:16:11 --> 01:16:16 Even freaking new jeans got a better summer visual than what these girls got.
01:16:16 --> 01:16:20 So at this point, it's less about the girls and more about who's working around them.
01:16:20 --> 01:16:23 Everyone's trying to fish, exploit these girls at the end of the day.
01:16:23 --> 01:16:24 They may love it.
01:16:24 --> 01:16:25 They may be like, oh my God, I love making music.
01:16:27 --> 01:16:29 But I think this is like not fair to them.
01:16:30 --> 01:16:31 The album's okay.
01:16:32 --> 01:16:32 It's not great.
01:16:34 --> 01:16:34 It's not great at all.
01:16:34 --> 01:16:36 It is literally a beautiful chaos part two.
01:16:36 --> 01:16:37 Mm-hmm.
01:16:37 --> 01:16:38 Period.
01:16:38 --> 01:16:40 So it's, I hate that for them.
01:16:40 --> 01:16:45 I love them down, but it's unfortunately, I can't love you more than your company loves you.
01:16:45 --> 01:16:46 Yeah.
01:16:47 --> 01:16:48 I'll say this again.
01:16:48 --> 01:16:49 I've said this several times.
01:16:49 --> 01:16:52 They are Best New Artist nominees.
01:16:54 --> 01:16:59 And this is the album that you gave a Best New Artist nominee.
01:17:00 --> 01:17:10 Everybody knows if you nominated for the Best New Artist, that album that comes out has to be something that proves why they got the nomination or better.
01:17:11 --> 01:17:12 This didn't do either.
01:17:12 --> 01:17:18 This proved that they are just somebody's little project for some odd reason that stumbled upon a Grammy stage.
01:17:18 --> 01:17:30 And again, I know Grammys are not the end all be all of the awards, but there is no other place that we have currently in music that shows this is an excellent person, group or song, except for the Grammys.
01:17:31 --> 01:17:37 There are girl groups like Flo that are fighting to get the kind of recognition that Cat's Eye is getting.
01:17:38 --> 01:17:40 And their music quality is incredible.
01:17:41 --> 01:17:45 And we have Cat's Eye, which is just, and again, I know it's not the girls themselves.
01:17:45 --> 01:17:46 It is the group around them.
01:17:46 --> 01:17:49 It is the Hybe-Geffen pipeline they're on.
01:17:49 --> 01:17:54 It just feels like they're taking the youth of these girls and literally sucking it dry.
01:17:56 --> 01:18:18 yeah yeah i get that okay so if you had to give a rating for this project what would it be oh i think i would give this project i would give it a five because it's it's not it's not terrible there are listenable tracks it's just not what it needs to be
01:18:20 --> 01:18:22 I'm thinking a 6.5.
01:18:22 --> 01:18:23 I don't know.
01:18:23 --> 01:18:24 I feel like Beautiful Chaos.
01:18:25 --> 01:18:26 It had M.I.A.
01:18:26 --> 01:18:27 It had Gnarly.
01:18:27 --> 01:18:28 It had some other songs I actually like.
01:18:28 --> 01:18:30 It had Gabriela on it.
01:18:30 --> 01:18:32 I feel like it was just a stronger, in a sense.
01:18:33 --> 01:18:34 And this is kind of like the carbon copy.
01:18:34 --> 01:18:36 So I feel like I gave a better score for Beautiful Chaos.
01:18:37 --> 01:18:39 I don't know if I can give a strong score to this one.
01:18:39 --> 01:18:40 Yeah, that's fair.
01:18:40 --> 01:18:45 I think just looking at my scores, again, I'm kind of looking at their whole discography.
01:18:47 --> 01:18:49 I'll give it a 7.
01:18:51 --> 01:18:54 I think their standard is just so low.
01:18:54 --> 01:18:56 We sound like disappointed parents, guys.
01:18:56 --> 01:18:56 We do.
01:18:57 --> 01:18:58 It's really painful for us.
01:18:59 --> 01:19:00 It is disappointing.
01:19:00 --> 01:19:02 Sorry, guys, if this episode felt a little negative.
01:19:02 --> 01:19:03 We're not trying to be negative.
01:19:03 --> 01:19:05 It's just one of those things where it's like gut reactions.
01:19:06 --> 01:19:08 I think it's actually disappointing because...
01:19:09 --> 01:19:18 you watch them on the show, you saw the fight, you saw the things, like, you see, like, you see the train going and it's almost like, you're like, wait, what?
01:19:18 --> 01:19:19 What happened to the train?
01:19:19 --> 01:19:23 Like, it just doesn't feel like the same group that we started with, which is fine.
01:19:23 --> 01:19:25 You're allowed to change and evolve and grow.
01:19:25 --> 01:19:26 It's just...
01:19:28 --> 01:19:30 It's beyond what are they doing at this point?
01:19:31 --> 01:19:35 It's like we need to stop and go to the... We need to stop and start all over again.
01:19:35 --> 01:19:37 Yeah, a fresh start, yeah.
01:19:37 --> 01:19:46 Guys, listen, if you are an icon, you can actually, you know, kind of give us an idea of what do you think was going on with this album or your opinion in a healthy manner.
01:19:46 --> 01:19:46 Yeah.
01:19:47 --> 01:19:50 Please let us know what you think of Wild and what do you think of Sophia's hiatus.
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01:20:04 --> 01:20:06 And we have a couple of new ones today.
01:20:07 --> 01:20:07 We got a double.
01:20:07 --> 01:20:08 Yeah, really?
01:20:08 --> 01:20:09 Oh, my gosh.
01:20:09 --> 01:20:09 Shout out.
01:20:10 --> 01:20:11 I think his name is Trey.
01:20:11 --> 01:20:11 I got to double check.
01:20:11 --> 01:20:12 Let me not say anything.
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