Pop Off: TEMPEST vs CHUNG HA vs HIGHLIGHT (March 2024 Comebacks) with Shanice of Kpopbox

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[00:00:06] It's time for March 2024 K-pop Pop-off and this month we're joined by Shanice of K-pop Box

[00:00:12] and the How You At You podcast. Yay, thank you so much for joining at your one of our favorite shows.

[00:00:21] Please introduce yourself to our listeners if they don't know you already.

[00:00:25] Hey hey hey, it's Shanice from K-pop Box and from the podcast How You At You.

[00:00:30] We miss Shay, we said love to Shay, she's just a big girl but she's not well.

[00:00:35] So hold it down for you girl um but yeah.

[00:00:40] I love it. So how did you get into K-pop? You've been doing a lot in this space for a while

[00:00:44] actually. Well it was a cold night in 1992 no um I think it was like 2004

[00:00:54] she's like that's early. That's a whole human being they're like 20 right 24.

[00:01:03] I remember I was in high school and my friend was playing big band. She was playing

[00:01:11] like they just debuted at this point and I was like who did it? What you watching? She goes

[00:01:18] oh this is Tae Yang. Who's Tae Yang what are you talking about because I was going

[00:01:23] through my B2K stage and that was okay I spoke about this in my podcast. I like Tae Yang with

[00:01:28] the braids I'm sorry. Me too. Thank you. Thank you. See maybe it's a bit problematic I don't know but

[00:01:38] they were nice, they were neat. Yeah it's lame. I was offended and I was like oh this is like

[00:01:46] Korean or Marian or Marian was my bias so I was just like see girl you know I was just like

[00:01:54] let's let's let's stick deeper that's that's what happened. I love that. Tae Yang was my first like

[00:02:01] male K-pop bias but BoA was my my my into it um but yes thank you so much for the introduction and

[00:02:07] letting us know how the setting the tone for this episode because y'all are gonna get so fun.

[00:02:12] So if you're new to CCTV and our pop-off episodes every month we put up polls on our

[00:02:17] Patreon and Twitter at CCTV Pops and you all get to vote for three of K-POP's biggest releases

[00:02:24] of the month to battle it out in our song, video and performance rounds okay if you want to join

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[00:02:46] So before we get into it just a reminder that this is for pure fun please don't take it seriously

[00:02:52] music is subjective and that's why it's fun to talk about and you can join in and let us know

[00:02:57] what wins for you in each round in the comments as well. So this month you voted for Chung-A's

[00:03:03] Innie Meanie featuring Hong Joong of 80s, Highlight's Body and Tempest's Lighthouse so

[00:03:10] let's get ready to rumble. Round one.

[00:03:16] All right so you got player one Chung-A with Innie Meanie featuring Hong Joong of 80s and this was

[00:03:21] done by Chung-A, Hong Joong, Connor Blake, Sarah Bo, Ann Marie, Tom Hollings, Sam Renan,

[00:03:27] and Cho Yoon-Kyeong there's a lot of names y'all. It's a lot of names. Yes I'm one to be

[00:03:32] recognized though Ann Marie's name. Yeah that's cool so yes round one is all about the song

[00:03:38] itself so the production, the hook, the vocals, the melody. So Shanice start us off what do you think

[00:03:44] of Innie Meanie? Okay I'm going to say I think this song is a grower but I think there's a reason

[00:03:50] I think there's a reason behind it because obviously she's now moved to a new label

[00:03:54] so it's kind of like let me show you something a little different to what I usually show and

[00:04:00] as you also had the teaser and ready right which is more Chung-A if you think Chung-A you

[00:04:05] think yes work, serve, mother right yeah but this is like more strict bet. I was saying you know the

[00:04:12] double bass or the cello I don't know instruments child let's call it the cello. It's a bass okay

[00:04:22] I know it's one of them. It's giving b-boy, it's giving hip hop. Oh yeah. I don't know kind of remind

[00:04:31] me of a Q-song. I don't know if it's a direct sample. I think um don't, was it something about technique?

[00:04:40] Don't sweat the technique. Yeah yeah it was giving me that kind of vibe it kind of

[00:04:45] reminded me a bit of the bass from the BTS Nimbler Dreams with that kind of vibe.

[00:04:53] Um highlights I do like when she goes into the chorus

[00:05:00] and how that changes up and I like the um backing as well when she's like eating meaty so yeah

[00:05:09] you know what I heard that too I was um thinking um Black Sheep the um engine engine number that I

[00:05:16] was like oh yeah uh if you know like if you're if you're from the article all in that song

[00:05:22] um but yeah no I also was thinking No More Dream but BTS for the youngins who don't know

[00:05:26] oh lord but you know um you I was actually expecting to see you next Tuesday from her

[00:05:32] but this song actually is not a typical for her um I don't know what her fans are called I guess

[00:05:38] I'm not one of them. I'm like an outlier that listens to the album apparently but like her

[00:05:42] last album was it uh Bear and Rare I think it was um not the last last album the one I

[00:05:48] actually liked what I'm ready XXX uh huh they all kind of fit in this like no dark kind of her

[00:05:56] singing her little register more sensual kind of like Chungha thing but this song is kind of her just

[00:06:02] chest voice a lot of it she had a little rap I think since Bicycle I've been a little like wary

[00:06:07] of her raps because Bicycle was just like oh Jesus oh no this this is not a good rap that's

[00:06:13] this one Bicycle you know what it grew on me it grew on me but when I first heard it I was like

[00:06:17] oof I mean nothing's ever gonna beat um Sunmi's rap and um okay girl let's not do that

[00:06:27] love her went to the show but um but yeah I think this one was better in terms of rapping

[00:06:33] I don't I can't say I like hearing her rap because she has a certain tone in her voice

[00:06:37] that's very like it's girly pop it gives you sensual it gives you bright but like her

[00:06:42] being cool either she should have gone to her little register or like maybe this part could

[00:06:45] have been arranged a little bit differently where it kind of gave a little bit more of

[00:06:48] like a cadence of a rap as opposed to actually being a rap because she's like new sensation

[00:06:53] and I was like oh no baby no um but it doesn't mean she's bad it doesn't mean she's bad I was

[00:06:57] just like that took me out of the cool a little bit you know that's a new sensation

[00:07:02] that's what it is she told you what it is I love it I love it but yeah overall I think

[00:07:09] it does fall in line with what she does like on her b-side like xxx uh huh like I mentioned before

[00:07:14] so it's not bad it was nice to kind of see what she's gonna do especially with more vision with j

[00:07:18] park and so yeah yeah I think it's catchy but the song is just fine I mean maybe you will grow on me

[00:07:25] a little bit but it's just not something I ever like really want to listen to it does feel like

[00:07:30] they just wanted something that she would kill like as a performance uh which we'll get to

[00:07:36] and we can decide whether she did or not um but I think her vocal is pretty good I've always thought

[00:07:41] her vocal has been kind of limited in kind of what it can do and in this case it sounds warm

[00:07:47] attitude is there it feels relatively genuine I think the layers and stuff are dynamic and

[00:07:53] I think the production is good it's mixed well I don't know I think I just had high expectations

[00:07:58] for this since she's been gone for so long and I don't know if this makes the impact

[00:08:03] that it was supposed to I think that's fair I think I'm not gonna lie I'm just like okay

[00:08:10] I thought I'm going to go to the second verse I was like

[00:08:16] yeah no valid like this is nice but no valid I mean I like the change up when um Hyungjoon came in but

[00:08:24] yes actually yes what did he think of his rap love him he is he's he's a very cheeky rapper

[00:08:31] and his flow was very the triplets oh my god nice very I don't even have to understand what he was

[00:08:37] man the saying but oh yeah that was good you know I'm saying and that's him that's important especially

[00:08:41] with rap because but yeah no no I like that like this is an easy I see some head nod so yeah I agree

[00:08:50] we already had what 19 seconds and he made every second pound he was like I'm gonna give my boss

[00:08:55] in child and I was like yes see you say them words I don't know what you said yes he was a good choice

[00:09:02] for sure yes absolutely okay so moving on to player two we have highlight with body and this was done by

[00:09:11] Jung Eun Gi Kim Tae Young Dint of hybrid G1 and mlc and so this is highlight aka beast

[00:09:20] and I'm gonna be honest I was surprised they got picked to be talked about in our show because I don't

[00:09:26] know if the international fans have kind of left them like they're not I agree yeah the comment sections

[00:09:32] are always like super super super Korean man albums that are like looking for any work like ABC

[00:09:38] right now this barely any yeah so yes but I'm a beast stan so I was excited to talk about them

[00:09:46] okay so yeah chantel what do you think you know what I'm trash for a boy group song

[00:09:53] especially let me giggle like that wow that sounds crazy but I am trash for a boy group song

[00:09:57] of when I heard this song I was like oh yeah yeah because for me them doing light and bright

[00:10:04] like has been a secret fave of mine because you know they did angst and dark soul well when they

[00:10:08] were younger like when they were young men going through life and love like they're grown now

[00:10:12] so there's an effortless that almost has to happen over or else they'll come across as like trying too

[00:10:18] hard to fit in um and it's present in the song the song is flirty lyrically and fun like in terms of

[00:10:24] not to shake your body but like you know hey girl give it a chance we're just trying to play

[00:10:28] around you know it's light it's not like if you leave me I'm gonna die I can't breathe without

[00:10:33] you like they used to do so it's like okay you know for them to not have a rapper in this group

[00:10:38] they brought the coolness and the swag major air quotes to the second verse that was uh I guess a

[00:10:45] good switch up with all that like bright you know yay yayness so a little trappy kind of breakdown

[00:10:50] the second verse felt like a bridge so when the the dance break came around I was like okay I'm

[00:10:55] kind of satisfied I hear I heard what I need to hear throughout the song so the dance break

[00:10:59] came around I was like okay cool cool cool um now I gotta say these guys have never been

[00:11:04] bad singers but now they're older the higher pitches sound so much pitches sound so much smoother

[00:11:10] and like floaty as opposed to like pushed because we know you'll stop you see push push it and then

[00:11:16] Ki-kwang has a very nasally voice and now this kind of just it's sitting in this way like highly

[00:11:21] monogamous voice like where it was like really high pitched and now that as they're getting older

[00:11:25] it's starting to shift in this way where it's like oh that's nice to the ears and not

[00:11:29] why? Yes that's the word shrill so yeah I feel like overall it needed it does what it needs to do

[00:11:36] in terms of uh like feeling light and bright and easy and it stands out amongst their I guess

[00:11:42] quote-unquote peers in terms of like is that hip hop it's not swaggy there's even some a little

[00:11:48] synthesized horn section I'll take what I can get um but yeah I thought I enjoyed this one

[00:11:53] honest look hellless sucker yeah this one did grow on me the first time I heard it I was kind of like

[00:11:59] but then as I kept listening to it I was like okay this is actually quite catchy and fun I think all

[00:12:03] the visuals helped with that too but yeah the whole chill house kind of light thing is good I

[00:12:08] think it's great for kind of this time as we're getting into spring as well it's fun to sing

[00:12:12] along to the fake horn synth situation I think could be very divisive yeah uh because

[00:12:19] yeah it kind of takes me out a little bit now that I know it's there I think it's fine

[00:12:23] um but yeah that I think the vocals do make the song though because I think if this was given

[00:12:28] to another boy group I don't think it would have been as good because I think like you said like

[00:12:32] the blend is there the sound is just super open harmonies octave just all sound really full

[00:12:38] so yeah I enjoy this but I'm also biased because I love beast

[00:12:43] crying that's valid but I'm just boy group trash like I like this

[00:12:46] past style of boy group song where's that like we liked um replayed by b1a4 you know I like that one

[00:12:52] because it was just light and bright it was simple you know about you should be yeah I described this

[00:12:57] song as a perfectly blended cocktail or well seasoned meal okay because I was hooked honey

[00:13:04] from 001 I was like yes I'm shaking my body I lost it you know it reminds me of it reminds

[00:13:13] of like a 2024 version but like growing sexy beautiful night oh yeah yeah the vibe of it and I was

[00:13:21] like oh my gosh be terrible beggin time but we're grown you know so that's so that's like the vibe

[00:13:30] that I was getting you kind of touched on what I was going to say anyway about like the little

[00:13:33] horn section I mean it's there but overall I think vocally

[00:13:46] I'm eating it up and I don't know just like the balance of the instrumentation and the vocals

[00:13:51] together wasn't like one was an overpowering the other yeah it's much appreciated much

[00:13:58] appreciated oh wow so we're at the end already wow it happened so fast we're at the end of the

[00:14:05] song section and now we must each pick no no girl you you you run it what's happening

[00:14:15] did I tell you I was sick

[00:14:19] okay sorry yes so now brings us to our third what a little so that's what you said

[00:14:26] okay yes all right that being said that brings us to our third and final contestant tempest with

[00:14:32] lighthouse and it was done by Bangkok ear candy 72 to Yun Kyeong again oh David Anthony Avenue 52

[00:14:42] square Hwadang and Lou of Tempest yeah so now they've been in our our pop-offs for

[00:14:49] since debut now yeah the fans are passionate yes yeah respect girl respect respect um but I still

[00:14:56] don't know too much about them to be honest okay I've really just listened to the songs that have been

[00:15:02] chosen for this and not really gone much further than this but yeah just in general I don't think

[00:15:08] they have a sound yet like it's just all feels a bit faceless and this song included like it could

[00:15:13] be any boy band that sings this like it feels very generic I think there are some good vocals in there

[00:15:19] but no one stands out like there's no tone where I'm like oh like who's that um and I don't know if

[00:15:25] that's a processing thing or if that's just they're still very young and they just haven't kind of

[00:15:28] developed that um but the song is fine like if you if you told me it was a standard good

[00:15:36] k-pop boy band song this would be something I would probably picture in my head so whether

[00:15:42] that's a good thing or not I don't know uh I think chorus has a nice melody the second half of the

[00:15:46] chorus with the chance and kind of the head voice repeat is is nice I would say the pre-chorus is

[00:15:52] probably my favorite part uh but yeah I nothing about this stands out at all to me well what about

[00:16:01] you shaneys so well yep don't drink me all about um I don't know these men boys these are the

[00:16:15] but I was going going into tempest blind and okay I was it was very I'm just gonna be honest it was

[00:16:24] me like it wasn't bad but it wasn't great um it was giving I think it was given like

[00:16:31] 20 15 random k-pop boy group to me and I was just like or like a song that'll hear in h&m

[00:16:39] and I'm looking for something and it's like it's not offensive to the air it's just

[00:16:45] bear oh you know the vocals were clean

[00:16:49] they were period that was that was nice and I do like the the trunny bit in the chorus and

[00:16:56] the the lighthouse but the thing is what's really bad is I actually can't remember the melody

[00:17:03] right now because I was so tempted to sing oh I like this part of the song that goes

[00:17:08] oh I actually cut oh that's tough because you know

[00:17:18] y'all y'all are y'all a lot nicer than I'm probably gonna be but I think you know they're

[00:17:21] probably in this point in their career where they're trying to find their sound

[00:17:25] and it stinks because like now they've been out since what 2021 2022 maybe ish but it's been

[00:17:30] a couple years now um and they're doing this thing that a lot of groups who especially boy groups

[00:17:35] right now boy groups are being tossed in the air and hope it whatever sticks hits um whatever hits

[00:17:40] sticks excuse me so it's like they whatever does well for that one comeback like if they

[00:17:45] have a win with it they'll keep doing it for the next second like two mini albums or two comebacks

[00:17:49] right but for this one it was rough because for me I feel like the chorus is weak like I remember

[00:17:54] the the melody and it was not strong it was not good not in my opinion and even with their

[00:18:02] their vocal and they're good like their main vocal I do not remember his name but he looks like hay one

[00:18:06] from in mix like they are very similar in like facial features I don't they I like hate well she's

[00:18:13] my favorite um but yeah I think even with their strong vocals and their capable capabilities

[00:18:20] in terms of melody and composition the chorus is the weakest and the line is

[00:18:26] the lyrics are really sweet and they're about guiding someone through confusion and uncertainty

[00:18:31] and I appreciate the sentiment but coming from song was confusion sorry that's yeah as some say like

[00:18:37] the data I think it's not even their fault unfortunately the couple of their widths doesn't

[00:18:40] know like tempest the whole idea is a storm like they came from vroom vroom which we kind of like

[00:18:46] that was their vice it's too like I've grown to kind of enjoy in a certain like atmosphere not

[00:18:51] like on an everyday basis but like I enjoy when they're a little bit more mischievous like

[00:18:56] Shinny say they do mischievous not bad boy but they do like a kind of naughty like really well

[00:19:02] and this is not leading into their strengths like they have interesting faces and voices that lend a

[00:19:09] little bit more to risk taking in terms of like pop boy group songs um but I guess after coming

[00:19:17] from vroom vroom and dangerous they wanted to try something a little bit more sentimental

[00:19:21] now's not the time to do that time to keep pressing forward and kind of just ball to the

[00:19:25] wall like give me spunk and this wasn't spunky for me so that's what oh and I didn't like the rap

[00:19:31] what rap oh my gosh yes okay yeah see you deleted it see you deleted it from your mind

[00:19:38] I was like okay why are we here oh honey oh my god we get to that music video section okay before

[00:19:45] okay yes let's let's let's end round one so we've talked about the song itself so

[00:19:50] I'll go first so if I had to choose a winner for the song I would go with highlight body

[00:19:58] Janice you I'm gonna have to match you Chris same highlight body yeah same body for me too

[00:20:06] okay well wow surprise it oh foggy's coming through let's see it for this consistent with

[00:20:11] the next round because we're moving on to round two which is about the music video round two

[00:20:18] so let's go back to player one Chunga

[00:20:22] Inie Meanie Janice start us off what do you think oh the music video okay I was a bit confused

[00:20:27] because I like I feel like I meant to be I meant to understand and dig deeper what's going on

[00:20:33] why I'm missing something I don't know what it is but when she when the video first starts

[00:20:38] there's like these birds flying away what does that mean does that mean she's set free

[00:20:41] and she's now on a new journey am I reading too much into it do I need sleep

[00:20:45] probably but what does it mean and then there was like the um the crystallized version of her

[00:20:55] and then there was like Black Suit but I don't know if it was her but like with the sniper

[00:21:01] point of things and I was just like oh this is mean duality jokin light what's going on I'm just

[00:21:10] just fishing right now but the fits were fitting though oh my gosh the fur coat the white fur coat

[00:21:15] in the glasses he was doing it yes doing a thing she was doing a thing but yeah but overall as a

[00:21:22] cohesive piece I love um the shots they did an like a match cut thing in one of the dances

[00:21:29] I love a good match cut channel and um but she like I think it was like the first chorus

[00:21:37] um and like the alleyway and the shot is we're changing oh so okay I see you I see you yeah um

[00:21:45] but yeah that was all over the place sorry well no it wasn't I you know that was great because I

[00:21:50] understand it because I had a second I'm like hey what we're like two the same person um I I agree

[00:21:56] with the styling Chung has always served like editorial in her music videos but this time it's

[00:22:01] like streetwear streets you know it's like um with boa with her negadora uh phase like she had gone from

[00:22:10] like um kiss my lips and like the other like very thin kind of performance and now suddenly she's like

[00:22:15] I'm wearing cool clothes and furs and I have puffs on my head this is stylistically what Chung

[00:22:20] was doing I feel like um I appreciate some some of the styling in this video because boy

[00:22:28] it was giving like Gen Z Disney channel like you know what I'm talking about where they like the

[00:22:33] the stuff was just throwing up at each other because it's expensive and not because it's

[00:22:37] like a nice outfit I'll get into it in the performance section but yeah certain outfits I

[00:22:42] was like girl um aside from that the ambiguous figure like you said was strange um I think

[00:22:48] the color blocking in certain scenes was great like the we all know K-pop videos composition

[00:22:54] is just great in terms of just like colors and palettes but I really enjoyed the red and the blue

[00:23:00] the primary colors together come on man it's just popped off Hong Joon wearing a brighter color

[00:23:06] amongst this drabby apartment scene was nice to see too even for his long 19 seconds as you

[00:23:11] mentioned it was nice to kind of see it because he brought a little bit more energy um I think

[00:23:18] overall this video is meant to be like a w magazine page term with choreography like

[00:23:25] because literally it was just like fashion but it was just dance shots because I don't think we ever

[00:23:28] got like a one like one scene of her just standing and serving face it was always I'm moving I'm

[00:23:33] gliding I'm with the crowd you know so I think I liked it but like Chris kind of

[00:23:38] leaves what Chris was saying like hmm what else can we get from this right now

[00:23:43] yeah I don't know my again my expectations were high she always does a good job I think on

[00:23:48] camera like she's super charismatic and she's a good performer um I do think so I enjoyed the look

[00:23:55] of the like the primary color like studio dance scenes but I almost feel like they didn't match

[00:23:59] like the grungier sets because I enjoyed kind of the dark kind of like orange uh lighting of

[00:24:07] like the grungy apartment building or whatever like the lounge or whatever that they were with

[00:24:11] abandoned saying that they were in I don't know and abandoned something um like I thought that little

[00:24:19] scene where they're dancing like in like a like in an alleyway or whatever like that was really cool so

[00:24:24] I feel like it didn't match how slick the like studio scenes were so I just didn't really get that

[00:24:30] choice I guess um yeah but I think I think she did a good job I will say again I say this a lot

[00:24:39] that I think kpopover does is CGI and I think this is another case like we did not need the

[00:24:44] dripping walls like the random silver puddles and stuff I was like that I mean maybe they need

[00:24:50] something like let me know if they do but I was just like that doesn't add anything like the whole

[00:24:55] shutters like changing and stuff like that was enough they didn't need all this oozing stuff

[00:25:01] on the wall like I just didn't understand like the extra budget that they felt they needed to

[00:25:06] spend shoe but I enjoyed it like I think she's good on camera so I thought it was yeah at least

[00:25:11] I was entertained the whole time oh too bad too bad that's it also at the end when she's sitting

[00:25:19] sitting in a chair and that's what you do it's like the dancers reverse like they walk backwards

[00:25:26] what's that see I just want to know what it means oh yeah now we're getting like a lore

[00:25:31] yeah it's just like am I just reading too much intimate or they're just putting that cool stuff in

[00:25:36] there because I don't know does she normally have a lore no right no she just serves as she's like

[00:25:42] yeah big dot period at the end of her sentences now it's like that that that like I don't know

[00:25:49] I don't know this time all right um who are you on that highlight with a body

[00:25:57] all right so when I watched the video can I tell you I was like oh swimming pool 30 year old men

[00:26:06] swimming pool and then bam here we are suits that I think sets the tone of the video like without a

[00:26:14] doubt because you're thinking one thing and if something else happens and it has a little bit of

[00:26:18] like humor to it like I said I'm doing stretches like old men buy the pool when they

[00:26:25] could be like laying there being all hot and getting girls to bring them drinks and they didn't

[00:26:29] have that and they could have um could we all see the videos like 2 p.m put your hands up that was

[00:26:34] legit like let's go to the club let's go to make it obvious um but yeah no this this video wasn't

[00:26:40] really focused too much on like the words of the song which I appreciate it was more about

[00:26:46] the satisfying colors the overall vibes the idea of not taking oneself too seriously because at

[00:26:53] this point they're like what like 30 somethings year olds now right so it's like at this point

[00:26:58] like the colors they're so nice they're again we take kpop for a grand at this point because

[00:27:04] we're like oh we see that we see that but even when they're like not matching outfits especially in

[00:27:08] the elevator scene it was so satisfying to see the color palette because there was green

[00:27:13] there it was definitely disney channel styling but the colors made sense to the elevator to

[00:27:18] the lobby and so on to the rest of the video the silhouettes are really simple and the gentlemen's

[00:27:24] will allow but it has nods to the western trends that are hot right now like right now like I said

[00:27:29] they're men's in their 30s and they're not trying to be dressed in like several thousand layers of

[00:27:34] streetwear and I think that is something that really stood out to me aside because I usually

[00:27:39] I'm like oh the story the story but I was actually just watching it and being like I like this

[00:27:44] I like that oh nice outfit not thank god he's not wearing baggy jeans in a backers hat you know

[00:27:51] y'all know y'all know to be fair they did wear that for their b-side promotions I don't know if

[00:27:56] you watch that they did they did they did oh man when I was talking about that yeah now

[00:28:01] yeah yes no I I actually loved this video I appreciated the whole kind of sophisticated

[00:28:06] barbershop suit shop lounge idea because like you said it does match their age and it's also

[00:28:11] just it balances the brightness of the song well like they didn't go too cute with it which was the right

[00:28:18] I think the right decision for sure um yeah I just also just enjoyed watching them like they're

[00:28:24] clearly just having fun now like all those little scenes were like one of them is saying really

[00:28:28] seriously in the front and the other three are just like fooling around the back or like

[00:28:32] dong-woon missing the pool ball and like laughing at himself like it's those little

[00:28:38] moments that are just super charismatic and and cute yeah to see and I enjoyed all of those little

[00:28:44] moments way more than the dancing scenes which they did a good job of the dancing scenes but

[00:28:48] they also were never like really that known for that either so what do you mean no like other

[00:29:00] than like the breath I don't know they were never like I always thought like infinite was always

[00:29:04] like way stronger dancers like shiny were way stronger dancers like they were never in that

[00:29:11] generation I don't count them as one of the best dancing groups you guys do yeah although I found

[00:29:18] about pre-picks because like the dance crew idea of like choreographing for a boy group was from

[00:29:23] because pre-picks like breath is really complicated in terms of intricacy you know like

[00:29:28] yeah I mean I understand what you're saying but also I don't it's like knowing a little bit of

[00:29:36] Spanish but not completely just enough to get the food you know like oh my god Chris I didn't

[00:29:41] knew this about you but also speaking of Beast and highlight be sure to check out our episode of

[00:29:48] Why Fiction was one of the best boy group pop songs it's on our channel um yeah we talk about

[00:29:52] their footwork which was iconic it was that alone to tell you we got suppressed what are you talking

[00:30:00] about no there's a difference between like that that's an iconic dance move yeah I don't think of them

[00:30:06] as like dancing is not what they're known for though do you know what I mean no

[00:30:13] no I don't know I I get what you mean I did it was easy what do you think um but yes

[00:30:18] so Shinies what do you feel about the video I thought you guys covered quite a lot but um I do

[00:30:23] like the balance of they still had you know the k-pop beauty shots like you know into the distance

[00:30:30] but it was like it was it was like the right amount okay it was the right oh and we're crazy

[00:30:36] we're having fun yeah I like that I love the you know there was like those shots where

[00:30:43] someone would look and it was zoom in and then pan down I like those shots it kept it kept the

[00:30:49] video moving like it didn't feel stymied and I just like how everything kind of flowed I do love the

[00:30:55] whole wacky styling wasn't really wacky but you know what I mean the whole barb-bog

[00:31:02] is it a barbershop or not I don't know but Taylor Barbershop it was like a full gentleman's club

[00:31:08] like you said it was just like all of them just like put together and look at the final though

[00:31:14] I love the contrasting of the colors they came through with the color grading

[00:31:19] I was just like I thought like a kid watching cartoons or something I was like oh I'm looking

[00:31:26] and yeah it was very performance based but I liked it it was it was was the right amount

[00:31:31] it's well my right now okay so here we are with the final right in the fire fast so here we are

[00:31:39] wanted to not talk about yeah oh whoa that's how you really feel

[00:31:45] already in the flip board all right so here we are with the final player tempest with lighthouse

[00:31:52] okay so

[00:31:54] so

[00:31:58] do you want to kick us off what do you think

[00:31:59] I will you want me to get dragged first I see how it is okay so I don't know anyone's names so

[00:32:07] everyone is called my man um so my man opened the MV uh he started singing he said sail away

[00:32:15] and I went to sail away because I was like what is this honey and the sailor says

[00:32:23] ah was giving party store sailor suits so was it even like

[00:32:28] the stuff or something it was just like

[00:32:31] it was giving party storm sorry it's like oh my gosh oh my we have a furnished we have a

[00:32:36] um we did the issue today quick what size are you again okay

[00:32:41] and then okay talking about these suits because I thought I'm going to have a nightmare about it

[00:32:47] they'll get to our favorite part they're right and they decide let's give them hats oh

[00:32:56] that's why you said this was a good idea I yeah okay yeah okay um it was performance based but

[00:33:06] I feel like again like the song he wasn't really giving me it was giving me like he wasn't

[00:33:11] giving me anything to be on his social site okay and then I didn't understand why it started raining

[00:33:21] yeah it was a stormy seas uh give them a tan but that inside the lighthouse right

[00:33:27] so what it really was said it was it was really that was definitely not a lighthouse but sure yes

[00:33:32] yes they were supposed to have been in the lighthouse creative freedom right now you're right it was

[00:33:37] raining inside when it started to rain I out loud I said girl oh no what is the reason

[00:33:48] oh my gosh but yeah I I didn't know if they were trying to tell us stop there was this story

[00:33:55] yeah but I was really I was really trying yeah they gave us sailor and then they didn't go anywhere

[00:34:01] with the seater I mean the other outfits where they're all like stowed in debility was okay

[00:34:11] okay so she's not feeling it everybody I didn't hate the video as much as you did I don't think

[00:34:18] I will agree though that the concept just wasn't fully there like I feel like if you have a song

[00:34:23] called lighthouse like it kind of writes itself like you can start off on a boat or like at least

[00:34:30] a scene on a boat or like and there had there could be scenes next to an actual lighthouse or in front

[00:34:36] of an actual lighthouse um I mean I thought that that one scene maybe that is the wrap section where

[00:34:42] just one of them and then there's like those the lighting pillars with the one light on top

[00:34:46] I mean that at least like felt like I was okay I get it like as a lot their lighthouses see I

[00:34:50] didn't get lighthouse from that because it gave down broken studio because I would just seen all

[00:34:55] this scaffolding and then lights and then I was blinded by the hat so maybe it was the hat

[00:35:02] that blighted to me I don't know but I didn't get lighthouse. You know what I'm I was actually okay

[00:35:07] with the sailor kind of thing because yeah they're called tempest the song is called lighthouse like

[00:35:13] there's the seas involved so at least there's like an attempt at a concept there because what they're

[00:35:19] wearing in the building that's not a lighthouse has nothing to do with anything it pirates

[00:35:25] doesn't have the song either no so I actually preferred the sailor outfits to the random street

[00:35:32] outfits um yeah I don't know it was fine okay hang on wait y'all wait can I say something before you

[00:35:42] before you you get into your thesis can we just bring back phenolese I feel like we needed someone

[00:35:49] to just stare out into the distance like my mommy something maybe yeah I feel like they were yearning

[00:35:58] for nothing like I don't what are you singing yeah friendship babe very tasty after friendship they

[00:36:04] do not peep the end of it or like oh brother yeah oh my gosh like that yeah no it's at this you're

[00:36:10] right bring back the female lead actually hang on hashtag bring back the female lead um

[00:36:14] um you know guys you know can I tell you I also did not mind the nautical streetwear what

[00:36:21] what would kind of help the silhouette not look so berries and cream berries and cream lord farquaad

[00:36:26] you know what I'm talking about with the socks in the short was the fact that they use cargo pants

[00:36:31] and then like designer shirts underneath it so they try to create a different silhouette I'm

[00:36:36] I'm I'm grasping asterisks but yeah they use the cargo they used the little the slipper boot

[00:36:42] looking thing like they tried to bring some type of urban style to the nautical look um

[00:36:51] the video goes more with the lyrics um the lyrics like you know feel my light feel my love when

[00:36:59] things are foggy and your and your loss I'll be the brightness in your world as opposed to like

[00:37:04] nautical nonsense so even though there are some nods to like you know I I captain like that

[00:37:10] kind of thing I think the whole idea was we were directed it um gorgeous coloring the lens

[00:37:16] flares are nice the color grading as usual on points we love that but like you were saying

[00:37:22] Shanee some of the the solo shots were a little like what's going on but I again I think it's

[00:37:29] because they were going with the lyrics of the song as opposed to like trying to create a story

[00:37:35] I will say I agree with you that second verse first of all the rap they've done better second of all

[00:37:42] I don't like how I think it's Lou takes the jacket off his shoulder to show a little skin I'm like

[00:37:48] this is not that song for it's it's the whole like trying to be like sensual I just that part

[00:37:56] threw me for a loop that's one thing I had like my biggest qualm about the video because you

[00:37:59] sit in there like you said in this broken down studio talking about some yeah girl I got you

[00:38:03] which is suspender straps and like it's just in the hat yeah now um I actually don't mind the

[00:38:10] inside indoor shot again it is giving Disney style like I don't know why we're bringing that back with

[00:38:16] the Disney Channel styling I don't know what happened I don't but we're back oh I don't mind that one

[00:38:21] but yeah I feel like for what they had like with a little bit of sets they dressed it up as

[00:38:26] much as possible like in the beginning some of it was bare and then toward the end they added

[00:38:29] more elements like literal elements like water and smoke lights so for that I commend the company

[00:38:38] for at least trying to do something but much like the song and much like uh you know uh okay

[00:38:46] we're gonna get into the the choreography later but everything's a little bit just not their best

[00:38:50] work you know so yeah sorry guys sorry fans yeah okay so what wins for you then Chantelle

[00:38:58] yeah I'm gonna go for body because I like the styling I like the video they look fine as hell

[00:39:05] that's just a chunk she's gorgeous like that's not a reason I love Chungha I'm a huge fan

[00:39:09] apparently I don't know what the names of the fans are but I like her um but yeah and I feel like

[00:39:14] overall the storytelling lack thereof storytelling whatever was more cohesive and understandable

[00:39:20] in their video and the styling was there too they had everything that I like in the video

[00:39:23] for sure and there's choreography so I mean and they're fine so

[00:39:30] okay Shunni how are you same but I feel like I'd be biased at this point but I don't know I think the

[00:39:37] only reason why I didn't pick I don't know because it was it was never going to be tempest surprise

[00:39:46] I don't know what Chungha I don't know something's like just shy of I don't yeah I don't know if it's

[00:39:51] the jarring shot of what you were saying before Chris about like the color of the grunginess and then

[00:39:58] the studio even though I liked it it seems like it could have been it could have been two separate

[00:40:04] things well like that's just me like nitpicking yeah right just nib it's a very

[00:40:11] sort gap between first and second from you right now yeah I agree with everything you both said I

[00:40:16] will also go with body damn so it's a sweep so far let's see if we stay consistent there with our

[00:40:25] third round which is about the performance and choreography so round three

[00:40:33] beanie meanie all right let's switch it up I'll go first again she's kind of known for her

[00:40:38] performance ability so my standards are very high for her and I think I think they did a good

[00:40:43] job like I'm glad you know the budget's there you know that's always like the worry you know when

[00:40:47] you go to a new place but clearly you know she's got a good team around her she's got a whole crew

[00:40:52] of background dancers with her very skilled background dancers and the choreography is awesome

[00:40:58] like it's good stage choreography like Shantel and I we talk about it all the time right like

[00:41:03] a lot of k-pop has become dance crew choreography and not just good stage choreography but this

[00:41:09] was a great example of what stage choreography can be there's nothing too crazy or technical in it

[00:41:15] it's a lot of kind of standard street style quote unquote grooves and stuff but there's good

[00:41:22] musicality and the staging dynamics are really great with the different levels with the different

[00:41:26] pictures with their interactions with the different little groups of background dancers at

[00:41:31] times and then all of them come together um so yeah I think this is a good example of just good

[00:41:37] stage choreography and I think it was effective and the little point dances is effective so yeah

[00:41:43] I think it works it all works. Kwon Pyeong-pae is what you said Chris um I also went to highlight

[00:41:49] I love the opening image when they reveal Chungha I was like oh okay come on formation yeah I like that

[00:41:56] that was that was cute and um the chore, the pointing and the mmm that I said before

[00:42:04] and then she was really I don't know if you guys because I watched a few performances I watched um

[00:42:10] when she was doing it live and when the rap bit comes on she's really feeling herself she's really

[00:42:17] I thought she was feeling herself before like because she was giving it for the whole performance

[00:42:21] but that she she really gets into it and I do like in the video I don't think she does it

[00:42:25] but the live performances little slide no she doesn't just I love that part oh my god that

[00:42:32] be so hard to do live this so I get it they pull her foot she gotta did it whatever no because she

[00:42:38] actually has to swing her head just to swing her leg around someone's head and then yeah girl no we

[00:42:44] got tired but it girl it's complicated you're right you know I noted that one as a as a standout too

[00:42:52] because it was really impressive that um Luchika shout out to them I think it was I found her name

[00:42:58] the main choreographer but Luchika has been a longtime collaborator of Chungha and I think they

[00:43:03] get her in terms of what she can do like uh when she was on hit the stage she was popping she was

[00:43:08] tutting like she's very very capable dancer um but they figured out how to give her hip hop grooves

[00:43:16] and also give her femme and I think this dance definitely showcases that because throughout it

[00:43:21] it's very performative like I'm that girl I'm going to give you what you need here's some

[00:43:25] intricacy right here I need to be serious right now here's some grooves but then home june's part

[00:43:30] come around and she's keeping up with the hip hop the actual hip hop that's happening there not like

[00:43:35] oh street jazz like no there's like isolations and like little pop moves and that she's doing

[00:43:41] um performance wise it's been interesting watching again I don't know what's going on

[00:43:46] the k-pop right now um but I hate that jellyfish top with the green pans performance

[00:43:52] because of the outfit not because she sucks um the giant vest with the huge pans like I've been

[00:43:57] talking about the performances I'm the I'm the one that goes oh the outfits always but yeah I just

[00:44:02] think certain times like that I'm like I want to see her movement but she's literally swimming

[00:44:07] in some of the clothing that she's doing this body wave that you can't see because all you see

[00:44:11] is a bubble vest rotating and I was like oh MG that is so annoying um I do like it when they

[00:44:19] style her with that sophisticated look but at that street where like a blazer with the rhinestones

[00:44:24] but then you have like the little alia tomboy situation at the bottom I feel like this is

[00:44:30] definitely the era where she's trying to refine her voice and maybe refine the style um but I

[00:44:36] like it when she leans more into traditional like imagery of Chungha sonically she doesn't have to

[00:44:41] but like just visually give someone people that's something to latch on to otherwise it's

[00:44:45] just you're getting styled like any other k-pop girl group um but yeah that not like a huge

[00:44:50] dock of points or anything like that but I just noticed that and I was getting kind of annoyed

[00:44:53] watching those performances like not being able to see her articulate movements because of the

[00:44:57] extra fru fru honor you know yeah but yeah otherwise stylist k-pop stylists just never

[00:45:04] know how to style for performance at all no they don't think about movement yeah yeah it's

[00:45:10] all rented clothes too so it's never like actually tailored to them because I have to put it back

[00:45:14] yes boy good job to her though she she beat all right so up next is highlight and you know

[00:45:25] in my notes I have there had never been one that shy away from intricate choreo

[00:45:29] and you sat there and said last night they don't do that I didn't say that I didn't say

[00:45:33] the choreo wasn't intricate I said they're not known for being like the dance like you know

[00:45:38] the dancing standard yeah brand like they just never know yeah no no it's just so funny I'm teasing

[00:45:45] but um yeah no um they don't really shy away from it and I'm glad that they don't they haven't

[00:45:49] fallen into that trap of being too athletic though like intricacy is something they've done right

[00:45:56] I think with breath they went on the floor into like some isolated leg mess but that was like

[00:46:02] the extent of their athleticism this here is just them dancing super clean arms the movements are just

[00:46:09] it's nice to kind of watch them actually perform get solo moments but then when the chorus comes around

[00:46:16] that's when they throw us all the good moves not here's a moment here's a moment here's a

[00:46:20] moment here's a moment you're still looking for more because you know like they're throwing

[00:46:22] everything in the kitchen sink at you this one was more just like here's our vocals our

[00:46:26] visuals and then here is the dance break that we're actually supposed to go off in

[00:46:33] and or just having a good time or just grooving either way but the dance break serves that purpose

[00:46:38] to kind of be like here's our moves yeah I mean they kind of get a little aggressive major air

[00:46:43] quotes in the second verse but that's just kikon just you know body rolling and doing that thing

[00:46:48] that he does it they say you know shame that's about it I appreciate the choreography simple enough

[00:46:54] to learn and fun enough to want to be learned so I appreciate it yeah I would mirror what you said

[00:47:02] I think one of the highlights were a lot of hand stuff I'm like a little bit of hand choreo what am

[00:47:08] I doing um the only thing I would say and I'm really really really really really nitpicking is

[00:47:16] sometimes when I'm watching them it feels like I can see them count still in their head

[00:47:24] yeah and sometimes it's giving yeah I'm doing the dance but I've not getting any feeling from it

[00:47:31] it's like robotic a bit sometimes it's just like okay I know it's going to be here now okay it

[00:47:38] makes it go over here now give face and this is like I just wish that they had a little bit more fun

[00:47:45] just just a little bit before they get to you know the last chorus where they're like jumping and

[00:47:50] stuff that's when they like go for it but I just wish they kind of used it throughout a bit

[00:47:56] it was an eyes uniform but that's me that's valid I think it's also hard because kikwang is just like

[00:48:02] so good annoyingly good yeah and he doesn't like hold back to like match the other three he kind of

[00:48:08] just goes for it so I don't think that helps either with that yeah well first off oh yeah sorry good

[00:48:13] no i'm gonna say the only person I could ever match him was um he's now not in the group so

[00:48:17] oh Hyun Seung yeah he's a pop a lot he was yeah he was actually yeah yeah that's true that's true

[00:48:24] but yeah so we also have to mention the live vocals because you know kpop not many people sing in

[00:48:30] lives and sing in live and doing it well yeah and highlight they sound amazing yeah like they sound so

[00:48:38] good like yosob I still think has one of the best voices in kpop ever but the others can hold it

[00:48:43] down too like we've never really talked about it we haven't done a full beast episode yet but

[00:48:46] dong woon improved so much like yeah through the years and he's he's super impressive now as well

[00:48:52] yeah um so yeah gotta shout out the live vocals but yeah I think the choreo is fun and I think it allows

[00:48:58] for them to sing live like they aren't really going full out at all like I think it is only

[00:49:03] that dance that dance break thing where they like actually like really hit it hard they're kind

[00:49:08] of going at like 75 percent kind of the whole time yeah and I think that is so that they can

[00:49:13] sing live and so that it does at least feel a little more loose and a little more fun

[00:49:18] because I think if they were trying to hit everything it just wouldn't match the song as well so I think

[00:49:21] that was just a good choice um but yeah I think this was good I I appreciated the four background

[00:49:27] dancers to add some dynamics there um I will say the studio tune performance I don't know who

[00:49:33] guys saw that they were changing themselves so seriously in that there wasn't even a smile

[00:49:38] in there like and I was like okay like this is not matching the song at all so I'm glad for

[00:49:44] the music shows they're smiling and laughing and stuff because yeah the studio tune one was bizarre

[00:49:48] yeah that was too cool I think they're really vibe of the crowd because yeah a fan charge a

[00:49:53] fan shot in that's true yeah but then so shaking their body yeah that part okay now

[00:50:01] player three tempest so we weren't huge fans of the song or the video but what did you think

[00:50:07] of the choreography and the performance gentile go for it oh shoot you know I don't have much to say

[00:50:14] um they can dance better than what they were given I'm gonna say that now um the shapes were cute

[00:50:21] in the beginning but like like I don't know what this little stirring up the pot thing was like I

[00:50:26] looked at the lyrics and it didn't make sense either um I was I was trying so hard I if they

[00:50:32] could have like a little you know little shit or something I don't I don't know choreograph

[00:50:37] but it wasn't Weed and Boys like they did for Vroom Vroom I could tell you that much um like

[00:50:41] the nautical idea is cute I guess in terms of like the styling but then the the lyrics were

[00:50:50] very much like oh reach out to you girl be there for you they're trying to give you

[00:50:53] reaching and length and you know like contemporary meets hip hop um so it just felt like nice

[00:51:01] shapes nice gowns pretty gowns like that's what it was giving it was just it was just giving

[00:51:07] beautiful gowns lovely dresses it was that and like you know what really bothers me I'm surprised

[00:51:13] like there's no lift in this dance like for the whole lighthouse imagery I would have once

[00:51:18] full on choreography and lifted and then dropped the person and spread them out lift listen as

[00:51:26] someone who was choreographed for a lot of people and currently for 17 people there's a lift

[00:51:30] in my dance if the song is called lighthouse or anything to do with the dang sky oh yeah you're

[00:51:35] getting tossed but there was no there's no level of that and I'm like dang I wonder what would have

[00:51:41] happened if they would have had even like a little high stylized choreography this is the one time

[00:51:46] I would have been like okay maybe we do need somebody to throw themselves on the floor like

[00:51:50] get lifted I just needed some level where someone's foot were not on the ground

[00:51:53] and it didn't happen for me um but it was okay I just I just feel like there's more

[00:51:57] risks that could have been taken but by is by the book choreography is it satisfactory in terms of

[00:52:02] movement yeah does it give people a chance to sign yeah the point dance I don't know what it is I guess

[00:52:07] these little monkey arm thingies I don't oh oh that's right the the like hand come in the eye

[00:52:15] okay see I forgot that even happened because I was just trying to look for something to latch

[00:52:19] on to and I could not it was by the time that came around I was too late um but yeah no they

[00:52:24] they are good performers and I feel like this song and everything else we've been talking about

[00:52:29] just doesn't display that and tempest fans you can call for us if you want but at the end of the day

[00:52:34] are we wrong have they had better and I think the answer is yes so I'll leave it at that

[00:52:42] I would actually like to know how this has done like how has it done compared to other

[00:52:47] tempest songs yeah again I think none of us just know enough about them to even really gauge

[00:52:53] that I'm curious what the fans think of this song so let us know in the comments uh but yeah so for me

[00:52:59] after watching the last two performances especially this choreo just looks so extra like they are

[00:53:05] going hard this one is cardio for sure um I don't mind the like hand choreography I forgot

[00:53:15] kind of representing the lights that happens quite a lot like that happens in the course and

[00:53:18] also happens in the verse and yeah also the like kind of circle going around as well so at least

[00:53:24] they tried with the concept I understand what you mean in that if you're if you have such

[00:53:29] like a title that has an image so associated with it already like just play off of that and

[00:53:34] just go for it which is what I thought for the music video as well um but yeah I mean it's fine

[00:53:41] again it's just like really typical of what all these boy groups are doing now it's like crazy

[00:53:47] cardio with extreme grooves except they don't actually feel it they're just like yeah you know

[00:53:54] they're hitting it without actually feeling anything yeah yeah yeah yeah I thought about

[00:54:01] their realm it's like they were going through the motion of it all but I don't know I thought

[00:54:06] I enjoyed their live performances more than the footage really okay yeah I don't know I

[00:54:11] feel like I could I can see more okay I can't get it

[00:54:18] and I kind of like the little lighthouse thing I was like that's cute and the little bridge section

[00:54:25] yeah I thought it was cute but again

[00:54:31] oh you know what listen y'all it didn't want to it didn't make you want to explore more

[00:54:36] yeah it's just like okay yeah right they they definitely try as you guys mentioned

[00:54:41] that they did have a lot of like searching for you light thingy so I'll give that to them yeah

[00:54:44] okay yeah that's valid um so tempest fans we're not we don't hate them we just dislike what the

[00:54:51] creative team is doing with them and make that very clear um yes but be nice closing that out

[00:54:59] um Chris or Shanice who would do I went first last time right so yeah I guess Shanice will

[00:55:05] go first then yes yeah please this performance I'm gonna give it to Chunga this time actually

[00:55:13] I agree I'm gonna give it to Chunga she has the texture she has a technique and she's she's she

[00:55:19] has a voice on whatever stage less than sing live so yeah yeah Dave we're on the same page this time

[00:55:24] because I also was going to go with Chunga because I tend to go like if there's one I want to

[00:55:28] learn the most and that one definitely is it yeah my entire in suits I want to teach that choreography

[00:55:35] there's a circle choreo choreography in the second pre-wors pre hook that got me and I was like oh yeah

[00:55:40] I know this is gonna be my pick I didn't have to watch any anymore I was like I wish I made that up

[00:55:49] okay so now time for the overall winner again I am kind of biased but I have to give it to

[00:55:55] highlight I'm just excited that they're back I think the song is really fun it does feel like an

[00:56:00] elevated like beautiful night or like kind of the cuter stuff that they've done in the past

[00:56:05] and they sound really good so yeah if I had to listen to another one right now or listen to one

[00:56:09] of these songs again right now it would be that one your body's still in there body is the

[00:56:13] winner for me I try to get it out my head but I keep saying hey goodbye hey goodbye hey you

[00:56:19] but yeah no I think that one stuck in my head any means right there though it's just

[00:56:24] I think it depends on my mood yeah yes highlight for me baby um I think I think I'm biased but I think

[00:56:36] that the that what pushed me over the edge is the song captured me first whereas I feel like

[00:56:43] any meaning when I had to okay we're going okay okay so yeah that's what made them win for me

[00:56:52] yeah valid valid oof well listen cctv crew and everybody in between let us know what wins each

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