Discussion: Beyoncé's Renaissance Tour Experience & Film Review

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[00:00:04] That's Chris. That's Jan.

[00:00:06] And welcome to CCTV, the nonstop pop show.

[00:00:09] And we will be discussing our experiences at Beyonce's Renaissance tour and, of course, the film.

[00:00:17] Welcome to CCTV.

[00:00:19] Here, Chris and I have the inside scoop with extensive experience performing on stage and working at record labels.

[00:01:22] one I've been labeled a Beyonce hater, which is hysterical.

[00:01:26] But yes, you got to hear it from a haters perspective. Oh, I'm a fan of stuff.

[00:01:31] All jokes aside, though.

[00:01:32] Thank you to Miss Natalia for posting us and all the love we've been receiving

[00:01:36] on our comments, especially you Chris.

[00:01:38] I was like, you'll make it points.

[00:01:40] Let him cook.

[00:01:41] Let him cook.

[00:01:42] So yes, we're at the hop right into the whole experience about

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[00:01:46] Rather, science and such.

[00:01:47] So yeah, let's know about how this work. So I got to be established. Yeah. Now I realize. Yeah. So Chintel and I actually we both went to different stops on the tour. So I actually had very different experiences. So let's talk about where. Let's talk about those. So for me, I went kind of right in the middle of the US leg of the tour.

[00:04:02] cheaper by like tenfold. So there were so many people I know that were flying to Sweden,

[00:04:05] flying to other parts of Europe, the UK,

[00:04:08] because the flight and the ticket was cheaper than just the ticket in US.

[00:04:13] So yes, ticket prices are a mess.

[00:04:20] But we both got tickets, which is good.

[00:04:23] I am really glad that I went to Minneapolis actually because laying down with a little stars on her boobies. But that's inside of the album, which I bought, which is still playing in my car to this day. Um, we had I went to the Kansas location, which was a like a relocation from like New Orleans, right? No, I was like, I don't know. Yeah, I think they had a reschedule. I didn't

[00:05:40] know they like moved the cities

[00:05:41] around. Okay. If I'm not

[00:05:42] mistaken, it was no islands. I

[00:05:43] could be wrong. But either way,

[00:05:44] it was a reschedule. And it was

[00:05:46] a last tour date. Um, that one out of your freaking place. So we all get there. And because the traffic so backed up because people are going to this concert, a lot of people, a lot of fans, all you could see, we're just walking disco balls on the side of the highway to walk down because we're all thinking the show starts at eight. We don't want to be late. So many of us were walking that it was just giving like, we were all trying to immigrate to the disco to the Renaissance

[00:07:03] town. You know what I'm saying? Renaissance city the venue sound system. OK, well, let's talk. OK, what's the best way to do this? Well, let's talk about broadly first. Have you seen Beyonce before? And oh, yeah. Let's ask that first. Have you seen Beyonce before? Yes. OK, where? When? OK, so prior to the Renaissance, I saw Beyonce

[00:08:22] during formation, and that was it because I was too young to go see her by myself.

[00:08:26] And I was I was not going to lie. But now that she's gotten a little bit older and she doesn't have much to prove, essentially, it comes across as so much more smoother as like, uh, like legendary, if you will, you know, I'm saying like where Mike used to need doing all these crazy robot moves with the Jackson's and then eventually he would dangerous to her come up. He just stands there for like what?

[00:09:41] Five minutes. Yeah, that's the kind of effect that she's talked about it. Yeah. So I've seen the first time I saw her was for the Beyonce experience. Well, in 2007, it was right after my SAT is. Cool. And then I saw her again on the Mrs. Carter tour, the first round before the self title came out.

[00:11:03] So set was changed halfway through that short.

[00:11:04] But yes.

[00:11:06] So yeah, I was very, very excited to see her for this one.

[00:12:01] just kind of move up and down to it. She doesn't have to be like running around

[00:12:04] and doing all the stuff like she used to.

[00:12:06] Yeah, exactly.

[00:12:08] And I will say vocally, maybe the best she's ever sounded.

[00:12:13] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:12:14] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:12:15] I think so too.

[00:12:15] I think that she's like, it's interesting

[00:12:18] because she needs to be a lot in her nose

[00:12:19] when she's just saying, which is normal

[00:12:21] if you're trying to hit like higher notes at some point.

[00:12:24] But she's to be really up in there.

[00:12:25] Now she's like, piggy to half step down. and stuff and all that extraness and the water. I would say formation was actually more epic in that way. If you're going kind of from that angle, I think formation was more. The staging for this was actually like relatively, I don't wanna say simple because it wasn't. But like the stage itself was actually relatively simple,

[00:13:42] right?

[00:13:43] It was basically an inverted disco ball

[00:13:46] or like you were inside the venue, but like, we could tell, so it didn't block us, but because the way the ring was,

[00:15:00] there was a part of it that goes up,

[00:15:02] like there's, it goes raised.

[00:15:04] And there were people that were sitting right there

[00:15:06] and I was like, oh, that sucks.

[00:15:07] Like if you're right there, where she just is holding the camera or the camera's right in front of her and the whole thing is being projected. She is being projected. Pretty much the entire time. Yeah. And that was great because absolutely that sucks when there's like all this cool stuff on the screen, but you can't actually see them, you know, which happens in most stadium shows,

[00:16:20] I would say. Even in smaller shows, we'll have like this random stock image of something that

[00:16:24] pertains to the song. And then look, I can't see this person's situation. I didn't know that. Amazing. Yeah, the ballot section is her opening for herself. I didn't realize until you told me what it was. Like, I was like, what? I could like watch anything. Remember I was talking to you here about the dragging. She timed it perfectly at our show. I don't know if she did this at every show, but it literally was like, as the

[00:17:40] sun was going down is when she started the opening act.

[00:17:43] So that the second she, the real show, quote unquote, started.

[00:17:48] Yeah. And so that opening kind of gave her that opportunity to do it. Like, hi, I think you bring on me to the party. Yes. And really just kind of like soak in the atmosphere. Yeah. And then also sing her butt off. And then be like, OK, I really have nothing to prove now. Like now the show.

[00:19:00] Absolutely.

[00:19:00] She's like, listen, y'all got these live vocals.

[00:19:02] If I decide to pull up an MP3 in that sing for the rest of the show,

[00:19:06] you're welcome.

[00:19:07] Which she didn't understand it.

[00:20:22] And that's just my own I am here for you. The art is not just like, it's a check. You can tell because she's like looking at me as like this chemistry there. And I think throughout the show, we see that and it's so nice. Because I think she like,

[00:23:00] that got rid of, but she kind of cleaned house she made from the back catalog? Oh, no, she did such a good job. Cause the thing is, like, I think from people, I also saw like commentary about like, how can she do any of their songs from this holiday album? I'm like, honey, she went on tour for those. If you missed a tour, you missed it. This is the Renaissance.

[00:23:01] Exactly.

[00:23:02] Hello.

[00:23:08] I think what's always impressed me about not I think she really did an award. No, she right. And so that was the one that everyone I think was a little disappointed about. At least just give us a chorus. But yeah, continue. Sorry. No, no, this okay, but just so right because I'm thinking about it, I have that DVD. I wore

[00:24:21] that baby out. Okay. Oh, yeah's rather dai-young. The rather dai-young love on top moment. I think people were confused, but rather dai-young. I actually loved that song. And Beyonce, I think, was like, Oh, I love this song from this album. But yeah, that was the only one that I saw people kind of being like, what that?

[00:25:40] And then I think before I let go as well, people were kind of like.

[00:25:44] That's random, but she didn't perform that before.

[00:25:46] It's not.

[00:25:46] Yeah.

[00:25:47] It's from the formation at the end of the movie.

[00:26:46] She's she's she's smart for putting it in there. Um, oh also shout out to cuz she doesn't have that was it the divas the mamas

[00:26:49] It's not the mamas anymore. Yeah, it wasn't the mamas It was a set of new girls that she named wasn't it the honey's the I think the honey's right the honey's or something

[00:26:56] Yeah, the honey's the honey's or they were doing what they had to do

[00:26:59] I mean we'll talk about this a little bit later, but yeah, I mean just hearing them singing with her and

[00:27:05] It wasn't a lot of backtrack

[00:28:01] doing that. Where's even? I was like, where's the costume

[00:28:01] chain girl? I didn't realize

[00:28:03] that that was the gag. Like

[00:28:04] the gag is I'm not doing that

[00:28:05] like I'm here to perform.

[00:28:07] Beyonce did the opposite where

[00:28:09] she's always changed her

[00:28:10] costumes, but they've always

[00:28:12] been kind of the same or like

[00:28:14] maybe a different color. This

[00:28:16] one was like, I'm pulling from

[00:28:17] this person, that person, that

[00:28:18] person, this person, that person

[00:28:21] and not only is it really cool

[00:28:24] that she has that access to

[00:28:25] those kinds of like designers

[00:28:26] she has that pull, it was all over everything. And she would post a picture on her Instagram of the special costume of that night. And so it kept everyone talking because even since the last stop, people were still excited to see what she was going to wear.

[00:29:43] And then it made the movie really fun too because like Honekone. I have the Iris van Hart Herpen jellyfish s kind of costume. It was in her Amsterdam stop. That one was probably one of the most like Futuristic kind of queen like coming down from the mothership kind of costume that one I want to eat down There was another like bluer gons. I want to um, but yeah the Mughler design like be costume. Yes, that is hysterical

[00:31:06] I loved it. I was like, knife, could it just happen? Like what a year ago? Like not even like within this year? So yeah, those are my like kind of top pick. Some of them like overlap with yours obviously, but like. Nice. I think it's cool. All right, so general concept of the show. What do you think of just kind of the overall kind of

[00:32:22] theme and everything?

[00:32:22] You want like 10 hat version or?

[00:32:23] Yeah.

[00:32:24] Yeah.

[00:32:25] So if you're new to the show, I'm usually in the one that's like,

[00:32:27] I think I got of the chrome shots,

[00:33:40] just reminded me of her when she was a B-day,

[00:33:43] it reminded me of Lou glare, but one of the stronger ones I was like, oh, yeah, I like it's solid. Definitely solid. But yeah, just adding to the whole concept was the dancers. Like you said, the whole having the alphabet kids there. It matters. I mean, like, I guess this new world isn't just for them, but

[00:35:03] those are the people who are, I don that was the point. You can't force them into one set thing.

[00:36:22] Yeah.

[00:36:23] And I think that's what I got from like watching a lot

[00:36:26] of the dancers and watching a lot of the movement

[00:36:27] because I was looking at some of that, seeing the technique, that little cipher that they had introducing all the dancers. I'm not sure what kind of dancers you got for years. So, but I got honey. Um, yeah, we got honey as well. Yeah. And it goes all the time. I feel like, but, uh, we got different ones. We didn't get, we didn't get a lead to now.

[00:37:43] We got like, you know, cause each show was like, they were calling out different days.

[00:37:43] I don't know how they, yeah.

[00:37:44] I don't know how they figured that out, but yeah.

[00:37:46] Yeah.

[00:37:47] Yeah.

[00:37:47] I agree with you. And yeah, I think you would have mentioned probably has done every tour true before whatever read I guess after all this craziness has been coming out like after the kudos during the pandemic everyone's getting there They get in there their butts dragged on the internet like you're this your trash Like we're still fighting things out about our media moguls and our music moguls now You know saying so I guess what she did that it was like go ahead Queen B you

[00:39:03] Make sure you start everybody

[00:39:05] But it was nice to kind of

[00:40:03] that you were given these moments, I think it just made it a bit more special. Um, yeah, all the arrangements and stuff were, were great.

[00:40:07] Oh, there is one thing, not one thing, a couple of things that I did hear about during my

[00:40:15] like Beyonce blockage.

[00:40:17] It was several things that were happening during the concert, like special appearances,

[00:40:21] special challenges, blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera.

[00:40:24] How did the mute challenge fair for you? It's you know, I think people are like, why are you guys taking it so seriously? It's one of those things when you play a game. You don't want to go to the game. It's just a game. Yeah, it's just a game Yeah, the people who weren't doing it are just being Beep holes Bean pole people the beep. Oh beep. Oh be pulled Yeah, so I'm gonna say bean poles for now, but yeah

[00:41:42] Well, I think I'm not just for no reason like they're just learning it for everyone for no reason

[00:41:47] Yeah, they're just people I'm shifting gears a bit. I'm sorry. I'm shifting. 11. 11. Okay. Either way, she's not old enough for all the criticism. Granny, people have been criticizing this little girl from birth, which is very strange all in itself, but it's a different show. Um, but all that crap aside, I do appreciate her going out there in front of all those

[00:43:05] people.

[00:43:06] I remember seeing a clip of it you know, from watching the documentary and stuff, seeing that she was the one who like really wanted to do it, and pushed through it, I think

[00:44:20] that was good. Because you know, there was also people questioning like, oh, of course, like,

[00:44:24] why she putting her dog up there. She's positioning her. She's like,

[00:45:23] I'll wait till it comes out on demand or whatever they're doing.

[00:45:27] But yes, so yes, she did release the film worldwide.

[00:45:31] It did feature footage from across the whole tour, which I love. I think everyone knew it was going to be like that after how she did homecoming, right?

[00:45:35] Thank God.

[00:45:36] Because it was kind of interesting to see like what shows, what costs her she chose, which shows she chose.

[00:45:42] And then of course, then with the film, at least the film version, it was not the whole show.

[00:45:46] There were some songs that were cut out.

[00:46:41] Kept the laments really going. It kept the focus on the album itself.

[00:46:43] Yeah.

[00:46:44] Uh, yeah.

[00:46:45] What do you think of like the concert footage?

[00:46:47] Portion of it.

[00:46:48] It was cool.

[00:46:49] Um, it was cool to watch that.

[00:46:51] Um, I think we, we, we, you know, I've watched the fair share of documentary,

[00:46:55] like, you know, I mean, if you guys see the truth or dare with Madonna, that one was good.

[00:46:58] That one was really good.

[00:46:59] Oh, for its time, it did what it needed to do.

[00:47:02] Um, well, other documentary I was seeing, like you just, you just watched music

[00:47:05] documentaries and it was cute.

[00:47:06] Whatever I get. this one's not there. Like, you know, and Ed didn't care because I went to the show. Yeah. And I think it did a good job of explaining everything to people who were just like haters or just didn't understand it because they're just like, I just love the music, but they didn't get the artistry behind it. So I think it did a good job of displaying artistry. Yeah. Yeah. I will say the only thing that I got distracted by

[00:48:21] because I also tend to notice more and more of the sound

[00:48:23] of things.

[00:48:24] Oh, but like she did use album vocals for some moments

[00:48:28] or songs.

[00:48:29] Oh, okay. that she could probably kill it live. Like I'm sure it's more just more like consistency purposes. Yes. But anyway, just FYI people. She's not a God. She's still human. Yeah. And I think people I think people take that as like you're attacking. No one says she couldn't say. No, saying that factually speaking there was a little bit of technical help, which is fine.

[00:49:42] It happened.

[00:49:43] Oh, yeah.

[00:49:43] Every time every show any kind of show Ariana Grande does it for her show sometimes, too.

[00:49:48] It is hard to sing like that.

[00:50:46] Is it nice to kind of see her not do it? Absolutely. She most of the time she doesn't but like I said that opening hack

[00:50:51] Was your I can sing that leave me the F alone so like yes

[00:50:53] We I think Having her talk about like the behind the scenes of what goes into being a human her

[00:50:58] Helps, but she's always kind of had that like in in and let's think it was the Beyonce experience

[00:51:03] She's crying like oh my god

[00:51:04] Why did I get me these these kids those things, like instead of being like, hey, maybe she might actually be hurt, or hey, she's 40, even if she wasn't hurt, she's 40-something's been doing it since she's like a kid. If she decides to just walk and talk

[00:52:21] and actually give you vocals, what's the big deal?

[00:52:24] She's not dropping it like she usually does.

[00:52:27] Okay. saying. Yeah, no, I agree. I think humanizing her was important, especially because she doesn't really do interviews and stuff anymore. So like, I mean, it's her chance to just kind of say her piece as well, which is good. I enjoyed her. I appreciated her also just shouting out the crew, like the technical aspect of the show and what and how like the most expensive

[00:53:43] part of the show is like the stage itself could to see if they could get what she wants, not just like fully just distance it. I found that very interesting. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. I was not getting paid. I don't know why he was just like, I don't feel like, I don't know. I don't, I will never understand that logic. But like I said, it's happened to me and I was sitting and be like, okay, um, I think

[00:55:02] maybe it's one of those things where it's like, um, his person is not from my field. just do what you can. Like I'm sure I'm sure he was fine. That man. He was doing what he could. Yeah. I also in addition to blue IVs dance moment, I loved her interrupting the whole set list conversation. I thought it was hilarious. Was this a kid being a kid? You know, so normal, but it wasn't like a rude way.

[00:56:23] You know, like some people would try to like, oh, she's so that's what kids do. You know, it was just like cute.

[00:56:25] Yeah.

[00:56:26] Yeah.

[00:56:26] I don't think anyone really took it that way.

[00:56:28] Yeah. or her kids aren't like, yeah, totally. Totally. So they mystified blue as well, because people don't know that little girl still. And they shouldn't really. They should not. But they shouldn't make assumptions like she's going to be like this Nepo baby. She doesn't deserve to be happy. Totally. Totally. So yeah, appreciate that. And yeah, I guess the other highlights, I appreciated obviously everything about Uncle

[00:57:41] Johnny and of course Kevin Prataji from like adopted now as women and adopted into the lexicon as yes and queen and you know eight down and all the other crap like that you know so it's it's it wasn't too preachy that's what I appreciate because I think whoa when it passed like three years a lot of media has become very much like we're gonna stand up for this group that did not

[00:59:01] ask us to do this and she wasn't standing up for anyone she was just like here's her story

[01:00:05] that they got together and they're able to kind of like rebuild because anything's possible, you know?

[01:00:14] And then I'm not no offense to uncle Matthew, but he's out the picture essentially so there'll be not so

[01:00:16] He's not though. I think he owns the trademark

[01:00:20] Okay, all right, but like in terms of like managing

[01:00:26] Yeah, hopefully yeah, not gonna be like well y'all can't sing that song

[01:00:29] Like we're all grown as women just the concert itself, because then we don't, we didn't really get to CB interludes and stuff like that, which I would like to. Oh my God, yes. I was thinking I was a word. Especially if we don't have visuals, right? Especially if these are the visuals, then I want this full on the couch. Yeah, two of hers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I agree. Oh, yeah, that led. Yeah, yeah. There have been random rumors about South American dates

[01:01:42] being done, which I feel like would be odd to announce now,

[01:01:45] so I don't think that's happening.

[01:01:46] That's right.

[01:01:47] But otherwise, yeah, act two.

[01:01:48] Yeah, what are like, I don't really dig in that. If she comes out with another act too, and it has a very black love centric thing, some people might be turned off. I'm, you know what I'm saying? Like, for some people to country, they might be like, oh my God.

[01:03:00] So it's one of those things where it's like,

[01:03:01] she may not have anything to prove, but.

[01:03:04] She's still one success.

[01:03:05] Yeah. Exactly.

[01:03:06] I, Sean, come on.

[01:03:07] Yeah, yeah.

[01:03:08] Who doesn't? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, this has to be setting up, like, the whole, all the DC five stuff, it's been like in a while. It's like the 25th anniversary, right? Come on, dude. Like that's next year. So maybe act two is to be a huge guy. Go out, be out of fact. Please listen to two humble broadcast jockeys. I believe. Yeah. But yes, I'm excited for it.

[01:04:20] We'll see what happens.

[01:04:22] That brings us to the end of our, I guess, not even our review.

[01:04:25] What would we call this?