Pop Off: TZUYU vs HWASA vs MEOVV (September 2024 Comebacks) with Jasmine Stephen

[00:00:00] Once, Momos and Pop-Hows are you ready for the Battle of September?

[00:00:05] K-Pop releases?

[00:00:07] Let's get into it.

[00:00:08] Yes, and this month we are joined by Jasmine Stephen!

[00:00:15] Hello!

[00:00:17] Welcome to CCTV!

[00:00:20] Thank you guys so much for having me.

[00:00:22] I'm legitimately so excited to talk to you guys and get into it today.

[00:00:26] It gotta be good. I'm so excited.

[00:00:27] So obviously we know you have amazing music taste as a producer on the Kelly Clarkson Show,

[00:00:34] but how about K-Pop? How did you get into it? What are some of your favorite artists? What's the story?

[00:00:39] So I've been in K-Pop for like, I don't even know how long.

[00:00:43] Like the group that I started with was Big Bang.

[00:00:45] Like it was me talking about like, like, now that we're here I'm like,

[00:00:51] I can't remember the song so I have a memory of a goldfish. I abolish that.

[00:00:54] But like, I love Big Bang. I love like 2NE1.

[00:00:58] I was definitely more of the R&B, hip-hop type of girlie and boy band.

[00:01:03] Like XO, like XO BTS got seven. Those, who's my man?

[00:01:09] Like those are the ones that are like,

[00:01:12] like I'm the one who like literally at least like played like XO and got seven to my parents

[00:01:18] and they'd be like, hold on, hold on. I'm like, this is the K-Pop! This is the K-Pop!

[00:01:21] This is the K-Pop! Okay, relax.

[00:01:25] I do that to all of my friends too. Like I'm very notorious for just like letting it play in the car

[00:01:29] and then like, I'm like, these are the boys in the light. That's who that's them.

[00:01:36] Stop. That's now.

[00:01:38] But yeah, I mean, and also being like working out the kind of Clarkson show,

[00:01:41] I'm a big champion of K-Pop. I'm just making sure we get those groups on.

[00:01:44] Like I produce Twice, I produce Eric Thumb, CL, Jackson Wang.

[00:01:48] So like, me and K-Pop, we go together real bad.

[00:01:53] So what you're saying is K-Pop fans should thank you for the plug.

[00:01:58] Y'all heard it. They go together real bad.

[00:02:01] Yes. Yes. And we actually met at a K-Pop concert.

[00:02:05] So it brought us together as well.

[00:02:08] Which K-Pop culture do you mean at?

[00:02:11] In Hypen.

[00:02:12] There we go. In Hypen. I was like, no, it's both.

[00:02:15] Wow.

[00:02:16] Let's all right.

[00:02:17] It happens. It happens. A lot going on.

[00:02:19] So y'all, if you're new to CCTV and our pop-up episodes, every month we put polls up on our Patreon,

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[00:02:29] And you all get to vote for three of K-Pop's biggest releases of the month to battle it out

[00:02:34] in our song, video, and performance rounds. And of course, we pick an ultimate winner.

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[00:02:56] Yes. And as a reminder, this is meant for pure fun.

[00:02:59] So please don't take it too seriously.

[00:03:01] Join in. Let us know what you think of all of these songs and what wins for you.

[00:03:06] So this month you voted for two use, run away, plus says nah and meows meow.

[00:03:14] So let's get ready to rumble.

[00:03:17] Round one.

[00:03:20] First in the ring is Chui with Run Away.

[00:03:24] And this was done by Andrew Rosario, Ella Curran, J.Y. Park, Daven Kingston, and Johnny Simpson.

[00:03:31] And the first round is all about the song itself, so the production,

[00:03:35] the hooks, the melodies, the vocals.

[00:03:37] So Jasmine, as our guest, what do you think of Run Away?

[00:03:44] It went into Run Away.

[00:03:48] I like it's kind of a, and like I love Twice.

[00:03:55] Like I produced in the show, I know that they are hardworking girls.

[00:03:57] They really, they like give their all for their craft.

[00:04:00] But for me, the song just really didn't do anything.

[00:04:03] I literally wrote down meh on my sheet right here because it's like,

[00:04:09] it's very repetitive.

[00:04:10] It's kind of the same melody over and over and over again.

[00:04:14] The beat is kind of the same again.

[00:04:17] She sounds very pretty on the song.

[00:04:19] It's like, it's very nice.

[00:04:20] It's very nice in her vocal range.

[00:04:22] But besides that for me, the song just kind of just,

[00:04:25] it did nothing.

[00:04:26] It went nowhere.

[00:04:27] And like I am fortunately going to have to run away from it.

[00:04:31] It's just Jesus, not my thing.

[00:04:35] Sorry, Chewie.

[00:04:36] Like listen, love you.

[00:04:37] Think you're amazing.

[00:04:38] It just wasn't, this song wasn't for me.

[00:04:41] You know what?

[00:04:41] That's so valid.

[00:04:43] I remember hearing the song and I was sitting there like,

[00:04:45] why do I know this melody?

[00:04:47] It reminded me so much of,

[00:04:49] oh, I just died in your eyes.

[00:04:52] I was doing nothing.

[00:04:53] Yeah, right.

[00:04:54] So I was like, okay, you're going to give us a little bit of A.

[00:04:57] And he's going to do something.

[00:04:58] I'm going to give it something.

[00:04:59] I mean, it sounds like something from Future Nostalgia.

[00:05:01] Like not in a bad way.

[00:05:05] But unfortunately, like you were saying, it doesn't go anywhere.

[00:05:08] I do appreciate that they let her sing in the beginning with minimal vocals.

[00:05:12] That was unexpected because being a once,

[00:05:15] she has not been my favorite vocalist.

[00:05:18] But they do let her sing quite often, which I understand why.

[00:05:22] But she sounds pretty good.

[00:05:23] I was watching the behind the scenes.

[00:05:24] Like she took the direction pretty well.

[00:05:26] But she is just pleasant.

[00:05:28] She doesn't have a vocal texture that is distinctive to her.

[00:05:31] With Gio, you could hear a lot of,

[00:05:34] she's very chesty when she sings,

[00:05:36] but she's the technique's good.

[00:05:38] With Nia, she's a little bit more naïvely.

[00:05:39] And you have Sui right now.

[00:05:41] It's just kind of just not really giving much.

[00:05:43] The lyrics are giving this gentle warning of like,

[00:05:45] if I take you in my arms, you're going to fall in love.

[00:05:47] Are you ready for that?

[00:05:48] It's giving slow burn.

[00:05:50] It feels a little dangerous, but the vocals don't go there.

[00:05:52] The production doesn't go there.

[00:05:54] And because of that, it's lacking a personality.

[00:05:56] And honestly, it's pleasant.

[00:05:58] And it does do a fine job of sounding

[00:05:59] like it would have been better for the group

[00:06:01] as opposed to a solo song.

[00:06:02] And honestly, I listened to this album

[00:06:04] and I feel like the song Loose Sleep

[00:06:05] would have been a more interesting for a release

[00:06:08] because we already know her for being

[00:06:09] so sophisticated and romantic seeming and,

[00:06:12] oh, the damsel.

[00:06:14] Loose Sleep has a little bit more of a fun beat.

[00:06:18] It's a little bit more percussive.

[00:06:19] It just wouldn't have been something different

[00:06:19] and unexpected for her.

[00:06:20] But this was felt very much like,

[00:06:22] here is your name.

[00:06:23] You drive right on the,

[00:06:25] but was it the speed limit or like too under the FEMA?

[00:06:30] Just poor baby.

[00:06:31] But not terrible.

[00:06:32] Not terrible.

[00:06:33] It's just, yeah.

[00:06:34] No, just meh, like you said for sure.

[00:06:37] She definitely is not my favorite twice member.

[00:06:40] Sorry.

[00:06:41] I have said this before in previous episodes.

[00:06:44] She is just one that I tend to forget.

[00:06:46] Like she, she's very beautiful.

[00:06:50] And I know that's kind of what she's kind of known for

[00:06:53] more so than like the voice and stuff.

[00:06:56] But I just really had no expectations

[00:06:59] going in for her as a solo artist.

[00:07:02] You're giving kind of the Dua Lipa comparison

[00:07:03] that totally makes sense.

[00:07:05] I can definitely hear it as like a future nostalgia

[00:07:08] beside or reject.

[00:07:10] I think when it started,

[00:07:13] I was optimistic because I think it starts

[00:07:15] super dramatic.

[00:07:17] Yeah.

[00:07:17] It kind of kicks into this kind of 80s,

[00:07:19] esca 90s, esca electro pop thing.

[00:07:22] But then it just doesn't really go anywhere.

[00:07:24] It is catchy.

[00:07:25] It has like an interesting melancholy to it.

[00:07:28] Dang it.

[00:07:30] Oh, run, run away.

[00:07:32] Hey, cool.

[00:07:33] I was like, because I wanted to like catchy where like,

[00:07:36] I don't remember how it goes.

[00:07:37] Like to me, catchy is like that earworm.

[00:07:40] It's stuck.

[00:07:41] I mean, I do remember it.

[00:07:42] I do remember it.

[00:07:42] I only listened to it, you know, a couple of times.

[00:07:44] I was like, you know what?

[00:07:45] But I can see it.

[00:07:46] I'm not taking back.

[00:07:47] I'm sorry.

[00:07:49] Okay.

[00:07:51] Vocally, I do think it is held back

[00:07:53] because if Dua Lipa is saying this,

[00:07:55] there would be a lot more texture to it.

[00:07:57] Yeah.

[00:07:57] She just doesn't have much tone changes really.

[00:08:03] She uses her head voice a little bit,

[00:08:05] which sounds nice.

[00:08:06] And there's just extreme tuning on that little run in the chorus.

[00:08:10] It sounds so bad.

[00:08:12] Like honestly, I watched that behind the scenes studio thing too.

[00:08:17] It's fine.

[00:08:19] It's tough.

[00:08:19] Like she just doesn't have the range to kind of keep my interest for a full song.

[00:08:25] So,

[00:08:25] Oh man, that's tough.

[00:08:27] I have not listened to the rest of the project though.

[00:08:29] So,

[00:08:30] I will say this stuff on it's a little bit better,

[00:08:33] a little bit more fun.

[00:08:33] This feels like a safe seat.

[00:08:35] Yeah.

[00:08:36] Once I think you guys would agree.

[00:08:38] Well, let's move on to player two.

[00:08:40] Maybe we'll like this one more.

[00:08:42] This is Hwasa with Na and this one was done by

[00:08:45] Sai Yugung-hyung, TbHits, Amanda Ratchford,

[00:08:50] Marion Rudette, Theron Thomas,

[00:08:53] Shenei An, Trisha Bhattani,

[00:08:55] Yehara P.K. Deggadingsseze,

[00:08:58] Heno Mekko and Damien.

[00:09:00] That is a lot of names.

[00:09:02] Congratulations.

[00:09:03] You haven't had a long rest of the names so long on the show.

[00:09:06] I usually get like somehow accidentally stuck with that.

[00:09:10] And so this is her first release with P Nation, right?

[00:09:14] Oh yes.

[00:09:14] Yes.

[00:09:15] Okay, so that's Sai's label.

[00:09:17] I love myself, no.

[00:09:18] I love myself.

[00:09:19] I love my body.

[00:09:20] Oh yeah, you're right.

[00:09:21] Okay, so one of her first releases she recently joined

[00:09:23] like in the past year or so, Sai's label.

[00:09:26] Yeah.

[00:09:27] So Jasmine what do you think of Na?

[00:09:31] I love Hwasa.

[00:09:33] She's got some really beautiful other pieces that I listen to on a daily,

[00:09:36] like that really touched me and her voice is very deep and it's got texture and it's gorgeous.

[00:09:44] Yeah.

[00:09:46] This didn't play to any of those strings whatsoever.

[00:09:48] Right.

[00:09:49] This was just, it's so funny when you said Sai because the whole time I was like,

[00:09:53] is this a Sai song?

[00:09:54] Because it sounds like, I wanted Dundam style.

[00:09:57] Like I just wanted like, it just gave me that 100%.

[00:10:00] So for me it was just kind of like Hwasa, like you just have a great voice.

[00:10:07] She's got such great, like when she sings it is commanding.

[00:10:10] It just wasn't, this is not the song that commands.

[00:10:13] This is a fun song.

[00:10:14] This is just like kind of like, I'm singing, I'm doing the thing,

[00:10:18] I need to make a song but it just didn't really do it for me.

[00:10:22] Now I did like the production a little bit more.

[00:10:26] I like the beat of this a little bit more.

[00:10:28] This house music thing is kind of taken over K-pop a little bit more.

[00:10:32] It's really funny to me to watch the way trends from here, from America to Korea.

[00:10:37] But again, like for me it just, to me this wasn't her strongest,

[00:10:42] it wasn't her strongest song I've ever heard her do before.

[00:10:47] I truly love Hwasa.

[00:10:49] Like I am a Hwasa fan.

[00:10:51] I said something similar.

[00:10:52] I was like, it sounds like a female version of a Sai track.

[00:10:55] And I think it's because in the beginning you don't know what to expect.

[00:10:59] You get this kind of like mix of garage, some like 90s diva house moment.

[00:11:03] But then that chorus comes around and it sounds like a jock jam.

[00:11:06] It sounds like something that Sai could have done but maybe like a little pitched up.

[00:11:11] But to her defense, it kind of leans a little bit more to what

[00:11:14] maybe Mamamoo would have done in the earlier days with her quirkier singles.

[00:11:18] And even still it's kind of a dims in comparison to what they do as a whole or did as a whole

[00:11:22] before the whole reggaeton.

[00:11:25] Oh god.

[00:11:27] Woo!

[00:11:27] Reggae, whatever they were doing.

[00:11:29] And before all of that, the quirkiness of talking about how much I love myself and

[00:11:32] like the quirkiness of the tracks, they never lean toward that whole like bouncy bass sound.

[00:11:37] But this kind of fits in there and I guess I want to say it's like toned down because

[00:11:42] it's definitely not toned down.

[00:11:43] That beat is so like, yeah you want a jam?

[00:11:46] Now welcome to the jam!

[00:11:47] You know, this is fine.

[00:11:48] I love a good jock jam.

[00:11:51] That being said though, I did actually like that it was a little quirky sounding

[00:11:57] because she does have, first of all her face is very serious looking, her voice is freaking

[00:12:01] serious.

[00:12:03] When she sings a ballad you're like, oh she means this.

[00:12:05] All right so this one's a little bit more fun in terms of like her using her voice.

[00:12:09] She sings very much like not acapella but like minimal production in the beginning like

[00:12:14] Chewy did and then the stuff kicks in and the second verse she's being a little bit more

[00:12:18] cheeky, a little bit more flirty.

[00:12:20] And I love the seamless blend of me myself and I.

[00:12:22] Myself and I, I was like, oh yes!

[00:12:25] I do remember hearing the song and being like, dang I wish I would have wrote this.

[00:12:28] This is like fun and like fun and simple.

[00:12:30] I wouldn't say mindless.

[00:12:32] Fun, simple and kind of like catchy enough for you to kind of be walking down the street

[00:12:35] and like bopping going to the gym.

[00:12:37] This has a little bit more personality and I would say toward the end that last chorus

[00:12:41] brings me back in whereas if it would have stayed as the same like one chorus with no like

[00:12:48] B chorus I'd probably be like okay this song is kind of boring.

[00:12:51] Like we've done something else but just at the end there's a change of melody,

[00:12:55] a change of just the lyric and the sentiment is still the same.

[00:12:58] Her brand is I love myself.

[00:13:00] I'm confident and I'm accepting of anything other than real love

[00:13:03] for myself and from other people.

[00:13:05] So it's on brand, it makes sense but it is definitely like in size image in a little bit

[00:13:11] like a sexy version of Psy so it's my only like fatigue really.

[00:13:17] I don't even know Psy that well and I could tell immediately that it was him.

[00:13:23] Like I was like oh okay.

[00:13:25] So that's kind of cool that he has such a distinctive sound and I really only know like

[00:13:28] the couple of his singles.

[00:13:30] So that's great for him.

[00:13:32] I appreciate the kind of silliness to it which is something that Mamamoo had but I feel like

[00:13:39] Solar and Moonbyul kind of leaned into it a bit more than the other two did so I think seeing

[00:13:44] Quasa do this it's interesting for her discography because I think people just kind of

[00:13:48] know her from you know the Maria and the twit and kind of the darker sexier stuff.

[00:13:55] So I think it's in the breadth of her discography it is interesting you know it shows a different

[00:14:01] side to her.

[00:14:02] The song is not really to my taste though like would I ever choose to listen to this?

[00:14:07] Probably not but I think her execution is good she sounds really good.

[00:14:14] And yeah like you were both saying she has a very distinctive tone as well and so it's

[00:14:18] kind of nice to hear her kind of on something a little bit lighter I guess.

[00:14:22] So yeah nothing else really to add on top of what you both said it's fine but I do love her as well.

[00:14:29] Broken record but there's better songs on her album that's all to say that I listened

[00:14:33] Eagle could have been good the title track would have been fine.

[00:14:38] There's a yeah yeah yeah oof.

[00:14:41] I will say also it's it is catchy though I will say talk talk to me nice.

[00:14:46] Better talk to me.

[00:14:47] I know I remember.

[00:14:47] I was like okay I like I appreciate the catching us but like I think I just like

[00:14:53] I'm a little hard on people because I'm very like like I really love music like I went to

[00:14:57] school for music too like so like for me it's like get it right get it right.

[00:15:03] This is why you're perfect for our show.

[00:15:06] Yeah that's why I'm just laughing.

[00:15:10] Go off.

[00:15:11] All right up next is our final player and it's meow with meow.

[00:15:18] This was done by 24 Jumper Zikai Claudia Valentina and I'm surprised I don't see

[00:15:25] some names such as Becca boom and Teddy really all of them and Teddy probably executive producer

[00:15:29] but like at this point like it's not like he I did this myself with Becca.

[00:15:36] So Ms. Jasmine thoughts concerns prayers prayers prayers.

[00:15:45] I need to like fully explain my thoughts and meow before we get to that okay so meow and at first

[00:15:52] even like heard about the group it was like okay cool new group coming out from Black Label

[00:15:56] Fine by Fine the trailer for this group is then walking through an airport or some type of things

[00:16:01] with security gate oh yeah and frustrated me to know it.

[00:16:05] So I went into listening to the song in a frustrated headspace that probably

[00:16:16] first the voices sound fine together they sound but again their voices aren't it doesn't sound

[00:16:22] special to me it doesn't sound like for this to be the title track this to be a new group

[00:16:27] I was just very much like this is a really nice Blackpink song this is a really nice Blackpink song

[00:16:36] and it was like it's like we're all like the dance I only get the dances later sorry huh

[00:16:44] it's just to me it's just like an it was just for your debut song it just didn't do

[00:16:50] much to me like I said they sound nice together I liked the lyrics of it because it was like

[00:16:55] it's again it's that if it's more into my space which is hip hop and r&b so I did like that I but like

[00:17:04] again for me like catchy in my ear I don't really can't remember the chorus that well I can't

[00:17:08] really remember anything that well it's just and this is not just because I haven't

[00:17:12] ever read of a goldfish I listened to these songs four or five times before I jumped in

[00:17:16] today and I still can't like catch it so for me and it's another meh

[00:17:22] oh sorry you know don't apologize you're being honest and I think I'm just gonna get it out the way

[00:17:27] now I feel like a lot of people have been saying that the discourse on YouTube such with the YouTube

[00:17:32] essayists have been like this is just another version of Teddy um Teddy's tracks in 24s worked

[00:17:37] on a lot of Blackpink's tracks as well I mean he's been with YG he just moved over to Black

[00:17:42] Label I love what they call Black Label there's not a single Black person that works out the

[00:17:45] label but go off I'll say it again T shade the shade that even makes you feel better but

[00:17:52] I think because of that they're lacking certain certain sonics that would set their songs apart

[00:17:59] as opposed to being influenced by why not just bring the people who make the r&b make the hip

[00:18:03] up that you like because they might bring different influences as opposed like this EDM

[00:18:06] that we grew up in 2020 10 and hip hop that you grew up when you were like

[00:18:11] 19 something Teddy and friends um now the whole lyricism is about being braggadocious I'm rich

[00:18:17] I'm cool and then the minimal chorus and then the brance the dance break ending I guarantee there's

[00:18:22] a demo somewhere with them actually chanting on that last guarantee I don't know but exist

[00:18:28] well I'm saying that it exists I'm telling you because the way that ending was so bare

[00:18:32] with a bunch of yeah yeah yeah I can't you can't imagine how many years that

[00:18:36] in the songs as such such a lazy lazy kind of way of presenting something but also to their

[00:18:43] defense I don't think the song was meant to be anything except a here's the girls we are the girls

[00:18:49] like similar to the less serif him came out and it was like fearless they had a bump up a bump

[00:18:54] bump bump they said it over and over again like for me I was like this song is a seven it's not

[00:18:57] doing much but what it did was say hi we're cool we're giving editorial this one is giving

[00:19:04] hi we're cool we can dance a lot better than our predecessors video we're talking about the song I know

[00:19:13] I know but if you think about it the song is geared to be danceable like there's a there's a

[00:19:17] bilay funk thing going on so for the whole idea was let's focus on making it a performance track

[00:19:23] hence that we will dance better than these girls you know that's what that's yeah it lacks

[00:19:30] creativity on some parts of the song isn't terrible and I think with Claudia Valentine I think the

[00:19:36] songwriter she's this British songwriter Valentina excuse me she sings exactly the way we heard these

[00:19:44] girls sing the whole thing and then what's not bad but it's her voice um so I guess if no one's

[00:19:51] ever heard her sing before it's like wow finally they have a voice because my complaint with

[00:19:55] baby monster was they didn't have a sound it was just black pink demos they didn't have

[00:19:59] a beckaboo they didn't have a lydia peck the way that 21 had lydia maybe claudia is they're going

[00:20:05] to be their main girl I don't know but maybe it might help because the girls in terms of vocal tone

[00:20:11] and I kind of similar but I will say there's two of them that made me go oh hang on her little

[00:20:16] a little a slight little trill I'll give a whole run but a little trill uh it was not in the one

[00:20:22] who sings the intro verse uh and the first part of the chorus and then ta won she sings

[00:20:28] right after there are some false settles in there which I appreciate because we were not getting that

[00:20:33] from the black pink and um and baby monster they can sing but they're getting black pink in them

[00:20:39] songs so eh I like the bassiness of it I like how like when your face it is and I do appreciate

[00:20:46] that the rapping seems secondary like it's in verse two but they went right back to singing and I was

[00:20:50] like eh do not have the second verse be all about raps so I guess in terms of trying to separate them

[00:20:59] from black pink is not the best job but it's not the worst job and also having baby monster kind of

[00:21:05] like a couple months uh debut like before them it doesn't sound too much like baby monster

[00:21:11] sound like black thing you just sound like black pink in the 2024 kind of thing you know like

[00:21:17] I'm trying y'all I mean they tried I can hear the potential in the song yeah but I don't actually

[00:21:24] like the song really um I feel like it's again I feel like it's been the same for all three of these

[00:21:30] that it it starts off kind of strong or at least intriguing right so this one you have the yeah

[00:21:36] yeah yeah and then because of very kind of like build yeah for the intro but then it just gets

[00:21:41] repeated and then the song just doesn't climax the way that I want it to because like you said

[00:21:45] it has that built-in dance break which just feels so done before and like you said that's clearly meant

[00:21:52] to be performed but that doesn't mean I want to listen to it then you know uh I do agree with you

[00:21:57] on the track though I appreciate how heavy the bass is there's a lot of empty space in the production

[00:22:02] as well so it makes kind of every little production element stand out I think the pre-chorus is

[00:22:08] probably my favorite part just where it gets a little twinklier there's some nice rasp

[00:22:12] and kind of singing there but then the chorus doesn't like give me the full energy that I wanted

[00:22:18] to I guess that they were just trying to keep it one word over and over again yeah

[00:22:23] and I just trying to keep they were trying to keep it cool quote unquote I guess yeah yeah I wanted

[00:22:30] it to be more than that yes yes oh um I don't know how many groups debuted this year but I think

[00:22:40] a lot let's say I like their debut a little bit more than um baby monsters

[00:22:46] better than batter up better than batter up yes or no I agree better than better

[00:22:50] not just better than better up all right I think that's a tenny was trying to do at this point

[00:22:54] he's like as long as you don't come over that oh gosh that being said yes who takes the song

[00:23:02] round for you seven I'm gonna give him a watha I'm gonna give it to giving it to watha

[00:23:08] I will also give it to watha I will say meow was in like second but then it's just an

[00:23:14] go anywhere all right round two moving on to the second round which is our video round all right so

[00:23:28] taking it back up to the top with chili's run away okay so you know for me I just want to get

[00:23:35] this out the way before once get in my butt I'll listen she looks gorgeous she looks beautiful the hair

[00:23:42] the makeup the gowns beautiful gowns all the gowns

[00:23:48] now it's out of the way okay once you get past all of the image of her uh I appreciate that the

[00:23:57] video actually leans toward that dangerous aspect of falling in love that I was mentioning

[00:24:01] before I'm like you get a little obsessed again I mean dream about the person like it was like you

[00:24:07] know deja vu and places like I like that it was really dark too the video was dark she's dancing

[00:24:13] silhouette is she's dancing in a in a in a parking lot or a basement of some scary place either way

[00:24:19] just seems really creepy there's a red string of fade it was it was just very strange she's

[00:24:24] hugging and touching the man and there's blood and not a lot of blood but just enough of being

[00:24:28] like oh she's dangerous watch out femme fatale now aside from that the creepy aspect of video great

[00:24:35] the colors wow the color grading wow the lighting wow amazing beyond that the pleasant aesthetic

[00:24:41] the video didn't quite hold my attention uh it seems like the people who made the video did

[00:24:46] understand the assignment but kind of stopped short of actually pushing that button that

[00:24:50] either her actually causing this person harm and I feel like it's just stopping short of

[00:24:57] actually kind of being like you know she's trouble as opposed to like I'm just really pretty

[00:25:01] and I perfect and we're gonna have a happy like together I'm scary I'm pretty pretty scary I just go

[00:25:07] for it like lead into it I think it's just again is not pushing the button she's so beautiful she can

[00:25:12] get it she can get away with anything at this point well she could sit there and be like oh yeah

[00:25:17] I'd be like oh my god she could have killed she could have off the man and people would

[00:25:21] have been like wow an amazing video and it could have been amazing it would have been

[00:25:24] man eater thank you come on come on yeah oh yeah I just I think whoever did this concept they were

[00:25:33] like okay she's kind of known for just being super beautiful and she has this kind of blank doll

[00:25:39] face that everyone loves so let's just kind of capitalize on that and then we can make it mildly

[00:25:45] creepy so she can just use her blank expression and it works new ain't right that's what I get

[00:25:52] for this because like you don't really yeah it just doesn't really go anywhere like what is she

[00:25:57] actually feeling what are her intentions with this man like why is he randomly in a field of flowers

[00:26:03] for three seconds at the end oh yeah yes I just don't understand what anything had to do with

[00:26:09] anything like why is she dancing on the stair of the red carpet of this like theater oh yeah

[00:26:14] like none of this connected at all I did enjoy the scene of her in the empty room with like

[00:26:20] the backlit windows at night time yeah that was it like I just don't get what they were going for

[00:26:27] like she and she just has no facial expressions they were trying to do something they were trying to

[00:26:32] send me full moon it was trying to get creepy like that but it just just felt sort of it I guess

[00:26:36] I don't know there's just no fire you know in her at all like it just feels I just get nothing

[00:26:42] oh poor baby oh I enjoyed it there was actually an actual member of the opposite sex in the

[00:26:49] video oh my god yes I love that because it wasn't like inferred like oh like but it was she was touching

[00:26:54] on like you said touching on a villain on them I love that and like you said that love the red

[00:26:58] string of fate I love all that stuff but to me again it was it's just like it's just kind of like

[00:27:04] and you guys are creepy I didn't even bit the creep factor I was like oh look blood

[00:27:13] what are we doing and then like it did just like in her dancing like I do love

[00:27:17] like that she was dancing and then she was I believe she was dancing with seven members or eight

[00:27:22] it was like I love when the solo acts do dance with other members because it's almost kind of like

[00:27:26] an illusion like alluding to the group I love those moments that happens with any solo artists

[00:27:31] with but like it was just in her outfits were kind of again very like it was just

[00:27:37] romantic and flowy it was just like if you were taking the vocals from that song and put

[00:27:42] a different song on top of that music video nothing would have changed you probably would

[00:27:46] have liked the music video more honestly so you know what they have you right

[00:27:53] and it just didn't it just I hate that you're right again oh no gorgeous girl gorgeous gorgeous

[00:27:59] girl gorgeous gorgeous gout it just wasn't and it wasn't giving me it wasn't giving me what I

[00:28:05] needed from it so oh man interesting you know oh I can go on about chewy but gotta move on

[00:28:14] to the next which is wasa all right wasa now

[00:28:22] this video was given all types of sophisticated into mirror woman in the beginning all right and then

[00:28:27] they just switched up but I get I think it all just ties into wasa's brand and also her own

[00:28:35] personality she works the camera like I said not like really flirty and cheeky way she's good

[00:28:38] at that but she's also good at a good smolder honey she can give you eyes she can give you

[00:28:42] you want me I might want you maybe possibly but I know you want me she'll give you that and you

[00:28:48] can see that you can feel that from her very confident um I love the camera work in this video it's

[00:28:53] following her she's constantly on the go she's not chasing the camera the camera trying to

[00:28:56] keep up with her and you can tell it by the motions like she's walking forward and I either the

[00:29:00] track the way they're tracking her is just very cleverly filmed there's a little slight bit of

[00:29:06] chaos in the strobing of the scenes like the quick cuts um in the pre-chorus here in there

[00:29:10] but like the whole idea is to keep your attention she sent her every single freaking frame to

[00:29:16] like she's not like off there's nothing dirtying up the shots except her and I'm like wow

[00:29:21] whoever did this video was like we're gonna keep it really simple we're gonna go to paris

[00:29:24] and we're gonna this stuff all the way up um I think the video does a good job as like

[00:29:31] showing that you can be a lady and still do something crazy and fun because people especially

[00:29:35] women are not just one thing and considering what she's went through the past year with

[00:29:40] her playing with her her boom-boom at the at the university I'm pretty sure she oh you didn't know

[00:29:45] about that okay what's talking about in a second but yeah so she was playing with her boom-boom at

[00:29:51] and they find her and she was upset about it that's why I love my body came out and now

[00:29:55] she's like ooh you can be being a little crazy and in the video she's giving it to you

[00:30:00] she's getting kind of a little down and dirty with the dance moves she's giving you elegant

[00:30:03] she's giving you is giving you know without her actually having to play with her boom-boom

[00:30:08] you know so she's but yeah I again gorgeous gowns gorgeous gowns but also great personality

[00:30:16] but yeah do you want to explain the boom-boom thing oh yeah so yeah because like I'm like

[00:30:23] can't just say oh yeah she was playing with a boom-boom at the university and like all right

[00:30:29] all right so you know how kpop idols perform at festivals was invited to a festival I cannot

[00:30:39] remember which college it was but while she was there she was singing and she went like little kim

[00:30:43] baby album style and was like kind of patting the boom-boom a little bit and they were like

[00:30:48] the parents like nah the pta of college students were like nah get out of here what you what you

[00:30:54] do when airing the boom-boom so they were like nah since you can't do that so she got in trouble

[00:30:59] and people are like oh I can't believe they did that but at the end of the day it's a college if they

[00:31:02] said they don't want the parents are paying for the kids to go there if they don't want to pay for

[00:31:06] the boom-boom honey can't be mad at the boom-boom getting getting sausage so yeah she was like

[00:31:14] she was a little bit kind of got attacked for that because people were like well she's a raunchy

[00:31:18] the sat in the third but again I understand the parents are like listen I did not pay for my kid

[00:31:23] this is the natural watches girl so yeah that being said that's the situation um but yeah

[00:31:31] she she's she was feeling herself without actually having to feel herself and that's my point

[00:31:37] plus uh boom boom 2024 who knew yes that should be the name of the next single for sure

[00:31:44] yeah um first off she definitely has the charisma that Chewie does not like the natural

[00:31:53] X factor because like you said I never took my eyes off of her and a lot of that is of course

[00:31:58] the way that they filmed it and edited it as well but there's a ton of dancers around her and I

[00:32:02] don't think I ever looked at them once yeah unlike Chewie during which I did look at the other

[00:32:08] dancers quite a lot yeah so so yeah there's always that but um yeah I appreciate how kind of classy

[00:32:16] she looks and I like that she never I don't know she kind of keeps the workiness to a minimum which

[00:32:26] almost makes it more quirky like she doesn't do any crazy faces she doesn't do anything crazy

[00:32:32] like dance move wise either she keeps it all quite contained but then because the song is kind of quirky

[00:32:41] and even I don't know she's still there's like a cheekiness to it that I appreciate

[00:32:46] Audrey Hepburn with the croissant like she's wearing a gown writing this yes it's just quirky enough

[00:32:51] without us you know her spilling the crumbs on her shirt is just yes I get it yeah yeah

[00:32:56] and I think it's funny with some of the public areas like for example when she's in the park

[00:33:01] you can see all the people in the background that are just staring at her as well like I kind of love

[00:33:05] that they didn't just kind of shut down everything yeah they let that kind of happen because it is

[00:33:10] kind of weird to see them randomly doing that in the middle of Paris uh so yeah I thought this was

[00:33:16] fun there's maybe like the song more than when I had just listened to it yeah same I really like

[00:33:22] this music video as someone like I love Paris and so seeing it anyway I love that she had

[00:33:27] like had a murder and like you said the quirkiness of having like mustard on her cheek like in this

[00:33:31] really elegant big floppy hat and then like drinking like a cup of tea like on a fuck well like on the

[00:33:37] top of a rooftop in Paris somewhere it was just like to me it was just it was just fun and it was

[00:33:43] free and I really enjoyed it like and like when you listen to the song you're kind of like uh

[00:33:49] but when you watch the when you watch the video with it she's like like me myself and I like

[00:33:54] doing the dances with it just like you're like okay it's all connecting it's all like it's all making

[00:33:59] sense I loved her outfits like that polka-dotted um lip polka-dotted uh belted was I don't know

[00:34:06] the unitar don't know what's called right now my brain doesn't work you know love that I

[00:34:10] loves her just like it made me go like oh this girl really also loves herself and she loves Paris

[00:34:15] and she wanted to put a lot of emotions together so very much a fan okay moving on to our final

[00:34:23] player and it's meow I'm trying to say with an accent to because this is the v meal you know

[00:34:30] I just don't understand like is it just because they want it to be quirky with the two

[00:34:34] v's because you know sometimes the v replaces the a in certain things sure so yeah it kind of

[00:34:39] makes that you know all right yeah okay so what do you think so I will say that the video

[00:34:46] is very typical yg but it the whole like the whole theme of the video seems to be

[00:34:53] almost relatable almost almost and I mean this to say like in the past what

[00:35:00] by being about like six years ago black pink it's a baby monster it's all been

[00:35:04] where you look like we're wearing designer we look like we're on a set we look like you

[00:35:11] can't afford us this one here it's giving cool girls at school like cool rich girls at the

[00:35:15] school but it's still like hey we all sit them we saw them at lunch today it wasn't like

[00:35:18] they're like you know it was like they're wearing uniform they're all wearing like

[00:35:22] public school girl clothes they're all out in the streets you know getting real gutta you know so

[00:35:30] we were together and then you're like that's what I said the south

[00:35:35] okay no but you see the subway right their hood because you know okay I'm saying this

[00:35:43] because you know how yg gets or a lot of k-pop videos get when they're trying to translate their

[00:35:47] urban scene to their very much non-conquered typical urban communities okay I'm gonna say

[00:35:55] they don't even got the ghettos y'all got ghettos out there too but it's just it doesn't look like

[00:35:59] new york but they somehow created it but on top of that I don't like how sterile it looked

[00:36:04] because everything was black and white like an insane asylum yeah I was like is this a prison

[00:36:08] prison and all the crazies are like no you know it just wasn't I don't know

[00:36:16] you know but my thing is with this video all jokes aside though um at least they look believably

[00:36:23] believably styled as young teen girls from like age i guess 17 to like 19 they look believable it's

[00:36:28] not like they're wearing freaking corsets and shorts and fishnets and boots and looking like

[00:36:32] they belong on a stage performing after four you know four or five years of being like out um I do

[00:36:39] believe that the video much like a lot of k-pop videos now are missing the joke at this point

[00:36:46] your son was called meow you got a giant paw with little rhinestones and chains and charms

[00:36:52] as your freaking logo and you guys didn't think to put more more cats I'm not saying be like

[00:36:57] like tell us what cat lady but like why are we not kind of just sitting on a table just being

[00:37:01] a little cat like or having like cat like shadows or something that's the black cat personality is a

[00:37:07] hot term on social media why are we not leaning more into that why are we not like just play with it I'm

[00:37:12] not saying be stupid like wear cat suits and freaking dance around like a bunch of jerks

[00:37:16] I would have loved that maybe it said because you brought us Sasquatches

[00:37:22] yeddies if you will whatever yeddie he said walkies yeah woocie and they're bringing them

[00:37:28] burritos it would have been better maybe it would have been better if they were cats giant cats it would

[00:37:32] have been so cute and on top of that would have been a branding thing you had a meow you had how many

[00:37:36] members x amount of cat suits there you go right there now each of the girl has their own mascot

[00:37:40] it's cool in k-pop now you could have been selling kitty cat toys at this point but here I am

[00:37:44] my mama's basement not know what the hell I'm talking about apparently what I needed more hello kitty

[00:37:50] and it was just giving a little bit like hello gritty you know and I think that's where they

[00:37:55] kind of miss the markets too busy trying to be cool as opposed to just like you know well we had just

[00:38:01] released our video for our episode reviewing little mixes solo debuts and we did talk about jessie nelson

[00:38:09] and kind of her attempt at being hood and her music video and this just reminded me of that

[00:38:16] because that's just been in my head because they're so young that we're trying to make these

[00:38:21] faces with the teeth and the you know with the uh yeah it does not it's not convincing to me

[00:38:29] overall I would say there are moments where they look a little cooler like for example in the

[00:38:33] second verse when they're in that prison cafeteria you know um and they're just a little more relaxed

[00:38:39] about it instead of trying to make all these like hard faces and stuff yeah but I don't know just

[00:38:43] like them on the basketball court with the graffiti and then the subway station like

[00:38:49] it just feels so done before and just not convincing at all yeah um and then the final dance break

[00:38:57] surely they could have come up with something more interesting than being on stage in all white

[00:39:01] like what was that oh my god yeah obviously the scenes that did stand out to me were them

[00:39:07] on the giant stuffed cat yes and then the random forest wookie moment like I wanted more random

[00:39:13] crap like that that had something to do with cats in some way yeah like it makes no sense to me that

[00:39:20] they didn't lean into it like you were saying before so I really don't understand yeah what they

[00:39:25] were thinking where's the disconnect so we open to four these five girls and slow pad

[00:39:32] were showing each one right yeah me I mean I was going on the background then all of a sudden

[00:39:37] beat drops wide party and just like when I see that I'm just like oh okay um and then it was just like

[00:39:49] oh no never mind party now we're sitting on top of a train with shakes oh okay uh and then I'm just

[00:39:55] like oh now we're in the sub I was just like oh my gosh okay you had the white psych for three days

[00:40:00] you went through and changed it out every every every couple hours you found a bunch of girls in

[00:40:06] the street and not and then also and I know this is stupid but this is something that is like

[00:40:11] if you're gonna have a group that is once you wanted to be a group that all people look at

[00:40:16] and stuff like that that party scene I needed to see more people of color there are people

[00:40:21] of color in Korea you could went out and found them I have no about seven of them and I could

[00:40:25] have sent them your way it's like you know like you can't like especially because of the

[00:40:30] hip hop r&b thong you're trying to be cool you're trying to be good like I saw a half black

[00:40:35] half Korean girl and I was like so there's one there's actually half apologies I hang on hang on

[00:40:41] in their defense they had an orange person that tiger woman on the right he was there

[00:40:49] damn too excited no but I think for me it's just like it's just another like

[00:40:57] they they have come from they're coming from like a long thing like girl groups who are r&b

[00:41:04] and hip hip hop they come correct and they come hard they come from a lineage of two any like

[00:41:09] 21 even I'll give you black pink like they come correct that's all I'm asking you do is come

[00:41:16] correct come hard and this just was it was just a shot and a miss and I hope that they I hope

[00:41:22] that they I hope that they put out something else that can surprise me I'm always open to that

[00:41:26] but like I am just like meow and you need to go back to the candle baby you got candle cloth

[00:41:32] it's oh Jesus oh Jesus okay that being said what a pretty old wedding for you I think there might be

[00:41:41] a clear winner here sand what would you what would you pick am I speaking on behalf of on behalf of the

[00:41:47] of the trees am I the Lorax shall I say it for all of us okay for me for me I will give it to

[00:41:56] but I will say that meow is a second it's second I'll give them a little oh day I don't need to

[00:42:04] watch that one again hwasa wins like by miles yeah by yeah by yeah by yeah by wow you're a

[00:42:09] mile for me too of putting y'all even close to hwasa at this point feels like disrespect to her

[00:42:14] it's like it's like winter and then you gotta wait a couple days and then mentioned yeah yeah

[00:42:18] okay yeah like five to seven business days like yeah that's valid I agree I agree I agree moving on to

[00:42:28] the final round round three and this is about the performance and the choreography

[00:42:40] Chris pick us up what do you think okay back to chewy to run away uh

[00:42:47] uh okay I said earlier she just has never stood out to me just as a performer either

[00:42:54] and so I was actually kind of curious to see kind of how she would do on stage unfortunately it was

[00:43:01] basically what I expected she really doesn't have much of a natural stage presence so I will say

[00:43:09] the choreography that she was given fits her like it is very feminine it's very pretty there's a lot

[00:43:15] like neck and hips and flowy arms and flicks and stuff um you know she's like kind of tall I don't

[00:43:23] know she's like linky it's very like lean and lean and lean and it's like you know

[00:43:28] smell okay yeah there are some like some fast arm like posing moments in the second verse and stuff

[00:43:33] that she executes well uh I say this a lot with kpop but there are moments that are way too fast

[00:43:41] in this for no reason because she can't even like for example those three hip rolls and stuff like

[00:43:47] all that just feels like a little rushed there are just moments where it feels like she's supposed

[00:43:52] to kind of just breathe into things a bit more flow into things a bit more and she has to cut

[00:43:56] it off to kind of go on to the next move um and there were a few just awkward dance moves

[00:44:02] in there for me like there's like a weird shoulder roll moment where they're like squatted down

[00:44:07] they're like they're just like pushing down moment that doesn't fit the rest of the choreography

[00:44:11] because it's like a little too hard hitting so I'm just a little confused by some of the choices

[00:44:16] that were made here yeah but yeah as a performer she just does not capture my attention like I

[00:44:22] watched the dance practice I watched multiple of her music show performances the studio tune one

[00:44:27] I ended up watching her dancers more than I watch her for almost all of them

[00:44:31] so I don't know she just doesn't do it for me I'm sorry

[00:44:36] yeah

[00:44:39] Jasmine what do you think um I think that there are certain people who can be solo artists and I

[00:44:44] think that there are certain people who could be or should be in a group yeah she just belongs

[00:44:49] in a group I think that she's just stronger there with her members beside her and I feel

[00:44:53] like maybe she's even happier with her members behind behind beside her it's she's a beautiful

[00:45:00] dancer she's a beautiful girl like we like we can't keep reiterating that this girl is beautiful

[00:45:04] like I am looking for special I'm looking for twinkle in the eye I'm looking for I have something that is

[00:45:13] unique and that she just doesn't do it for me in that way I love her though when she's performing

[00:45:19] with her girls and maybe that's because I can look at other members once I've grown bored of her

[00:45:24] but it's just I like it's just not like she just doesn't she doesn't have it for she doesn't have it

[00:45:30] for me you know what beautiful beautiful gowns beautiful gowns beautiful gowns that's the answer

[00:45:41] for everything yeah I think we need to put that read the Franklin clip in there that was

[00:45:49] okay once as a fellow once I think we can all say she's gross as a performer we've seen her come from

[00:45:56] like the whole you know staring into the distance looking a little bit like oh it's my turn but now

[00:46:02] she's getting a little she started to smile a little bit more um she was getting criticized

[00:46:07] I remember like seeing some sorry not smile a little more not bad being like she's smiling a

[00:46:16] little more we should clap for that like I know I know but when you're coming when you're coming from

[00:46:24] when you're coming from this you know like staring like when you're coming from the staring

[00:46:32] it's look difference

[00:46:42] okay okay pick up from this perspective right so dyp has always tried to make her the sexy one

[00:46:48] when she was like 16 they had her in a commercial dancing in an elevator with a man lord knows how

[00:46:52] much older than her on um the 16 show she was dancing a little bit more suggestively like they

[00:46:59] never had her as like cute and pretty and that and for this I guess they're leaning more like so

[00:47:05] that didn't work the sexy thing did not work they're doing the elegant thing and she looks that way

[00:47:09] and I think when the song calls for her to be a little bit more like breathy and more like

[00:47:15] into the camera and more like you want me don't you you want to be yes yeah but when it needs

[00:47:21] that kind of like that the force I'm gonna say force the force that is present in the chorus

[00:47:26] she doesn't give it with the face it's still the same kind of you know she doesn't know how to

[00:47:30] smile and that's the problem she's trying so on to run away before they fall in love and is not

[00:47:35] she's not looking like you know the Kubrick stare she's not giving that and she needs a yeah you did

[00:47:40] it just now yep yes also wait I will say there's just she's just not comfortable like yeah there's

[00:47:51] even this video that they put up where she's in a dog costume performing this and I was like oh like

[00:47:57] maybe she'll like be have some fun with this and you know do something else she smiles a lot yeah

[00:48:03] and she does like maybe like a little wiggle at one point but I was like she's just it's just not

[00:48:07] loose like she's not herself like it's just yeah there's such a huge barrier yeah it's it's so weird

[00:48:14] because like her personality with her members she's a little bit more fiery like she's the one

[00:48:17] that they call kind of like a savage because she's so mean not mean but she kind of like

[00:48:21] gently bullies her unnies kind of thing so I just it just sucks watching her get on the stage and then

[00:48:27] like not portraying that and although she has grown a little bit as a performer in the past

[00:48:34] X amount of years I feel like she loses energy as the performance goes on and that's my biggest

[00:48:38] issue it wasn't consistent energy like I could like with joy from red velvet joy starts to get

[00:48:43] tired by the by the first chorus this is kind of I've seen a girl live you know the nostril

[00:48:49] breathing that people do they're like joy gets to that that's what su is kind of giving by like

[00:48:55] you know we felt so shady but my point is beautiful gowns beautiful gowns it's just not

[00:49:02] super consistent that consistent so sorry to eat oh I will say though I do appreciate there

[00:49:09] it's some floor choreography where they go on and do this like knee thing yeah the dance break

[00:49:14] moment yeah some effort was put in there yeah I like the dance break okay in her defense yes you're

[00:49:19] right we need to start asking these girls is this truly like being a solo that's really what you

[00:49:23] want I think it was just like we need to ask them because it's okay if someone just wants to be

[00:49:28] in the group it's okay girl people thrive that way like she clearly doesn't want to be solo is

[00:49:35] someone clearly was like you're gonna do this take this song sing this thing do this thing show up in

[00:49:39] these places like yes you know she's gotta run out of contract every day big oh oh my god no

[00:49:50] you know okay also in her defense I will say I liked it when she looked a little bit like

[00:49:54] like the black hair black dress when she looks like she is dangerous is certain when she looks like

[00:49:59] princess from like a Chinese fantasy that's when it just she I think she wants to do something but

[00:50:05] it's just not the proper elements you know so she might be great at acting for k-drama it's like

[00:50:11] yeah there are multiple avenues I just think being a solo performer is just not it yeah

[00:50:17] the whole Japanese Japanese line in one group you said those are chewy to somebody with

[00:50:22] somebody for sure yeah thanks all right we'll go around yes okay first off she's giving us live vocals

[00:50:31] which I always appreciate with the mama moog girls uh I will say though she's using a handheld mic and

[00:50:37] all these performances and clearly the choreography they didn't think about that what they did the

[00:50:42] choreography so when do they have a weird moment that she has to let the backing track

[00:50:45] take over and stuff but where she has to like use both arms so I don't know that's just like

[00:50:50] an odd thing that I feel like they could have adapted to but whatever it's fine

[00:50:55] otherwise though actually really like the choreography for this I think the interactions with the other

[00:50:59] female dancers are really fun you can kind of feel the chemistry there there's a ton of dynamics in

[00:51:05] all the pictures and the formations and there's actually a lot of freedom in the movement that

[00:51:09] every dancer is actually given like they're each kind of giving their own way of like just

[00:51:14] punching the air or like they're kind of each doing their own thing for certain grooves

[00:51:17] so that's just fun to watch my favorite part is the triangle ripple at the start of the post chorus

[00:51:25] with like the the foot flick and then all the stuff kind of all going like in a triangle line

[00:51:32] yeah she's a great performer she makes it so much fun the little butt jiggle dance thing

[00:51:38] I mean it's memorable for sure I'm gonna remember that forever

[00:51:42] you said that's a meculo I can't pat my boom boom that's a meculo

[00:51:46] yeah that was just thinking about she was like if I can't touch the front I'm gonna touch the back

[00:51:50] that's right um but yeah she's just a smart performer as well like she knows how to execute

[00:51:56] and give you just kind of a ride throughout she gives kind of 50 percent with some moves

[00:52:02] she goes 100 during like the more dance break moments she's just smart with the way she

[00:52:07] performs it it does feel very natural for her and that's even more obvious when you watch her

[00:52:12] right after Chewy oh sorry she got a growly kick in her still or

[00:52:24] bossa's gonna perform day night rain sleep snow this is true i was going to perform like

[00:52:30] this is what she does she's a veteran member of the kpop community for a reason like and you can

[00:52:37] tell that she does love it she gets a lot of pride from it she gets a lot of joy from it which

[00:52:41] is something as I as a viewer I want to see you have a good time performing it you having a good

[00:52:46] time performing it's gonna make me love it and love you even more so like watching her do it all

[00:52:51] that stuff and even like her little smirk that she does especially when she she does the butt

[00:52:54] thing I'd be like I can watch her perform anything anything at all like I just watching her is

[00:53:03] like she just gives master class on a class kpop what a thing to say you know I was like mama move

[00:53:14] felt like brown eyed girls but brown eyed girls couldn't figure out the solo thing and it always

[00:53:19] irritates me because I was like Dan y'all could sing y'all gotta look y'all I know each every

[00:53:24] single one of you they just couldn't figure out the solo thing mama moves been able to do that

[00:53:28] and Kwasa has been so consistent like I was as she was like what mr. ambiguous when I first came out

[00:53:34] she's been the same person if not more she's more confident now like I watching the performances I think

[00:53:42] what you were saying with uh with the dancers Chris like yeah they look really good behind

[00:53:45] her but I'm looking at her I was like let them kind of see what else is going on around her to

[00:53:49] figure out what the picture is like oh shoot I should be trying to figure out what's happening

[00:53:51] here but for the most part I'm looking at her she gives me what Hanna used to give before all the

[00:53:56] Lord knows what but yeah Yanna used to grab her grab her little boops you know kind of give a

[00:54:01] little cheekiness like I don't care what you think about me and Kwasa has that energy and I love how

[00:54:07] in each of the performances and something's just a little different here and there it's not the

[00:54:11] same her face which has been a problem with k-pop girl groups um it is it is tough performing

[00:54:16] over and over again doing the same choreography and then figuring out what new things to do

[00:54:20] in each one but she does and I think one I would say the most annoying off and she's

[00:54:25] worn was like the brow dress for the video because she has to do a swing a little thing around

[00:54:29] and pray that gosh there's a step in trip on it and the fact that she's moving it around and

[00:54:33] it just shows her her skill shows how confident she is in the dress because I dressed with tight

[00:54:39] honey in her little liars and color up my whole people so um I think I think watching her like

[00:54:46] you said made me like the song even more I liked the song before I was like I like this

[00:54:49] video and I watched her perform and I was like yeah that's that's that's a star go all girl

[00:54:55] all right moving on to our final player we have Mio Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao Miao

[00:55:11] actually think this choreography is pretty great I think the way they use all the different cats

[00:55:20] things it all works yeah all the different ways they did the claws and the like the wipes

[00:55:27] like it's everything like super super effective none of it feels too um I don't know it doesn't feel too

[00:55:34] forced and none of it feels super dumb either like it's not like they're given these like really

[00:55:39] cutesy animal moves and it's like embarrassing for them to do and actually all looks really cool

[00:55:43] so props to the choreographers they they really did a good job with all the dynamics and

[00:55:47] and they also balance it all with kind of more hard hitting stuff as well uh so just yeah it's a lot

[00:55:52] of textures in there uh so I think the choreography is awesome I think again kind of what I was saying

[00:55:59] before about their facial expressions I watched a few performances the ones where they were kind

[00:56:05] of just having more fun with it uh and actually just being able and being allowed to just

[00:56:11] kind of smile a little bit that reads a lot better than them trying to do these like aggressive faces

[00:56:17] is they're like doing these hip hop chest moves and stuff uh because again they just seem really

[00:56:23] young and it just doesn't read authentic to me when they put on those faces so yeah I think

[00:56:31] that might be something that they just grow into but you can just tell like the this song

[00:56:37] doesn't really represent the five of them and their own tastes good I feel like like this really

[00:56:44] feels like such a huge example of hip hop and how it's like you're just put into this group

[00:56:48] and you're given the concept and you just have to execute it and I don't really see I don't feel

[00:56:52] the full connection yet but looking at it just big picture like when I watched the dance practices

[00:56:59] and stuff I think the actual choreography is great so I enjoyed it but I just don't I don't

[00:57:09] know I was actually I was actually slightly impressed by these girls when they performed

[00:57:14] I was just like because they are like they're new groups that they can use like sometimes you

[00:57:19] get to see a little nervousness on their face or whatever but like they came to play they came

[00:57:22] to like hit it and do their thing so I was very I was actually very impressed now the

[00:57:28] choreography of course we have the the move I love a little yeah move whatever like right

[00:57:34] like especially we gonna shake something yeah like I was just like that thing with the ears

[00:57:39] but I was like I'm looking forward to see you then hopefully grow in the performance aspect

[00:57:44] throughout their career um but it did make me go oh okay this definitely helps make them more

[00:57:52] positive in my eyes these performances. Shwerch word um you know the gesture is definitely

[00:57:59] I love the kitty um the two fingers during the chorus that was cute I think Bailey saw

[00:58:05] had a lot to do with the choreography people thought she was going to be in the group I mean this

[00:58:08] would have been a very interesting group had she uh I thought that she was gonna be in the group

[00:58:13] they they paid attention to it they didn't switch yeah I love her yeah they made and switched

[00:58:18] they went hey she's in the found out like maybe she was supposed to be but I think probably

[00:58:23] it's been on a choreographer choreographer is um like kind of like standpoint I think

[00:58:27] she would have tried to discourage because how many years of servitude um you know I think for

[00:58:33] what they're given this whole like cool tomboy thing like tomboy princesses as I as I I I say that

[00:58:39] a lot of my own person's like oh tomboy princess like Ali a kind of like very cool you know

[00:58:43] back and forth chilling kind of like in the cut kind of vibe that's what they're trying to give

[00:58:48] here and I think for their ages it's not terrible I would rather this than them like try to be

[00:58:55] all sexy and scrunching at the camera and like trying to like you know lick their mouths and

[00:59:00] things like that or giving us too many winky faces like some girl groups do or like the hair flipping

[00:59:05] the dances are going to let them a hair flip and I appreciate that and I think as a group

[00:59:09] they look good so them being put together was done well because they're not doing too much

[00:59:15] with their faces they're doing what they've been taught what the song is asking for the whole

[00:59:20] aesthetic of the group is that cool tomboy thing and the whole like just staring blankly

[00:59:25] at the camera and kind of like looking at you like I'm better than you it works for this because

[00:59:29] the song is literally saying that as well I like that they seem balanced as a group as well like

[00:59:33] they have decent chemistry for like for what we know about them for what we're seeing like it wasn't

[00:59:37] like uh suin I think her name is suin one of the girls in the dance group that does a little

[00:59:41] fan kick she doesn't try to out dance them you could tell she probably could give him some

[00:59:47] serious but she's not overdoing it um no one's overpowering the other and I can see their

[00:59:52] personalities in terms of like who they are in the group like you have two girls who are a little

[00:59:56] bit more elegant you have that the two girls I mentioned that are like they give very much leader

[01:00:00] very much head of the pack and then you have the dancer who's kind of like dark and like she has

[01:00:05] the bangs she's like the edgelord I get that from this group I totally get it um if they feel

[01:00:10] calm for what they're giving with this choreography because there's a lot of motions a lot of hair

[01:00:14] flip um and the choreo is full out enough for me to not be like oh they're being lazy but

[01:00:18] also not so full out where I'm like damn they're a dance crew come on chill out except at the

[01:00:22] end the end was like okay go ham I mean they'll definitely get better not bad at all for debut

[01:00:28] I would say but considering all the elements that were in place with choreographers I'm not

[01:00:32] surprised either so I don't know if the good thing or bad thing but for what they were given for them

[01:00:37] being so young couple of them just being models and then hopping into this and being like okay I

[01:00:40] have to sing and dance and dealing with nerves not bad I did watch the vocal performance of them

[01:00:44] on um Wendy's radio show shaky here and there but the girls I mentioned earlier not in and

[01:00:49] Kaon actually can't hit their notes and they sound good so I mean like it's one of those things where

[01:00:53] I'm like you just started your kids you're singing in a tone that's not technically yours

[01:01:00] still trying to find yourself like so I'm a little lenient with their performances because

[01:01:05] it actually wasn't bad it made me kind of like pay attention a little bit more

[01:01:08] I did read some comments on reddit and youtube as well that people say that this song

[01:01:13] doesn't do justice to their vocal ability at all I don't really know anything about

[01:01:17] these girls aside from like these few little teaser things that they did so I mean I'm excited

[01:01:23] to see what they do next yeah it's really fun I do hope that we keep the cat like I like I want

[01:01:29] the cat okay throughout the next five singles I want their the album to be cat related like we

[01:01:36] got it just gonna do it like let's like go for it yes per the next single whiskers give me

[01:01:42] claws claws out pow give me the nails on these scratch like scratch something hiss

[01:01:48] catnip give me some okay but was meow good enough to win this round for you then

[01:01:56] oh no yeah what's that still wins for me oh in terms of performance yes in terms of

[01:02:05] choreography I saved meow one the choreography I like the car a little bit more but I think

[01:02:10] overall kawasaki dance so I'll give her it all can it is like she can if you give her

[01:02:16] choreography and told her to lip sing she did the choreography too so there's that and sing

[01:02:21] and and shake it like and shake some he's gonna talk about shake some she would like shake

[01:02:26] to be fair she is a veteran yeah jasmine you were saying so it is a little unfair to

[01:02:34] compare her chewy has no excuse no offense but but but yeah it's a little tough to go against her

[01:02:42] but yeah she kills it for me so yeah not bad though meow meows is the fandom name pop off

[01:02:49] go I'm gonna call them pop I should be pop out just I know it's one pop but pop I don't have

[01:02:55] something to say that about that because she always talking about put your paws up but you

[01:02:58] know what we can just contest that in court all right y'all overall winner seems pretty obvious

[01:03:07] I'm going to have to kind of like yeah we have to do too much wasa just seems to be the winner

[01:03:11] the veteran thing matters absolutely but the song is for me fully fleshed out

[01:03:18] I kind of skipped the order my bad but the song is fully fleshed out

[01:03:23] uh the choreography is there it's cute enough she can perform it she can sing it the video is nice

[01:03:29] like it has all of the elements of well thought out and I appreciate that so

[01:03:36] yeah yeah I don't really have anything to add to that no sorry y'all it's sad that this hit that

[01:03:44] it it was a it's tough to go against an A class idol it just really is it's just

[01:03:51] she got the money backing her she's got her own talent she's got her own everything so it's just like

[01:03:59] for especially for meow it was just very hard to you chewy I do love you

[01:04:05] you're considered a veteran one too so that's why I think of this that one that kind of it

[01:04:09] it's hurt a little bit more that she was just not not even real even in the running at all so

[01:04:16] next time they'll see you next time chewy fighting

[01:04:20] like you did it

[01:04:23] also I agree fighting we got this girl you got this yeah all right once

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