Who's the next girl group to take over the music industry? Join Chris and Chantel Nicole as we explore FLO, the rising all-girl band making waves with their addictive and nostalgic RnB music. We'll delve into what sets FLO apart from other girl groups and why they could be leading the next generation of girl groups. Don't miss out on this must-listen discussion!

• Who is FLO?
• The Music and Sound
• The Look
• Current Music Trends
• Performance Skills
• How does FLO compare to other new girl groups?
• Predictions and Looking Forward

What do you think of FLO? Any other new girl groups we should take note of?

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yes so in our Little Mix Pop 101 episode where we went through their whole career in discography we were worried that the West didn't have a new girl group to take the crown after Little Mix took a hiatus but luckily flow was right there and waiting in the wings yeah yeah for sure I'm crying it's nice it's nice to give these wings to these girls because honey we have a lot to say about them yes um I think from the start when we heard Cardboard Box we were already like wait there's potential so yeah it's been very exciting year almost a year now we're reporting this at the start of 2023 and we do think this is the year of FLO if they by the end of this year don't have an album out I'm going to lose my mind I think a lot of fans are going to lose their collection an album and multiple Awards I'm sure they've already won a bunch so as they should I mean I feel like they're industry like they're like they're seniors in the industry I really like like RAYE likes them I think Pink Panther's brought them on to do like a session with them uh with her excuse me so I think a lot of people are really taking note of who they are and respecting what they're doing because they're showing respect to the older gen you know I'm saying so yeah there's a little bit of a like symbiotic kind of relationship where they need to respect the older ones but the old ones can see it they respect them so they respect the girls because they actually have talent it's really interesting to kind of see how it's happening um you know with Gen Z he's gonna naturally like the the fresh kind of girl group but like being Millennial aged peoples it's nice to like hear stuff because our contemporary RnB artists don't do this yes so yeah we're going to go into some of just the background what the flow has done so far in their year of career and then we're just going to talk a bit about their musical style and what stands out for us um and why they're different from other girl groups that are also coming out right now yeah let's hop right into it

in March of 2022 FLO released their debut single Cardboard Box and there was an immediate buzz we actually had a comment on one of our episodes around the time to check them out which is crazy so shout out to that um fan which is like left that comment um and we also had a lot of Industry friends shouting them out um but the group had been preparing for years before that and they were actually formed in 2019 right before vidco we love that right so we had members Jorja Stella and Renee who were recruited by their manager Rob Harrison through blind auditions but the girls actually knew or knew of each other before that yes so Renee and Stella had attended the coveted Sylvia young theater school together in the UK which has alumni including Amy Winehouse Natalie Nicole and Melanie from All Saints Emma from the Spice Girls and Leona Lewis just to name a few so that's already a great start there's talent coming out of that school yeah and they actually knew of Georgia from social media already as she had actually won a reality show in the UK and she was kind of creating her own buzz on social media as well so that's kind of awesome they kind of all came together in this blind audition and at least kind of knew of each other if not even went to school together um so that already kind of gave them a slight head start right yeah yes it helps it helps because we've seen some groups made on shows that don't exactly have the same kind of chemistry so yeah so this was back in 2019 so obviously they haven't they didn't release for three years so their team clearly gave them ample time to develop their chemistry work on their sound they've spoken about multiple writing camps where they've taken over full Studios and had tons of writers and renowned producers come in and just kind of figure their songs out and they've actually said in interviews that they have more than 20 even 40 songs that have come out of some of these sessions so hopefully we get to hear a lot of those um and with a record deal signed with Island records which is part of Universal Cardboard Box which was produced by MNEK was an instant hit and quickly spread through viral social media and exciting pop and RnB fans around the world so since then as a recording this video at the start of 2023 as we mentioned has been a great year the group has released an EP called the lead which is interesting a few more singles and have Festival slots and even a headline American tour to embark on which we're also going to yes we are but let's discuss is Flo the next huge girl group alright so let's first talk about the music itself because they definitely have a very clear style like they only have seven songs so far that we've heard maybe eight if you include they on they're featured on that stormzy song right so if you count that that's eight um but there's a very clear sound across those already that's pretty amazing I think even if you look at little mix or um The Saturdays and stuff like yes yes there was an established sound but it did take them you know a couple singles at least to kind of get it together yeah yeah yeah um so this is amazing so Props to their team um but yes so they described themselves actually as an RnB group they do not call themselves the pop group but these songs clearly have a pop influence so r b pop is what I would say yeah um there is a clear late 90s early 2000s influence and they have drawn on many many comparisons to SWV Blaque en Vogue Destiny's Child um and of course those are all black women girl groups but like flow are but honestly they've had comparisons to Little Mix and Sugababes and kind of everyone across the board so um I mean those are great names to even be associated with so that's a lot to say yeah you're in a class of very impressive women um the whole idea about what they do is is they knew what they wanted like I watched certain interviews with them like they knew they wanted to sound like that and I appreciate it so it's really nice and I mean like you said it definitely shows and uh you know talking about like their tracks you have any faves because like I said there's only seven songs but out of those seven songs like how do you pick which one stood out to you right yeah well let's first let's talk about Cardboard Box first off so I had read in an interview that apparently the label actually wasn't sure if it should be the first single which is very interesting I can understand that yeah um but out of the songs we've heard so far it's definitely one of the more instant ones um for sure I think just the name Cardboard Box is quite unique so I think that already kind of piques some interest um but I'm curious what the label maybe would have wanted instead maybe it's a song we haven't heard yet too maybe yeah oh maybe oh yeah but I I think it's just such smart writing first off props MNEK it's really interesting because the Sugababes Lost Tapes album just came out right yeah he had actually done that 10 years ago yeah so then and of course it did just come out but yeah it's kind of interesting hearing his progression because it was kind of actually the sugar babies first before he did Little Mix yeah and then now on to flow and he didn't just do cardboard box he did multiple songs that we've heard so far right um so just as a producer he's he's grown so much it's kind of amazing it is it is so so skill um but yeah you know from the very start you know I got a confession yeah it's like so what's the confession you know like it's such smart writing um and the yeah the chorus is just insanely catchy but yeah what do you think of the song because I think I mean we talked about it when we first heard it you know I got I saw the recommendation and the comments and I looked it up and then you said something about it and I can honestly say I heard it I was like okay like I didn't pay attention to the song like oh my God I liked it in the beginning I didn't hate it either but it wasn't something that I actually paid enough attention to I can honestly say that and I think it's because I looked at how young they were and I'm like I really don't feel like like hearing another like you know tracked by some young girls no offense but like a lot of music from younger artists geared are geared a certain way they're not typically sounding like a nostalgic 2000s and I don't know why I just didn't like sit through and I kind of sifted through the video and I was like oh sugar babes overload um yeah the guys I could admit that I just was not paying attention as much as I should but then I came back around and I was like hang on first of all they're really freaking pretty and they actually sound really good hang on and then I heard them on Apple music that's what brought me back around they did a "Get Out" JoJo cover so this song isn't bad like I can see why the label probably was like it's not bad it's not bad but they're probably like oh let's see what happens um because at first I'm like okay whatever but yeah the Apple Music sessions with the JoJo cover that's what brought me back and I was like wait no the song's actually good yeah for me I was like okay yeah this is cool I could get it I wasn't like listening to it all the time it was when the acoustic version came yeah that Vevo performance I believe yeah that's and I was like whoa because you know we talk about harmonies harmonies are probably my absolute favorite idea in the world when it comes to singing yeah um and they had a really great arrangement and their blend is really really good I think their voices they have very similar tones actually yeah um kind of just different enough that you can tell them apart like I think Stella does have a thinner voice compared to the other two yeah um but you know it's not this isn't a Sugababes where all three are very distinctive oh yeah yeah this or Destiny's Child like it's very much like their three of them are kind of similar and can kind of sit on top of each other very comfortably yeah um but that's what really drew me to it and then I think maybe a month or two after that is when it started going viral on TikTok yeah because of the mashup with the spin spin Back Spin back yeah there was like a mashup yeah I remember seeing that I'm like oh interesting I wonder who grabbed the whole of that and was like let's make this a trend it's always so interesting to see what goes viral on TikTok honestly that is one of those things where I'm like how do you choose songs but I mean this is a song that deserves it I mean they're a group that deserves it because there are no girl groups aside from certain girl groups uh that are like kind of defunct or on Hiatus that we can actually readily identify right now you know what I'm saying like there there are none really so I think they kind of popped out at the right time and their songs are popping yes but yeah what's one of your favorites right now um I would say uh immature when I first heard it I thought oh wow it reminds me of like Aaliyah's Material off the red album the self-titled album fans know it has a red album um like the drum patterns that bass whomping through um like it's Timbaland inspired surely but like you also hear static major and if you know his stuff you you God he was so good he was like so ahead of his time very futuristic um very dark sounding that gave Aaliyah her edge and you can hear that in this song lyrically speaking kind of bogs me incense where it's like the guys being immature because he's not trying to smash but I think they're just trying to say like hey like everything about this relationship is you're you're non-communicative the course is where it kind of just Falls by the wayside in terms of like bringing the whole thing together like people heard "Bills, Bills, Bills" they're like they're gold diggers but there's a whole verse that leads up into that that makes sense so that's kind of what it did um I like that song and I also like not my job because it feels like more than a woman and he was man enough and if I'm not mistaken the guitar sounds really similar to the latter and not my job like I hear Darkchild and I hear static major again you know so I hear both of those I hear both static and dark child and the song has like a fun Rock flair because of that guitar riff um and I like the attitude that's in it because these girls look like They Don't Take No Mess and they sound like they Don't Take No Mess and I love seeing young girls doing that instead of like oh you broke my heart like after a while I was like girl stand up for yourself and they do that yeah it feels it sounds authentic like they're not they're not trying to push the attitude at all too much in their in the way they're singing which I appreciate yeah and yeah I hear dark child all over everything I mean obviously he's a huge influence in r b anyway but I would love dark child's Rodney to come out and really produce for them because it'd be very interesting to hear what he would do with them yeah to differentiate his work from like Destiny's Child and it kind of that's interesting time yeah because clearly that is their influence but like what would he do to kind of elevate that 20 years on you know oh yeah I do have to shout out Losing You as well that's like the Ballad The Love Song ballad every good girl group needs a good ballad as well and there's been a lack of ballads you know even with cardboard box like the version that went viral is that like sped up one you know it's better versions are now like constantly over albums I am so over the sped up versions that get released because of TikTok um anyway I love a good ballad and losing you is great beautiful Melody um you get a lot of all three of them use their head voice in it so yeah it's giving emotions a little bit yeah honestly they haven't really missed yet out of the seven songs I mean just only talk about seven songs here but honestly they are all pretty good quality yeah I would say so I think that's what kind of um really helps about another team was like if we're gonna do this we gotta do it right you know like and I appreciate that because it really makes them stand out in a way but also not too much where it's just like watch out everyone you know like but I'm interested to see what would happen like in the future we're not there yet but I want to see how far they would go with the the experimentation with this group because they have you have vocals like that you can do whatever the heck you want yes they have I've seen them tease some things in the interviews you know I think they've been like yes for an RnB group but we want to get into dance you want to get into afrobeats we're going to get into kind of all these different things and they definitely can do that so yeah it'll be interesting to see how their sound expands yeah um over this time and like the fact that they're doing a headline tour off the back of seven songs we're gonna get all of them acoustic and then all of them with a band I'm in tears honestly they can pull that off that'd be amazing can you imagine like I'd be living I'd be I'd be into that I'm happy with that we're coming back with another Encore performance of the song ahead of the um it's just you know the healthy acoustic version no it's the rock version now it's the remix

oh yeah speaking of what you were saying about them like expanding upon their sound I really wonder if they're going to keep the image that they have now uh yes I know you have a lot of thoughts on their image we watched a lot of their performances and stuff together and you had some thoughts on their styling so what's your what are you thinking you know when I look at them I feel like they're definitely like meant to appeal to like gen z i gay like gen Z is dressing like Millennials back in 2000 like that's supposed to be real here you guys are dressing like how like my older sister would dress you know I say you guys but yeah gen Z is like dressing up like my sister would dress which is not a bad thing but that was like Rainbow shops too cute going to the club and then having the photographer put your photo up on the website for you to use on MySpace later like that's the way they're dressed and there's there's also like this riding on the wall like DC energy coming from the leather pants the little halter tops like you know what I'm saying like the the midriff and then there's also elements of like you know apocalyptic Chic but mixed in with the Silhouettes that are very much uh Y2K MC bling kind of style um but you know my thing is it's like there's nothing wrong with the leathers and the prints and the outfits like that but then sometimes it's Hit or Miss because then you'll have styling at like like the mobile Awards why was Georgia marrying a bodysuit and Panda dunks the Nike Dunks I will never she looks so good like neck herp chips she looks amazing they could have put like a little like corset belt on her to kind of yeah not to snatch her in but just to add a little bit more than just a body suit that you got off of Amazon and then you have Stella who looks like the most um Bugaboo out of the three and then you had um right Renee who was just wearing like a sheer top with a skirt they always put her in skirts she's a great body for a skirt but it's just one of those things where I'm like okay I get what you're trying to do but either you're going to do it as cohesive as possible and go for like DC on the red carpet like Tina Knowles style in them or you actually accessorize like their outfits like this is Latino yeah right but sometimes it's just like why is she wearing Nike Dunks yeah I think for me it's funny because obvious you can tell they're trying to make them seem very relatable right yeah like nothing they're wearing looks too expensive it all looks very accessible um and it's funny because I think I saw a poster or just someone was talking about um just the start of girl groups in general more so the British ones like if you look at like Girls Aloud's first couple of singles and like the Saturdays or Little Mix their first couple singles like they look kind of rough you know so it kind of just takes some time just to kind of get the budget together get you know the right stylists together um but I think I don't hate their styling right now but it's definitely nothing notable I mean their denim look for the Vivo Discoverer thing was cute like the whole denim thing that was cute that was cohesive it fit everyone's bodies but MOBO yeah I'm not letting that go that was a mess they looked cute like like torso uh but like everything else I was like what's going on with the bottoms and the but yeah I think I think there's a way to kind of Teeter that line of doing the like I said you can go for Bugaboo styling put them don't put them in cowboy hat put them in the leather pants with the prints and the stuff like that but they look they look comfortable they look like they can't dance in what they're wearing but then you'll have them wear like bodysuits like they did in immature and it almost like doesn't like look together even though it's all black so they have to figure that part out I think but yeah aside from that I think I think also right now I think it I think the problem is you can kind of tell that it's styled like it doesn't necessarily I think I you can tell that they're trying to make them look yeah very accessible and relatable it doesn't necessarily seem authentic though oh well if they chose their outfits would they be wearing these things I don't know oh interesting you know that's what I can't do that too yeah yeah I wonder that too wow nice nice catch I think so too but you know if you are a fan of them please let us know what you think in the comments below if you made it this far be sure to like And subscribe we have a lot of fun talks like this all of the time we do I kind of want to do the same thing with new jeans oh my God yeah yeah totally I mean we did something like this for um was it boys world and we're going to talk about them a little bit as well and compared to a comparison to flow but it's interesting to see like where the attention's going and based on like what's going on with the trends and whatnot where people's Focus really shift right so I mean what speaking of new genes what have you noticed like with pop Trends now and why do you think that they're kind of like fitting in so nicely yeah well I think Little Mix leaving kind of big window open um for a new girl group to come in they were very lucky with that like the timing was really great with that because I think Us girl group lovers were searching like I think we were open our hearts were open to welcome a new girl group into the things

honestly because I think we said it like when Little Mix left I was genuinely worried you and I looked at each other yeah yeah I mean yes we have the sugar babes who have made a comeback but like we don't have like a young like you know really exciting brand new group um so I think their timing honestly was just really good but you know we talked about this on the show as well the whole late 90s early 2000s thing is just coming back all over Pop Culture not just in music Across entertainment across pop culture so I think them going for that is also very smart I am very interested in you know obviously in the interviews and stuff the three of them are like yeah we love the late 90s and early 2000s but you know they have an a r person they have management they were put together so I'm sure this was also the concept that those people were all kind of selling for as well so I think in in terms of that like the timing and everything was just really really smart with that um and yeah you know who doesn't love a great girl group you know it's been a while and like oh we should talk a little bit about that yeah I think between the US especially with the us but the US and the UK you know there's not been many and so I think even opportunity wise I think you kind of have an advantage right because if you're like casting for shows and stuff you know you want to keep your lineups diverse it's like okay now we can do a girl group you know now they have that so I think just the timing and everything was very smart oh yeah totally totally I mean interestingly enough I'm kind of I'm a little annoyed with certain um we'll get to it in a second I'll get there in a second but going back what you were saying with the trends and whatnot I mean if I think about like just what UK has been doing they had Pink Panthers RAYE Mabel Rina even like honestly the Brit pop girls have been like killing it each of the women I've named have also used retro sounds as part of their come up like they knew Rena knew back in 2019 2018 like they that's what the world was well their world was talking about how can we use old sounds and make them fresh again Pink Panthers is the youngest person on the list that I just named just now but even she's using Old School Garage sound but then adding her own kind of like Whimsy voice on top of it and it's so interesting um but yeah like in terms of girl groups we haven't really had one in years and the only one I can really identify that's an r b girl group that a lot of like black people might know was literally June's Diary I think you might know June's Diary oh yeah right definitely are they still together they are they last year was their last release it's called Maniac but it's one of those things where it's like they have the talent they're very sexy ladies yes but they watched that reality show they did too yeah so black people and Chris know because everybody acts like I'm teasing what do you think Kelly Rowland is involved in I know so I was gonna say because it's Kelly rate but no it's true though but it's true though she has a good ear she put little mix together like people people don't give her credit for that like she's not stupid like she's not she's not being honestly whatever but like she knows what she heard right but they're the only girl group a lot of like r b fans knew of in the past like what since 2016 they've been around but honestly K-pop essentially has taken it all taken over everything in terms of boy groups and girl groups like I was telling someone recently like K-pop has become like the new boy group because it's like we were missing that the last boy group I remember like really being into was like Mindless Behavior and I was like dang near 18 by the time it came out so I was like yeah I was like almost 18 when they came out and even then I was like well who else am I going to love like there's no other boy group and then you have these dancing boys dancing girls so K-pop has it but in terms of like America's lack of proper acceptance and without good English tracks I doubt there's they can't only go so far I'll say that right but you know with flow they show promise because they've created Quality Music they were they have the nostalgic sound that remind people of older r b groups so you're grabbing this past generation that complains about how much they want the old thing back and then you have these younger kids who are trying to latch onto whatever is really hot and new but also latch on to music because it's actually good so you have like all of this kind of like fire behind you and it's really interesting I'm they have a winning formula at this point I think for sure yes all right so let's take a look at their actual like performance ability as well because obviously that's very important for all pop acts but especially girl groups right yeah um I had mentioned the harmonies earlier like all the acoustic versions and things that they've done so far have been really really good um obviously some of the ones like on Vivo and stuff they're clearly a lot of post-processing that happens I think there was even one I sent you and I was like are they lip syncing to a pre-recorded live vocal or did they just process the vocal the hell afterwards and it was the latter yeah it was the ladder um and you know we they have had a few big performances you mentioned the mobo Awards yeah that one was you know for them they were very nervous you could tell they didn't sound bad but they were just clearly very nervous yeah um and so it's kind of interesting especially in this age where a lot of these pre-produced live quote unquote live performances are the ones we hear like even that cardboard box performance that I yeah or the one that I like like that's clearly a studio recording yeah you know so it's not really live live um so yes of course they can do the harmonies and there are some performances that are purely live but as they grow into performing ill that's what will really kind of turn them into Stars oh yeah totally will they pull a DC Desi fulfilled concert and just have Harmony's lipstick I'm sorry I can't laugh that's funny you know the rnb girl groups love to lip sync their choruses though you know what I get it but at the same time like come on if you have no other part luckily the line distribution in this group is actually pretty decent yes oh my God but if they had the whole thing where it's like you're the Stars says you sing um yeah I'll never be over Michelle having to still lip sync over Latoya and Latavia oh my God you know what you know you know what I have no comment I agree that is kikiing oh no um but yes I think the performance is maybe where they are maybe lacking the most for me at the moment yeah I don't feel uh a very natural stage presence just yet from the three of them I think the chemistry is there like when they kind of give each other little looks and stuff I think at least it looks like their relationship is good and I think that's definitely a big part of it but I think because we're so used to K-pop where like they are trained to hell to like be able to conform to a camera yeah you know yeah and and maybe the and flow maybe don't have that as much and so I think there's a I think like the moves and stuff they have little choreo and stuff throughout it and it always you can kind of see the brain going you kind of see them thinking like okay now I have to step here now we're about to do this like little body roll like you you can hear or feel them kind of thinking that um so it's not the most natural performance ability at the moment but I think touring will help like they haven't toured much like they haven't really been a lot of audiences yeah it's been a lot of Studio stuff and then they do the Pink Panthers um Boiler Room thing but that was like that was the size of a a TV box they open up a cardboard TV box and just like I'm a butcher okay okay but watch out but yeah um you know I I heard an interview like what makes them different and what they said was they know we know what we want to do and we love each other and I was like you know what that shows for me like what you were saying with them glancing at each other like you can see them when they're singing that they're looking at it they can feel each other you know um even when there was like slight mistakes with the MOBO you could hear that they were taking the breath at the same time okay there's nerves you kind of stop breathing but the thought was we have X amount of cows we would practice this amount I'm gonna take a breath I'll come right back in there was never like any not any there was not too many like overlapped awkward like girl you sing in your part too loud you get off my you know what I'm saying so they know what they're supposed to do it's not that they can't do it but again nerds play a part I will say that in that whole performance I think Stella was the most stable she is like the common Collective one for sure um and you can hear it she's very stable in that sense um Jorja I Jorja and Renee they were nervous yeah for sure but when you have to sing as low as Renee does sometimes and you have to breathe it's a little bit tough so after the MOBO I think they actually did Jimmy Kimmel way better way better way better and it's like they can do it it's just like they were nervous like I don't I don't know what other Stakes were involved but something was different like it just felt so much better I don't know if it was the outfit I don't know but that plays A Part as well if you're sitting there wearing Nike Dunks and you feel like maybe your outfit isn't really tight enough for secure you don't want to move too much there's a lot of things that go into what you sound like like even for me if I'm singing if I feel like my hair is going to do some crazy stuff I'll be thinking about it the whole time so there's there's so many things I probably went into it and also they're performing in front of people that they actually respect yes industry folk yeah but the industry loves them that's what's another thing too so I think that's what helps them as well um but yeah like I said I think they can fill each other's energy which is something that a lot of K-pop groups don't have right or even some American groups yes that I will not name um that don't have oh go ahead and name oh hang on I don't look like a little tap tap um but uh but yeah but yeah speaking of other girl groups in comparison with other groups like uh we had a Pop 101 Alum Boys World they just released man Trump what would you say would be the difference between boys world and flow and why people are more drawn to a FLO than a boys world yeah I think with boys world they're clearly aiming for a really young audience um and I wouldn't say the same with FLO I think FLO I think they're kind of aware that they're appealing kind of like we've been saying this whole time to us older people that Miss yeah kind of that late 90s early 2000s sound yeah while being kind of like their lyrics and stuff are relatable enough and like they're kind of cool enough that will appeal to younger people too but they're not trying to appeal to that like I think when you watch boys world it's like oh I'm watching these young teenage girls sing about their current life stage and it's like for me I may enjoy some of it but I don't relate to it like at all you know as opposed to flow where the songs are you know all those lyrics like everyone can relate to those things regardless of your age pretty much yeah and actually I would say they really do lean older you know yeah the cardboard box and stuff no teenagers are you know needing cardboard boxes could you imagine oh that's your sneaker box like get out of here but yeah I think that's the biggest difference I've seen because a lot of the newer groups that we've we've seen like even when like with Citizen Queen yes right they're kind of an American girl group that were around the past couple years as well like they were clearly aiming for a very young group styling it was always very colorful they'd have like pigtails you know it was just all of it the energy was very high school yeah yep and you don't feel that with flow so I think that really is the biggest difference that I've seen um and yeah I think just the songs themselves just feel genuine you know we mentioned earlier they're not singing too sassily they're not like pushing too hard with the attitude yeah when you listen to boys world and some of these other ones they're trying to be like girl power basically yeah yeah um but it doesn't feel authentic it feels like they just feel they just want it feels like they want to feel that way but they're like just yeah just outside right now and it's definitely actually internalized feelings um so yeah that's kind of what I feel what do you think you know I agree with you I think that is something that was really lacking and then even with K-pop I was just thinking about it maybe we should have an episode on this um there's a lot of ageism and pop in general right so I mean you think about like even though I was making jokes like oh they dress like they're wearing rainbow and Too Cute there's a lot of people who are older than me that'll be like oh my God yeah I remember too cute I remember rainbow I remember Myspace even um and because they actually put thought into it that really does matter like I like boys world don't get me wrong I really do like boys I like K-pop but after a while you got to start thinking like are your faves aging well are they is there a music aging avocado or like wine you know I'm not saying boys world is avocado I'm just saying this um there are some girl groups I'm gonna try to name any names that don't have music that I'll be like I would not want to cite that as an influence if I was a young girl with flow if I heard them I'd be like oh my God I need to find my best friends and we need to like sing you be you'll be Jorja I'll be Stella you know they make me feel like that um and it's very not difficult to do that but it's impressive when you can do it and still get people our age like you and me are always sitting there trying to figure out which Harmony we should be singing together because you know it's just fun you know we all sing around in your house or whatever and we'll both be sitting there just that's fun right they feel good um one thing about them that I will say is that they are not dancers like you said um and it's so funny because they know that they they believe what they are about and they understand what they need to work on like they made a joke about like that being really good dancers um but they said like they they lack that skill but they have confidence in their vocals like you could sit those girls down and they will hold it down very much like sugar babes they they did some you know

themselves to death but one thing you could not deny was that the harmonies were tight right and that's what's up like they don't ever have to really dance but when they do you can tell they're trying their best they're giving it their all you know what I'm saying and it feels a little unrefined like you said but I think once those nerves decrease they'll be sitting there hitting and stepping like you know you see out there Destiny's Child for those who if someone asks me who's DC is you but yeah yeah I think you're right they just feel like Universal Universal yeah for sure yes all right so what any final thoughts on their music so far in any predictions for their career okay well um it's inspiring to hear them saying like I love girl groups I've always wanted to be in a girl group like I um oh my God I love that for you I want to be in a boy group or a girl group honestly in another life I'm about to say like a coax life please oh my gosh yes I should have been a liberty X oh my god um but yeah I mean it's great to kind of hear it makes me excitable girl group revivals like maybe with the way the U.S market likes to work they might actually either try to give these girls an awesome deal or try to make a girl group that Rivals them I would love to see it but I'm not sure it's gonna work no offense for whatever reason America just can't seem to get it right which is crazy because they are making American r b music but I digress um I think like I said June's diary didn't have a clear sound really and a cohesive thing going and then Kelly kind of stepped away um and although they're amazing vocalists they don't have a great team behind them and they're also so quote unquote oh so it's just one of those things where it's like they look like what Flo is dressed as but they're almost too old and they're also making like kind of trap r b which is not the wave um I mean r b I think in terms of like what's coming back around like rap was having its peak and now like pop is I don't think like the dance 2010s pop is ready to come back just yet there's some UK artists here and they're kind of like bringing it back out and like Ava Max I guess but like we're not ready for that you know like Gaga hasn't had her baby we have we're not ready to bring that back yet but r b is coming back it really is um and if not I feel like it could come back with flow so that's mine yeah my little yeah I definitely have not been this excited about a new act in a while I definitely am one of those old people that are like barely listening to new music anymore I think doing the show forces me to listen to music yeah yeah but um I'm very never very excited about the new music Fridays and stuff like I used to be um and so I'm very very excited about flow because they really are if all those girl groups came back from that time you know it really fits in with all that like I was listening to them and then like Destiny's Child just shuffled in right afterwards and it totally sequences perfectly yeah um and you know like we mentioned there's only been seven songs so far so there is I'm really hoping that the quality stays up there because can you imagine me go to the concert and it's like they preview all these new songs are terrible you know what that's the vessel word for me I don't want them to get lost in the hit trying to make hip hop kind of saws yeah like yeah so I have faith I have belief that of course there's that little bit of fear because the worst is when something's really promising and then it just kind of dies off um how many K's on the neck we don't know yeah but you know they've like I mentioned they already won a ton of awards like in the UK like I think they won it's all those like upcoming like yes next and like all those types of things so I think in the UK they're already set like unless the music quality really dies like they're gonna I'm sure there's so many more festivals and stuff I'm sure they haven't even announced yet like I'm sure they might get Glasto like you know like I feel like in the UK they're they're set for a really big success in the US however first off I'm amazed how well that tour did because I think for me I I see them as very British and I think I've gotten scarred from just the fact that people just don't like girl groups here in the U.S and so the fact that their whole US tour is sold out yes and it went on sale what four days ago yes um that's amazing like the fact that I was so stressed to get tickets and it sold out in three minutes or whatever that's very promising I'm very curious what kind of crowd is gonna be there my god um so stay tuned because we will put up a little short or an Instagram reel or something um of us there and our experience so follow us at @CCTVPops um but yeah I'm very very curious how the US will take them yeah for sure I think like I said the US is just I don't know it's the individualism is just a rampant rampant it runs rampant out here so hopefully the fans out here will actually kind of you know give them a little bit of a stronger foundation for people to be like oh yeah let's give it a chance because I get it girl groups are expensive but honey they are worth their weight in gold and with that being said what do y'all think about flow do you think that they are I guess the world's biggest girl group do you think they are I mean well new jeans you know what that was geez that's a whole new conversation too yeah let us know if you guys would like us to do a similar discussion about new jeans because they're probably but also I mean flow and new jeans the two biggest girl groups in the world don't hate it yeah not at all I mean if there's any other new girl groups that we should be aware of please let us know if we miss them put us on it's a good one two good ones oh yes Lauren our crew on Patreon to hang out with us and suggest episode topics and please comment below or message us @CCTVPops on all social media don't forget to like 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